I thought Lack was overrated by this fanbase back then but was pretty surprised that he fell off that hard, it's rare to see a guy go from being a decent 1B type of goalie to being out of the league so quick. But his recent statement about chronic hip injuries clears that all up. Canucks definitely dodged a bullet there and it's a tough break for him.

Cory Schneider's injuries have derailed his career as well. We all talk about Canuck luck, but those were 2 cases where the Canucks definitely lucked out and sold before the ship sank.
- Nucker101

I have a tendency to look at the positive in any situation. If we would have gone with a tandem of Lack and Marky we may have had a better shot at a top three draft position.

Again, I'm just an optimist.

I have a tendency to look at the positive in any situation. If we would have gone with a tandem of Lack and Marky we may have had a better shot at a top three draft position.

Again, I'm just an optimist.
- bloatedmosquito

Disagree.

The playoff experience that Bo Horvat gained that season is invaluable. Hopefully EP, Brock and Quinn will gain some this season.

I did? When did I say that?

I asked how he improved the team. Never questioned his abilities. My question still applies... How did the team benefit from the acquisition of Miller?
- bloatedmosquito

The team would have been worse without Miller, Implying it would not have is essentially implying that he was part of the problem. You can have good players on a bad team, in fact most do.

I did? When did I say that?

I asked how he improved the team. Never questioned his abilities. My question still applies... How did the team benefit from the acquisition of Miller?
- bloatedmosquito

Some of the fellas liked pictures of his wife?

Disagree.

The playoff experience that Bo Horvat gained that season is invaluable. Hopefully EP, Brock and Quinn will gain some this season.
- Nucker101

Disagree.

The playoff experience that Bo Horvat gained that season is invaluable. Hopefully EP, Brock and Quinn will gain some this season.
- Nucker101

For sure it was, he was arguably the best Canuck in that series. Miller was also pretty solid. Not that he made the team any better... for some reason... even though they made the playoffs... and that was his worst statistical season of the three

The team would have been worse without Miller, Implying it would not have is essentially implying that he was part of the problem. You can have good players on a bad team, in fact most do.
- neem55

No, the team would have had less wins. Big difference considering what the canucks were facing.

The mentality that saw Miller as a solid signing at the time, also saw LE as a solid signing. It's an outdated approach to improving a team.

I have a tendency to look at the positive in any situation. If we would have gone with a tandem of Lack and Marky we may have had a better shot at a top three draft position.

Again, I'm just an optimist.
- bloatedmosquito

No, the team would have had less wins. Big difference considering what the canucks were facing.

The mentality that saw Miller as a solid signing at the time, also saw LE as a solid signing. It's an outdated approach to improving a team.
- bloatedmosquito

All part of Benning's well thought out long term plan.

No, the team would have had less wins. Big difference considering what the canucks were facing.

The mentality that saw Miller as a solid signing at the time, also saw LE as a solid signing. It's an outdated approach to improving a team.
- bloatedmosquito

it's not outdated at all to retool, bruins have done it well and Canucks did it very poorly. But to imply that it can't be done is just ignorant. It was a solid signing, they believed they could retool and did made the playoffs with him. He Played very well. looks bad in hindsight when you want high draft picks, but that's not what ownership wanted. I fully agree we should have just tanked, but the retool came from a greedy ownership group. Your position is essentially "shoulda, coulda, woulda" and not dealing with reality very well IMO.

No, the team would have had less wins. Big difference considering what the canucks were facing.

The mentality that saw Miller as a solid signing at the time, also saw LE as a solid signing. It's an outdated approach to improving a team.
- bloatedmosquito

The Miller signing delayed the rebuild.

it's not outdated at all to retool, bruins have done it well and Canucks did it very poorly. But to imply that it can't be done is just ignorant. It was a solid signing, they believed they could retool and did made the playoffs with him. He Played very well. looks bad in hindsight when you want high draft picks, but that's not what ownership wanted. I fully agree we should have just tanked, but the retool came from a greedy ownership group. Your position is essentially "shoulda, coulda, woulda" and not dealing with reality very well IMO.
- neem55

Sometimes a team is to stale to be retooled, didn't Tortorella make this point?

it's not outdated at all to retool, bruins have done it well and Canucks did it very poorly. But to imply that it can't be done is just ignorant. It was a solid signing, they believed they could retool and did made the playoffs with him. He Played very well. looks bad in hindsight when you want high draft picks, but that's not what ownership wanted. I fully agree we should have just tanked, but the retool came from a greedy ownership group. Your position is essentially "shoulda, coulda, woulda" and not dealing with reality very well IMO.
- neem55

What were the indicators that the team was in a position to go through a minor retool and still be playoff competitive?

Because the teams were in completely different cycles, I think using Boston as an example of what the canucks were trying to accomplish is either ignorant in their understanding or shows how incompetent this management group was/is. You pick which one.

Sometimes a team is to stale to be retooled, didn't Tortorella make this point?
- A_SteamingLombardi

FA wasnt listening.

FA wasnt listening.
- boonerbuck

Lyft is more important.

Sometimes a team is to stale to be retooled, didn't Tortorella make this point?
- A_SteamingLombardi

For sure. It failed, but that doesn't mean it always it always failed as I mentioned Boston has been able to do it very successfully.

What were the indicators that the team was in a position to go through a minor retool and still be playoff competitive?

Because the teams were in completely different cycles, I think using Boston as an example of what the canucks were trying to accomplish is either ignorant in their understanding or shows how incompetent this management group was/is. You pick which one.
- bloatedmosquito

I think using Boston as an example is just an example of the strategy succeeding when you literally just stated that the strategy is stale. You have to have the right components to make it work, they do and we didn't but you don't know that until you try and fail. It was a bad idea for the Canucks, but the strategy isn't stale or flawed in and of itself.

I have a tendency to look at the positive in any situation. If we would have gone with a tandem of Lack and Marky we may have had a better shot at a top three draft position.

Again, I'm just an optimist.
- bloatedmosquito

#teamoptimist for you then?

lol

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Jim Benning on #Canucks prospect Jack Rathbone: When I was in Boston we signed a guy that reminds me a lot of Jack, Torey Krug. He's competitive, good skater, skilled. We're going watch and follow him close this year and we'd like him to maybe turn pro after this year.

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Benning on Jack Rathbone.

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Jim Benning on #Canucks prospect Jack Rathbone: When I was in Boston we signed a guy that reminds me a lot of Jack, Torey Krug. He's competitive, good skater, skilled. We're going watch and follow him close this year and we'd like him to maybe turn pro after this year.

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Benning on Jack Rathbone.
- VANTEL

The comparison does fit him to a tee. Saw that Krug can throw his weight around for a smaller guy in the playoffs. Seen Rathbone do it as well. I think Rathbone probably has the edge in skating. Both have a heavy shot.

I believe that Jack has grown though from what I heard. 5'11" now and 190 lbs.

The comparison does fit him to a tee. Saw that Krug can throw his weight around for a smaller guy in the playoffs. Seen Rathbone do it as well. I think Rathbone probably has the edge in skating. Both have a heavy shot.

I believe that Jack has grown though from what I heard. 5'11" now and 190 lbs.
- manvanfan

I have a feeling he will be a Ranger. Sure hope I am wrong.

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Swedes didn't have a bad tournament despite losing all three games. One was a 3-on-3 OT loss, the other a 1-0 shutout. Nils Holglander (VAN) was the most consistent threat and had a couple of "wow" moments. Being a late birthday also helps his case for the WJC team.

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2) Podkolzin (VAN) was strong in all 3 zones so don't count him out for a top-3 role. Playmaking was on point; positioning timely. Wasn't asked to run PP's from half wall so he was all over the low slot/net front. Could've had a couple assists off entries but trailers shot wide.

I have a feeling he will be a Ranger. Sure hope I am wrong.
- VANTEL

He would have to go through 3 more years. He's not pulling a Fox. That kid was a douche. JB doesn't drafts douches.