Tonybere
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Location: ON Joined: 02.04.2016
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There is obviously a group think situation going on - Franson clearly deserves to be in the NHL. Maybe GMs are dumb - at least half of them are terrible at their jobs, and the rest of them get free pick of guys like Franson. - James_Tanner
Just. Wow. |
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rcerick
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: 973, NJ Joined: 08.14.2017
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Do you and Ryan Wilson inhale rocks together? |
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BestRapperAlive
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: OEL is one of the greatest players of his generation - James Tanner Joined: 06.21.2012
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There is obviously a group think situation going on - Franson clearly deserves to be in the NHL. Maybe GMs are dumb - at least half of them are terrible at their jobs, and the rest of them get free pick of guys like Franson. - James_Tanner
If half the gms are dumb and bad at their jobs, that still leaves 15 competent ones who have not signed Franson.
So either...
1. You are smarter than the 15 competent gms who somehow fail to recognize something that's clear and obvious to you
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2. He is not an NHL calibre player
I'm gonna go with 2!
It's ok to admit that you were wrong. Maybe you could even have an open mind and start to question the validity of the stats that led you to believe he's a good player. Probably not.
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There is obviously a group think situation going on - Franson clearly deserves to be in the NHL. Maybe GMs are dumb - at least half of them are terrible at their jobs, and the rest of them get free pick of guys like Franson. - James_Tanner
Yet you provided no reason why he should.
You felate all over Dubas and chAyka yet even the 2 smartest gms of all time want nothing to with him. |
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BluemanGuruu
St Louis Blues |
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Location: trustinjarmo knows nothing, MO Joined: 06.28.2007
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I don't know dude, you clearly wouldn't care either way because you've got your mind made up and you're set on being an ass.........but I think 65 points from a rookie is pretty fn good.
Also, if you spent like five minutes looking at the odds of each position in the draft becoming an NHL Player, you'd realize that teams should be swinging for the fence and taking risks, since over 80% of 5th overall and lower picks don't even make it anyways. - James_Tanner
Where do you get that info from? I'm pretty sure that information is incorrect. |
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BluemanGuruu
St Louis Blues |
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Location: trustinjarmo knows nothing, MO Joined: 06.28.2007
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Obviously I'm colouring outside the lines here, so I do expect posts like this, but you should be aware that the NBA, in terms of effect of star players, is the most similar to the NHL.
Edmonton is actually a perfect example: If they had of realized what I'm saying, they'd traded an elite player for a position they were weak at, and it turned into arguable a top five worst trade of all time. Maybe even #1 or 2/. - James_Tanner
I read a great piece recently about elite players ice time that compared it to the NBA and it's not even close. |
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If half the gms are dumb and bad at their jobs, that still leaves 15 competent ones who have not signed Franson.
So either...
1. You are smarter than the 15 competent gms who somehow fail to recognize something that's clear and obvious to you
OR
2. He is not an NHL calibre player
I'm gonna go with 2!
It's ok to admit that you were wrong. Maybe you could even have an open mind and start to question the validity of the stats that led you to believe he's a good player. Probably not. - BestRapperAlive
I think there must be some kind of unknown factor. Franson was above average last time he played in the nhl. Its more weird than anything.
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camfor
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: Complete mis-use of stats, Is now called the Jimmy "T" special. Joined: 12.08.2007
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I think there must be some kind of unknown factor. Franson was above average last time he played in the nhl. Its more weird than anything. - James_Tanner
Yep...Weird, Was exactly where i was going with this!!! |
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I think there must be some kind of unknown factor. Franson was above average last time he played in the nhl. Its more weird than anything. - James_Tanner
He was not and got sent to the minors |
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kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA Joined: 09.29.2010
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Haha... The coyotes should get an elite hockey blogger... Lols.. That's classic.. |
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kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA Joined: 09.29.2010
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To come out and say that basically all hockey players that are not elite are useless is ludicrous. Maybe the Coyotes should ban useless hockey bloggers and get themselves an elite one and maybe they will start winning. - Flybynight88
Classic |
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charlest
St Louis Blues |
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Joined: 08.18.2006
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I actually listened with an open mind and thought, maybe you're right James. But I'm having a hard time mathematically confirming your conclusion.
I'd really like to see you push this theory with the math that validates it. I can't find a searchable evaluation of WAR/GAR besides Evolving-Hockey, so that's what I'm using. My results do not line up with your theory.
If you look at GAR and WAR stats for elite players versus typical NHL players making between 2-6 million, the statistical improvement above replacement actually does not justify their contracts.
I'm beginning to think perhaps the opposite is true, that solid depth acquisitions with economical cap hits are the real difference makers. Players like Carl Gunnarson, Oskar Sundqvist, Vince Dunn, Pat Maroon, and Tyler Bozak all seem to be big economical contributors.
If you trade out those above for replacement level players and then add a big name with the savings, your team would actually go down in wins using the WAR or GAR model. You'd actually go down significantly (several wins would be lost) if you swapped those out for Kopitar. That move in and of itself would probably cause missing the playoffs. - charlest
Anyone have any thoughts on this? |
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gramps
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Location: Chandler, AZ Joined: 10.10.2006
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Anyone have any thoughts on this? - charlest
Advanced stats are lucky and shouldn't be counted.
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Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 11.30.2009
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I think there must be some kind of unknown factor. Franson was above average last time he played in the nhl. Its more weird than anything. - James_Tanner
Because the stat you love - shots attempts is way less important compared to 2 on 1’s a slow Defenceman gives up.
SA = team stat
Giving up 2 on 1’s due to being slow is on the individual.
🤷🏻♂️
I liked Franson, good shot, hit the net a lot, but terribly slow. Pretty sure you’ve noticed this since you’re a leaf fan and watched every game he played? |
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Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: The centre of the hockey universe Joined: 07.31.2006
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I think there must be some kind of unknown factor. Franson was above average last time he played in the nhl. Its more weird than anything. - James_Tanner
Unknown to you.
Known to 31 GMs.
With all your cutting edge hockey knowledge, will you be coaching your son this year in house league? |
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gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON Joined: 02.01.2016
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Unknown to you.
Known to 31 GMs.
With all your cutting edge hockey knowledge, will you be coaching your son this year in house league? - Atomic Wedgie
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gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON Joined: 02.01.2016
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The NHL has announced today that "any player not playing on the first line is garbage and will now be making league minimum." The NHLPA will not allow this and will be striking immediately.
Hockey buzz has announced that "any blogger who isn't first line quality will no longer be allowed to post any blogs no matter how much they need the $5." As a result there will no longer be any blogs to read at hockey buzz. |
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gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON Joined: 02.01.2016
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Welcome to Jimmy Tan-Tan's "Five Dollar Flavour of the Day Flip-Flop!"
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Bartacus
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 01.08.2019
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Nice shoehorning the Leafs into a Yotes blog post. Oesterle and Crouse, if they can replicate last season, are steal deals. Goli Grabner and Demers contracts aren't great, but they are a far cry from disaster deals seen elsewhere. Kopitar might be available, but you fail to mention that the Kings aren't competing like Nashville, who needed the space. You'd have to pay actual assets to get Kopitar, which negates what your post's title infers. It's nice to dream though, I suppose... |
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gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON Joined: 02.01.2016
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I think there must be some kind of unknown factor. Franson was above average last time he played in the nhl. Its more weird than anything. - James_Tanner
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Gertner
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 08.04.2017
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Remember the time James got owned by Bill Meltzer in his own blog? |
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gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON Joined: 02.01.2016
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Remember the time James got owned by Bill Meltzer in his own blog? - Gertner
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SC116
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Joined: 08.29.2015
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Wait ... I thought you were getting Patrick Kane??? Now I'm hurt.... |
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The NHL is less star dependent than any other major sport. This analysis starts off with wrong-footed hyperbole and then just gets dumb. |
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Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: avid reader of the daily douche news Joined: 03.14.2014
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Unknown to you.
Known to 31 GMs.
With all your cutting edge hockey knowledge, will you be coaching your son this year in house league? - Atomic Wedgie
No.
He's too fat to lace up his own skates and can't take a smoke break. |
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