as I indicated before - I think that has more to do with the decision on opt out of current CBA (and a potential lockout next season) than anything else.
- MaximusAurelius

I think the players know whether or not their own player association is going to opt in or out of a CBA, when the deadline is nearly 4 weeks away. How would this affect their contracts? Are they not going to sign and sit out the season and possibly have a locked out next season? I don't see the connection.

My point exactly
- RickJames77

CBA opt-out deadline in Sept - how many teams do I have to repeat this?

This is exactly what you will see. I remember those days as well. This season, as a Bruins season ticket holder, we were not given the option of paper tickets at all. They are (apparently, I haven't gotten them yet) credit card like things that you will swipe or scan to get into the game. You can still transfer tickets, but it's done similarly through a Bruins app. It seems the Bruins started going down this route before the Leafs because they stopped allowing email and printed tickets about 3 or 4 years ago IIRC. I'd expect it next year if I were you. I was disappointed - I've been working on a large collage of ticket stubs I've had since I was about 4 or 5 years old
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- RickJames77

I still have the entire set from the 2004-05 season.

I've always said that one day I will get them mounted, with a plaque that reads "The Leafs' Undefeated Season."

I think the players know whether or not their own player association is going to opt in or out of a CBA, when the deadline is nearly 4 weeks away. How would this affect their contracts? Are they not going to sign and sit out the season and possibly have a locked out next season? I don't see the connection.
- RickJames77

NHL can decide to opt out as well. I think they're up first and then 15th or 19th NHLPA.

quite sure both McAvoy and Carlo will be signing team friendly deals.
same with Connor.
Werenski, Boeser and Rantanen as well.

White just signed a team friendly deal.

Marner's deal won't be team friendly - but if you compare it with Matthews' deal, it will be ok. (cannot say that Marner 6y at 10.25 is a bad contract if Matthews at 11.36 is ok).

Laine, Provorov, Tkachuk I don't think will be on team-friendly deals.
- MaximusAurelius

Oh?

The Leafs are quickly moving towards a paperless ticketing system.

I was given the option this year ($50 RealSports incentive). But I like the actual tix - it's fun to see my daughters' friends keep them as souvenirs when we take them to games.

You used to be able to download the tix and email them - that ended a season or two ago. It has to be done through the Leafs app now.

My guess is within 2 years, there won't be any paper tickets. Will be very, very interesting to see what that does to scalpers.
- Atomic Wedgie

exactly, I have a stack of old game and concert tickets. great little souvenir

NHL can decide to opt out as well. I think they're up first and then 15th or 19th NHLPA.
- MaximusAurelius

How does this factor in to players not being signed yet, though? That was the question.

exactly, I have a stack of old game and concert tickets. great little souvenir
- senstroll

Sports team owners are such cynical bastards they have probably figured out that a souvenir ticket stub means less revenues at the souvenir stands.

I still have the entire set from the 2004-05 season.

I've always said that one day I will get them mounted, with a plaque that reads "The Leafs' Undefeated Season."
- Atomic Wedgie

I think the players know whether or not their own player association is going to opt in or out of a CBA, when the deadline is nearly 4 weeks away. How would this affect their contracts? Are they not going to sign and sit out the season and possibly have a locked out next season? I don't see the connection.
- RickJames77

If there will be a new CBA negotiated earlier, it is possible players will go for 2year deals (with a bonus loaden 2nd year) - to then negotiate a new deal when new rules are known. Or on the contrary - they might want to go for longer term deals (7-8y) since NHL owners would want to have restrictions on RFA contracts (or contract value / length?) in new CBA.
So it makes sense for players to wait until it is clear whether CBA stays in place or whether soon a new CBA - surely agents will have a good feel what could potentially change in a potential new CBA and then negotiate a new deal with that in mind.

Sports team owners are such cynical bastards they have probably figured out that a souvenir ticket stub means less revenues at the souvenir stands.
- Atomic Wedgie

I never even thought of this

Classic

You better believe it's true though. I sure as hell purchased a program for game 7 of the SCF.

Sens took a calculated gamble by giving him a bit more than he could have asked for, but on a longer deal. 6y deal at 4.75mln will turn out to be a great deal for him in my opinion - he'll be a very good #2C for Sens.

And I think that some organizations in general get better deals on their players than other teams - some teams that in general make good roster decisions are Bruins and Tampa last couple of years.

Another very good contract is Larkin with Detroit.
- MaximusAurelius

its fascinating see you talk about these deals for white and Nylander

you can swap the names and you are bang on

Oh?
- GreatGigInTheSky

White is a guy that does what Nylander is paid for : be a 2nd line C with 60-70points per season.
In addition to that though, he's quite good on the defensive side of the game and has a lot of compete in him.
His AAV is 2mln less than Nylander as well.

If there will be a new CBA negotiated earlier, it is possible players will go for 2year deals (with a bonus loaden 2nd year) - to then negotiate a new deal when new rules are known. Or on the contrary - they might want to go for longer term deals (7-8y) since NHL owners would want to have restrictions on RFA contracts (or contract value / length?) in new CBA.
So it makes sense for players to wait until it is clear whether CBA stays in place or whether soon a new CBA - surely agents will have a good feel what could potentially change in a potential new CBA and then negotiate a new deal with that in mind.
- MaximusAurelius

Then why is almost every single RFA looking for a deal in between your 2 years and 7 or 8 year contracts?

I never even thought of this

Classic

You better believe it's true though. I sure as hell purchased a program for game 7 of the SCF.


- RickJames77

I used to purchase one program every year.

I honestly don't even know if they sell them at Leafs games anymore.

its fascinating see you talk about these deals for white and Nylander

you can swap the names and you are bang on
- senstroll

i just explained below what's the difference between white and nylander (apart from the 2mln+ difference in caphit).

White is a guy that does what Nylander is paid for : be a 2nd line C with 60-70points per season.
In addition to that though, he's quite good on the defensive side of the game and has a lot of compete in him.
His AAV is 2mln less than Nylander as well.
- MaximusAurelius

But hes only played 94 nhl games and hasn't come close to 60 points...you should be a Sens fan. He doesn't have 60 points in his (frank)in nhl career.

i just explained below what's the difference between white and nylander (apart from the 2mln+ difference in caphit).
- MaximusAurelius

age 19-21 Willie has 135 points, White has 6

I cant believe the difference is only 2 mil, should be 4 or 5

Then why is almost every single RFA looking for a deal in between your 2 years and 7 or 8 year contracts?
- RickJames77

we'll see it when they sign their deals.
and by 'they' i mean marner, provorov, mcavoy, rantanen, laine, tkachuk, werenski, point, boeser.
i'm not saying by the way that their best option is 2y or 7/8 years depending on how CBA opt out discussions will turn out (i don't know the exact implications on their future contracts) - i am just saying that that potential opt-out could be a big reason for those players to not sign anything yet until it is clear whether there will be a new CBA negotiated soon or not.

age 19-21 Willie has 135 points, White has 6

I cant believe the difference is only 2 mil, should be 4 or 5
- senstroll

Willie's is just more team friendly

we'll see it when they sign their deals.
and by 'they' i mean marner, provorov, mcavoy, rantanen, laine, tkachuk, werenski, point, boeser.
i'm not saying by the way that their best option is 2y or 7/8 years depending on how CBA opt out discussions will turn out (i don't know the exact implications on their future contracts) - i am just saying that that potential opt-out could be a big reason for those players to not sign anything yet until it is clear whether there will be a new CBA negotiated soon or not.
- MaximusAurelius

Everyone stopped reading after " We'll see"

But hes only played 94 nhl games and hasn't come close to 60 points...you should be a Sens fan. He doesn't have 60 points in his (frank)in nhl career.
- bixll

after his first three seasons in NHL, Couturier didn't have 100points yet.
barkov had 60 points after his first 2 NHL seasons.
different players (playing different positions and in different team situations) develop differently - i hope you do agree that Couturier and Barkov are great NHL C's ?

Everyone stopped reading after " We'll see"
- bixll

you're such a cool guy!!

after his first three seasons in NHL, Couturier didn't have 100points yet.
barkov had 60 points after his first 2 NHL seasons.
different players (playing different positions and in different team situations) develop differently - i hope you do agree that Couturier and Barkov are great NHL C's ?
- MaximusAurelius

Again rubbing your crystal balls are you.

you're such a cool guy!!
- MaximusAurelius

You are trying convince everyone you are correct.... stop it, you gave your opinion...we get it.

And thanks.