Also the arbitrator would Laugh in Marners face when he says he should be compared to AM
- Santo_44

Agree arbitrator would probably award much less than the ask. I would avoid confusing Marner with the two stooges though (Father and agent)

Marner is the Leafs best player and should be paid as such. Don't buy the BS about how centers are worth more than play driving wingers. I hope he sticks to his guns and doesn't sign a team friendly contract that will screw him once again. Its sad how some Leaf fans have turned on Marner over a problem caused by signing Tavares and Matthews to big contracts.
- islansjet

But it's fact according to NHL salaries. LOL

Sorry but Tavares and Matthews are fine contracts, score many more goals and are CENTRES.


Sucks you lost a #1 D at age 25 and Laine and Connor won't sign, but don't be bitter about the Leafs.

I am mostly pointing to the fact he said the Leafs are fed up.
- Santo_44

they may or may not be

I prefaced my comment with “modern day NHL”. I wouldn’t classify that as modern day NHL.
- RickJames77

Erik Johnson never reached his "potential." Ekblad has been fighting them. He's on concussion...4? Clarke MacArthur had his career ended.

Do you think there was any truth to that or was he using you guys?
- RickJames77

Well I'm guessing he was at least OK with the idea of playing for the Habs since he signed the contract.

But I wouldn't bet on it being the scenario he actually wanted the most.

But it's fact according to NHL salaries. LOL

Sorry but Tavares and Matthews are fine contracts, score many more goals and are CENTRES.


Sucks you lost a #1 D at age 25 and Laine and Connor won't sign, but don't be bitter about the Leafs.
- RogerRoeper

Saying that Matthews' contract is fine is being very naive at best.
(and I personally think that Matthews will challenge McDavid for best player in NHL).
Matthews' contract is the most player friendly in whole of NHL.

But it's fact according to NHL salaries. LOL

Sorry but Tavares and Matthews are fine contracts, score many more goals and are CENTRES.


Sucks you lost a #1 D at age 25 and Laine and Connor won't sign, but don't be bitter about the Leafs.
- RogerRoeper

If I'm being totally honest, I wouldn't love Matthews' contract if my team signed a similar player to it. I'm not saying it's bad, I just wouldn't be over the moon about it. It's a lot of money, walks him to UFA, and he has shown a bit of a durability concern. I wouldn't worry too much about the latter, but it is a factor. Same with Chuggles McAvoy on our end.

Who do you take, Eichel or Marner?

Obviously with the Leafs having Matthews and Tavares, I would prefer Marner.

The point is, I would say Eichel probably holds more value for any team not from Pittsburgh, Tampa or Toronto. Marner's salary demands should be in accordance. I hope the Leafs stand firm on this.

Erik Johnson never reached his "potential." Ekblad has been fighting them. He's on concussion...4? Clarke MacArthur had his career ended.
- AdamFrench

Ekblad will do great this year.

Like anyone playing with Keith Yandle, his offensive production will rise once Yandle goes away.

I don't think he would've went anywhere near a 8 year deal for only 5M and personally, I don't find that deal more interesting. I've already stated why I like it, so I won't repeat myself.

On another note, though, which 22-26 year old's career has been ended by concussions? I really can't put my finger on one in the modern NHL. Bergy and Crosby both had them early on and they were BRUTAL. They both turned out fine in the long run and returned to greatness. No I am not saying Timo Meier is Crosby or Bergeron - I know how you fools on here operate (general statement, not you personally)
- RickJames77

How old was Savard or Lindros when their concussion issues started?

Erik Johnson never reached his "potential." Ekblad has been fighting them. He's on concussion...4? Clarke MacArthur had his career ended.
- AdamFrench

Could it be possible that Ekblad and Johnson just weren't as good as we all thought? MacArthur was also 32 when he stopped playing. I was referencing players aged 22-26.

Who do you take, Eichel or Marner?

Obviously with the Leafs having Matthews and Tavares, I would prefer Marner.

The point is, I would say Eichel probably holds more value for any team not from Pittsburgh, Tampa or Toronto. Marner's salary demands should be in accordance. I hope the Leafs stand firm on this.
- Aetherial

I think Marner has proven alot more than Eichel ever did.

I'd take Marner over Eichel at this point.

How old was Savard or Lindros when their concussion issues started?
- Aetherial

Savard was 34 and Lindros I think is too far back for this discussion.

Edit: Savard was 34 when he ended his career. Probably like 32 when concussion issues started? Something like that.

I think Marner has proven alot more than Eichel ever did.

I'd take Marner over Eichel at this point.
- Scabeh

I agree, Scabs.

I think Marner has proven alot more than Eichel ever did.

I'd take Marner over Eichel at this point.
- Scabeh

From a Habs perspective?

Eichel, every day. I would not even think it would be close?

Who do you take, Eichel or Marner?

Obviously with the Leafs having Matthews and Tavares, I would prefer Marner.

The point is, I would say Eichel probably holds more value for any team not from Pittsburgh, Tampa or Toronto. Marner's salary demands should be in accordance. I hope the Leafs stand firm on this.
- Aetherial

I would take Eichel

Could it be possible that Ekblad and Johnson just weren't as good as we all thought? MacArthur was also 32 when he stopped playing. I was referencing players aged 22-26.
- RickJames77

E. Johnson entering the NHL looked like he was going to be a monster. Ekblad was a monster that first season. Then he got 3 concussions straight and has been fighting it. Was looking great ending this year though.

Could it be possible that Ekblad and Johnson just weren't as good as we all thought? MacArthur was also 32 when he stopped playing. I was referencing players aged 22-26.
- RickJames77

that fact that it happens only very few times doesn't mean it will not happen never.
I really hope for Kevin Labanc that he doesn't get injured this season - a horrible deal for him taking into account the risk and the 1year 1mln extension after a 56point season..

E. Johnson entering the NHL looked like he was going to be a monster. Ekblad was a monster that first season. Then he got 3 concussions straight and has been fighting it. Was looking great ending this year though.
- AdamFrench

I didn't even notice. If I grant you Ekblad, though, then there's really only one we can come up with (recently). Fair to say there isn't much risk in a player taking a 4 year deal and betting on himself? I personally don't think so, but of course there is some. I don't think it's much and there's always insurance.

Erik Johnson never reached his "potential." Ekblad has been fighting them. He's on concussion...4? Clarke MacArthur had his career ended.
- AdamFrench

Joffrey Lupul.

I was referring to the 4.3mln after 2018 season, not the qualifying offer after this season.
- MaximusAurelius

Ottawa is a cap floor team, and probably will be until Melnyk sells or is forced to sell the team. They had the opportunity to walk away from that deal and did not. Most teams probably would have walked.

that fact that it happens only very few times doesn't mean it will not happen never.
I really hope for Kevin Labanc that he doesn't get injured this season - a horrible deal for him taking into account the risk and the 1year 1mln extension after a 56point season..
- MaximusAurelius

I didn't say that it did. It will, over a large enough sample size, tell you the likelihood of it happening, though.

From a Habs perspective?

Eichel, every day. I would not even think it would be close?
- Aetherial

From a Habs perspective as well, yes.

Not that I wouldn't take Eichel, I just think Marner is more dominant than he is.

Joffrey Lupul.
- Atomic Wedgie

Was he really all that good? You would all know better than I would.

But it's fact according to NHL salaries. LOL

Sorry but Tavares and Matthews are fine contracts, score many more goals and are CENTRES.


Sucks you lost a #1 D at age 25 and Laine and Connor won't sign, but don't be bitter about the Leafs.
- RogerRoeper

For all the people laughing or cricizing those contracts.

The question should be, "Would your team trade valuable pieces for those guys". The answer is yes, in both cases. So the contracts are not horrible.

We are going to hate when Matthews walks though.