He'll probably be one after this deal

I like him too much to have him go there. Same with Cole Caufield
- RickJames77

I doubt it. He seems like the rare guy nowadays that would spend his entire career with the same organisation.

Unless he gets traded for some reason.

really cannot keep to a normal conversation, can you?
- MaximusAurelius

🤗🤗

We weren't having a conversation, by the way.

Marner is probably the Leafs 3rd best forward.

Dont buy the BS about how a flashy winger who played 82 games with an Elite Center is worth more than Auston Matthews
- senstroll

Then include Rielly and Freddy to the other players list. Pushing Marner to 5th.

I doubt it. He seems like the rare guy nowadays that would spend his entire career with the same organisation.

Unless he gets traded for some reason.
- GreatGigInTheSky

What makes you say that? Especially since he technically already signed with another team at the age of 21. I'm genuinely asking, because I probably don't know something you might.

Lindros' brother?
- MaximusAurelius

huh?

Marner is probably the Leafs 3rd best forward.

Dont buy the BS about how a flashy winger who played 82 games with an Elite Center is worth more than Auston Matthews
- senstroll

He blocked a shot one time. He's worth 12 at least. You ever see McBust or Glassthews block a shot?

What makes you say that? Especially since he technically already signed with another team at the age of 21. I'm genuinely asking, because I probably don't know something you might.
- RickJames77

He completely used the Habs. He knew that Carolina would match it with ease. He just didn't want to wait around and go through it all Summer. Like every other RFA seems to be doing.

I don't actually know anything. It's just the feeling I get looking at him and whatnot. I just see him as a lifer in Carolina (or, at least, the Hurricanes organisation. Since Carolina may one day be relocated.).

Marner will sign before the season starts. He was just shy of being top 10 in the league last season.

And I'm sure he believes he could be a possible Hart candidate this upcoming season and won't want to miss any time in order to do so.

I'm probably crazy, but that's just how I feel

What makes you say that? Especially since he technically already signed with another team at the age of 21. I'm genuinely asking, because I probably don't know something you might.
- RickJames77

Canes took away his dream of playing for the Habs.

When asked if he believed Marner and Dubas were close to inking a deal, Friedman noted that what fascinates him “is that I’ve had people tell me they don’t think they’re really that far off on a short-term deal. I’ve had other people telling me the team is really starting to get fed up with the way this is going.”



Such a poopty situation.

I think even once he signs his deal he is not untouchable anymore.
- Santo_44

I agree, it's the owners fault for not insisting on arbitration automatically after an entry level deal expires, in the last deal signed with the players. It's an idiotic oversight and must be fixed. It will force players and owner to at least bargain in good faith rather than play the blackmail game.

He completely used the Habs. He knew that Carolina would match it with ease. He just didn't want to wait around and go through it all Summer. Like every other RFA seems to be doing.

I don't actually know anything. It's just the feeling I get looking at him and whatnot. I just see him as a lifer in Carolina (or, at least, the Hurricanes organisation. Since Carolina may one day be relocated.).
- GreatGigInTheSky

I see where you’re coming from, but we can’t really know any of that to be true. That was a real bonus heavy contract that could have potentially handcuffed the team financially. He also said he really wanted to be a hab, which of course could’ve been used as leverage, but we don’t really know.

Point being, it’s all speculation in my opinion, which is fine, but I’m not willing to say it is one thing or another. Totally your right to formulate an opinion though

Canes took away his dream of playing for the Habs.
- Scabeh

Do you think there was any truth to that or was he using you guys?

Canes took away his dream of playing for the Habs.
- Scabeh

Waddell sent Bergevin a new Rolex and 4 cases of Dom Perignon as a thank you for lowering AHO's AAV

huh?
- RickJames77

Brett Lindros.

Brett Lindros.
- MaximusAurelius

I prefaced my comment with “modern day NHL”. I wouldn’t classify that as modern day NHL.

I agree, it's the owners fault for not insisting on arbitration automatically after an entry level deal expires, in the last deal signed with the players. It's an idiotic oversight and must be fixed. It will force players and owner to at least bargain in good faith rather than play the blackmail game.
- winsix

Arbitration process is bad as well.
Ceci at 4.3mln is a joke.

lol, thats Dreger level reporting

he could be close to signing, but might not be
- senstroll

I am mostly pointing to the fact he said the Leafs are fed up.

I agree, it's the owners fault for not insisting on arbitration automatically after an entry level deal expires, in the last deal signed with the players. It's an idiotic oversight and must be fixed. It will force players and owner to at least bargain in good faith rather than play the blackmail game.
- winsix

Also the arbitrator would Laugh in Marners face when he says he should be compared to AM

I'm sure a deal will get done and all, but I honestly don't think they want to deal with Ferris ever again. And I can't say I blame them at all. Negotiating entirely through the media doesn't build any faith or trust. Nor does asking for the biggest over payment in league history.

So I really hope that come Marner's next contract, Ferris isn't his agent anymore.

Of course, in a perfect world, Marner fires the idiot today and is signed within the week.
- GreatGigInTheSky

Marner may not be here in 3 years....

I see where you’re coming from, but we can’t really know any of that to be true. That was a real bonus heavy contract that could have potentially handcuffed the team financially. He also said he really wanted to be a hab, which of course could’ve been used as leverage, but we don’t really know.

Point being, it’s all speculation in my opinion, which is fine, but I’m not willing to say it is one thing or another. Totally your right to formulate an opinion though
- RickJames77

Listening to Bergevin try to convince himself that Aho wanted to be there, was comical . You could tell that even he knew it wasn't true.

I know it's just an opinion that I think he'll stay with the Hurricanes, though. Didn't mean to state otherwise.

Yup.

That 6M contract is going to look like a steal very, very soon.
- Scabeh

agreed

Arbitration process is bad as well.
Ceci at 4.3mln is a joke.
- MaximusAurelius

Disagree, arbitration is useful. Ceci was qualified by Ottawa, there was no arbitration, or he likely would have been released and signed for a lower number. Arbitration is not perfect but you left out some details here.

Marner may not be here in 3 years....
- Santo_44

That's why I'm hoping he does the smart thing and poopcans his agent.

Disagree, arbitration is useful. Ceci was qualified by Ottawa, there was no arbitration, or he likely would have been released and signed for a lower number. Arbitration is not perfect but you left out some details here.
- winsix

I was referring to the 4.3mln after 2018 season, not the qualifying offer after this season.

Doug Wilson wins the gold medal for cap gymnastics, that's for sure.
- RickJames77

He might win the gold medal for those value contracts, but it looks like Dubas and team are the leaders in cap gymnastics