aminnes
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Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB Joined: 12.17.2008
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Exactly. Lets not forget that Tavares went from 37 goals to 47. - Stormeysuperego
This is a real issue in negotiating. How could Dubas tell Marner he is less important than Matthews or JT when the coach uses him the most, and in every situation? People wonder why he had a few open net goals, it's because when your up by one late in the third the coach is putting Marner out there. He is clearly the go-to guy. Bolland played on championship teams, he said Marner's role is just like Toews. He is the go-to. So for the club to say should make less flies in the face of what they have been doing. |
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Garnie
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Location: ON Joined: 11.30.2009
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Exactly. Lets not forget that Tavares went from 37 goals to 47. - Stormeysuperego
And +19 goals from the season previous.
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lonnyBohonos
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Location: New York, NY Joined: 02.02.2017
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Exactly. Lets not forget that Tavares went from 37 goals to 47. - Stormeysuperego
Marner CF% with JT = 53.59
Marner CF% w/o JT = 39.06
ya there is definitely some benefit to marner. |
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senstroll
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Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON Joined: 02.22.2008
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Probably better then Nylander last year but not as good as Nylander when he tags along with Matthew good. - Garnie
Nylander.. the only player that gets better results if he plays with a good player |
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lonnyBohonos
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Location: New York, NY Joined: 02.02.2017
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This is a real issue in negotiating. How could Dubas tell Marner he is less important than Matthews or JT when the coach uses him the most, and in every situation? People wonder why he had a few open net goals, it's because when your up by one late in the third the coach is putting Marner out there. He is clearly the go-to guy. Bolland played on championship teams, he said Marner's role is just like Toews. He is the go-to. So for the club to say should make less flies in the face of what they have been doing. - aminnes
I want Marner on the team and I think they'll get a contract done, he's one of the funnest players in the league to watch. But to say that he is more valuable then two elite centers is laughable.
again, you dont build a team around wingers, no matter how good they are. |
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Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC Joined: 02.25.2007
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I want Marner on the team and I think they'll get a contract done, he's one of the funnest players in the league to watch. But to say that he is more valuable then two elite centers is laughable.
again, you dont build a team around wingers, no matter how good they are. - lonnyBohonos
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bobbyisno1
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Location: I'm excited to see that Joined: 08.28.2010
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It really is the worst roster I have ever seen. At least, I don't recall one as bad. - RickJames77
Really, you don't recall the 2015 Leafs? |
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Tumbleweed
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Location: avid reader of the daily douche news Joined: 03.14.2014
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Tkachuk will get 50. I don't think anyone will need to carry his ass.
The rest of the forwards....ugh. - Stormeysuperego
Tkackuk w/stone: 515 minutes. CF 52.1%. 29 GF, 22 GA
Tkachuk w/o stone: 423 minutes. CF 45.2%. 18 GF, 27 GA
Stone w/o Tkackuk: 402 minutes. CF 53.0% 29 GF, 21 GA
https://www.naturalstattr...p2=8480801&p3=0&p4=0&p5=0 |
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Location: Matt Stajan still sucks, even in Germany. Joined: 07.20.2006
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Really, you don't recall the 2015 Leafs? - bobbyisno1
any leaf team with matt stajan on it was probably the worst. |
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lonnyBohonos
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Location: New York, NY Joined: 02.02.2017
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- Scabeh
all it took for the caps to win was a vezina goalie, a league leading defenceman in points, and the two best CENTERS the team has ever had in Backstrom and Kuznetsov.
He could never carry the team before that. |
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Garnie
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Location: ON Joined: 11.30.2009
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Nylander.. the only player that gets better results if he plays with a good player - senstroll
Exactly |
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Mike Augello
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Location: Buffalo, NY Joined: 06.25.2006
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Stormeysuperego
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Location: if we ever meet i will smash a beer bottle on your face - Pecafan fan Joined: 06.07.2013
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- Scabeh
HE DOESN'T COUNT!!!
AND BEFORE YOU GET ALL SMART...NEITHER DOES PATRICK KANE! |
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lonnyBohonos
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Location: New York, NY Joined: 02.02.2017
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HE DOESN'T COUNT!!!
AND BEFORE YOU GET ALL SMART...NEITHER DOES PATRICK KANE! - Stormeysuperego
When they finally had two elite centers they won. weird
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bobbyisno1
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Location: I'm excited to see that Joined: 08.28.2010
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any leaf team with matt stajan on it was probably the worst. - LeafnsNxt2Godlyns
They have come last overall twice in the last 40 years and that was year was 1 of those times. |
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aminnes
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Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB Joined: 12.17.2008
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I want Marner on the team and I think they'll get a contract done, he's one of the funnest players in the league to watch. But to say that he is more valuable then two elite centers is laughable.
again, you dont build a team around wingers, no matter how good they are. - lonnyBohonos
No one said you build a team around wingers but to say no winger can be as valuable as a centre is BS. I'm not saying he has more value/importance, the Leafs are. He is the go-to. He plays the most, in all situations. They have made him their most opportune player by heir usage. |
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aminnes
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Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB Joined: 12.17.2008
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all it took for the caps to win was a vezina goalie, a league leading defenceman in points, and the two best CENTERS the team has ever had in Backstrom and Kuznetsov.
He could never carry the team before that. - lonnyBohonos
You mean a team. So guys can be extremely important even though they don't play centre. |
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Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 11.30.2009
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Marner CF% with JT = 53.59
Marner CF% w/o JT = 39.06
ya there is definitely some benefit to marner. - lonnyBohonos
I bet that’s a great big sample of mins?
He was 52% the year previous without JT - 1000 minutes.
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Stormeysuperego
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Location: if we ever meet i will smash a beer bottle on your face - Pecafan fan Joined: 06.07.2013
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HE DOESN'T COUNT!!!
AND BEFORE YOU GET ALL SMART...NEITHER DOES PATRICK KANE! - Stormeysuperego
and for the love of god don't bring up Kucherov...or Taylor Hall.
Last but not least please do not bring up the fact that 7 or the last 12 hart trophy winners were wingers. |
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GreatGigInTheSky
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Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON Joined: 06.12.2017
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I didnt read the article so not sure if it was mentioned..but I saw someone tweet that Bolland is represented by Ferris also - senstroll
Yup. I posted a picture of that tweet last night.
I wonder haw much Bolland is getting for being a shill? |
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Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC Joined: 02.25.2007
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all it took for the caps to win was a vezina goalie, a league leading defenceman in points, and the two best CENTERS the team has ever had in Backstrom and Kuznetsov.
He could never carry the team before that. - lonnyBohonos
And which player "carried" his team more playing centre or another position without having other great pieces around him? |
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Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC Joined: 02.25.2007
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and for the love of god don't bring up Kucherov...or Taylor Hall.
Last but not least please do not bring up the fact that 7 or the last 12 hart trophy winners were wingers. - Stormeysuperego
All riding a bandwagon!! |
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Stormeysuperego
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Location: if we ever meet i will smash a beer bottle on your face - Pecafan fan Joined: 06.07.2013
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All riding a bandwagon!! - Scabeh
I hope Hall gave half of his Hart Trophy bonus to Travis Zajac. |
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aminnes
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Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB Joined: 12.17.2008
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and for the love of god don't bring up Kucherov...or Taylor Hall.
Last but not least please do not bring up the fact that 7 or the last 12 hart trophy winners were wingers. - Stormeysuperego
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aminnes
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Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB Joined: 12.17.2008
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and for the love of god don't bring up Kucherov...or Taylor Hall.
Last but not least please do not bring up the fact that 7 or the last 12 hart trophy winners were wingers. - Stormeysuperego
This utterly destroys the centre argument. |
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