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senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Aug 22 @ 1:13 PM ET
Boeser's camp is wanting 4 year deal 7 mill AAV.

That's reasonable!

- LeafGuy89


wouldnt that make him a UFA at the end of it?
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Aug 22 @ 1:15 PM ET
wouldnt that make him a UFA at the end of it?
- senstroll

I thought the same thing, but apparently not.

He'd have one year left of RFA status.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Aug 22 @ 1:17 PM ET
The Leafs are quickly moving towards a paperless ticketing system.

I was given the option this year ($50 RealSports incentive). But I like the actual tix - it's fun to see my daughters' friends keep them as souvenirs when we take them to games.

You used to be able to download the tix and email them - that ended a season or two ago. It has to be done through the Leafs app now.

My guess is within 2 years, there won't be any paper tickets. Will be very, very interesting to see what that does to scalpers.

- Atomic Wedgie


same thing - moved to electronic.

we all need moar hidden fees to pay.
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Aug 22 @ 1:22 PM ET
we'll see it when they sign their deals.
and by 'they' i mean marner, provorov, mcavoy, rantanen, laine, tkachuk, werenski, point, boeser.
i'm not saying by the way that their best option is 2y or 7/8 years depending on how CBA opt out discussions will turn out (i don't know the exact implications on their future contracts) - i am just saying that that potential opt-out could be a big reason for those players to not sign anything yet until it is clear whether there will be a new CBA negotiated soon or not.

- MaximusAurelius

I think these players know whether their own association will opt out or not. The League will not opt out, let's be honest. It's all up to the players. If they do opt out, it doesn't mean they have any clearer picture of what contracts will look like because they will need to start negotiating a new one. They will still have to sign with that unknown or sit the year out, which I doubt anyone will do, because the next season after could be locked out. I don't think that is a reason for these hold outs.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Aug 22 @ 1:25 PM ET
White is a guy that does what Nylander is paid for : be a 2nd line C with 60-70points per season.
In addition to that though, he's quite good on the defensive side of the game and has a lot of compete in him.
His AAV is 2mln less than Nylander as well.

- MaximusAurelius


wut?
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Aug 22 @ 1:29 PM ET
wut?
- Tumbleweed


White will be a very dependable #2C in NHL throughout his career, with 60-70points per season in his prime years (23/24 to 29).
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Aug 22 @ 1:30 PM ET
same thing - moved to electronic.

we all need moar hidden fees to pay.

- Tumbleweed

They'll probably just transfer them to you like ticket holders do to their friends and family. I'd actually be more comfortable with this. I never used to buy printed tickets, which in the past they often try to peddle, other than one time. I had the guy walk through security and to the turnstyles to ensure they were good (it was a HIGHLY sought after NCAA game). Even with the hard tickets, they could've printed them off somewhere else and sold dups. This way you 100% know it's your ticket when they transfer it, because there are no printed duplicates and no stubs they could've sold to someone else 10 minutes prior.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Aug 22 @ 1:37 PM ET
wut?
- Tumbleweed



white is a guy that does what Nylander is paid for, except he hasnt done what Nylander is Paid for

whats not to understand?
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Aug 22 @ 1:39 PM ET
White will be a very dependable #2C in NHL throughout his career, with 60-70points per season in his prime years (23/24 to 29).
- MaximusAurelius



you do some fantastic mental gymnastics to arrive at your destinations
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Aug 22 @ 1:42 PM ET
white is a guy that does what Nylander is paid for, except he hasnt done what Nylander is Paid for

whats not to understand?

- senstroll


nylander a and 1st for white.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Aug 22 @ 1:42 PM ET
They'll probably just transfer them to you like ticket holders do to their friends and family. I'd actually be more comfortable with this. I never used to buy printed tickets, which in the past they often try to peddle, other than one time. I had the guy walk through security and to the turnstyles to ensure they were good (it was a HIGHLY sought after NCAA game). Even with the hard tickets, they could've printed them off somewhere else and sold dups. This way you 100% know it's your ticket when they transfer it, because there are no printed duplicates and no stubs they could've sold to someone else 10 minutes prior.
- RickJames77

It’s just a little weird if you have to give personal info to the greasy scalper on the corner.

MLSEL put in a surcharge a year or two ago - if they deemed your account to be one where you sold the majority of your tix, they charged you extra.

Big Brother is now watching you.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Aug 22 @ 1:42 PM ET
you do some fantastic mental gymnastics to arrive at your destinations
- senstroll


I gave up
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Aug 22 @ 1:44 PM ET
Not because you don't understand the level at which Max can do math versus your basis level of understanding that should disrespect him.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Aug 22 @ 1:45 PM ET
lists!

https://www.rawcharge.com...wards-defense-arguing-mad

Marner the 19th ranked winger

To make this list, I blended wins above replacement (WAR), expected goal impact using regularized adjusted plus minus (RAPM), and the original list from NHL Network. For WAR and expected goal impact, I used the last three years of data for all skaters via Evolving Hockey. I weighted the seasons using the 5, 4, 3 method used frequently in sports analytics. I don’t know how much sense it makes here but if it’s good enough for real stats, it’s good enough for this nonsense.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Aug 22 @ 1:47 PM ET
lists!

https://www.rawcharge.com...wards-defense-arguing-mad

Marner the 19th ranked winger

- senstroll

It has plenty of numbers that don’t make sense, so it must be true.
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Aug 22 @ 1:48 PM ET
It’s just a little weird if you have to give personal info to the greasy scalper in the corner.

MLSEL put in a surcharge a year or two ago - if they deemed your account to be one where you sold the majority of your tix, they charged you extra.

Big Brother is now watching you.

- Atomic Wedgie
Bruins did the same. They actually took it a step further. If you were a high volume seller, who lived outside of the north east (think New England + New York), they terminated your account. There was an article about that around February 2016. The next off season (summer 2016) my number was called and I was taken off the waiting list for season tickets once and for all. I was very happy that they did that.

As for greasy scalper, the only info I'd have to give would be an email associated with a ticketmaster account. You could just set one up only for that? I don't know if your system requires more info though.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Aug 22 @ 1:49 PM ET
It has plenty of numbers that don’t make sense, so it must be true.
- Atomic Wedgie



lists are important and must be argued
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Aug 22 @ 1:54 PM ET
Bruins did the same. They actually took it a step further. If you were a high volume seller, who lived outside of the north east (think New England + New York), they terminated your account. There was an article about that around February 2016. The next off season (summer 2016) my number was called and I was taken off the waiting list for season tickets once and for all. I was very happy that they did that.

As for greasy scalper, the only info I'd have to give would be an email associated with a ticketmaster account. You could just set one up only for that? I don't know if your system requires more info though.

- RickJames77

I’m sure you could create a dummy Leafs app account, but how many middle-aged, upper muddle class ticket buyers will?

I’m not saying it will kill the game day scalper market, but I do think there will be a definite drag on it.
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Aug 22 @ 1:55 PM ET
I’m sure you could create a dummy Leafs app account, but how many middle-aged, upper muddle class ticket buyers will?

I’m not saying it will kill the game day scalper market, but I do think there will be a definite drag on it.

- Atomic Wedgie
Fair enough. I could see that.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Aug 22 @ 1:56 PM ET
lists are important and must be argued
- senstroll

Wedgie’s Top 7 Reasons Why Senstroll is Wrong
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Aug 22 @ 1:56 PM ET
you do some fantastic mental gymnastics to arrive at your destinations
- senstroll

He says random poop that come to his head.

It is quite funny to watch.
Hardbalz
Joined: 06.08.2011

Aug 22 @ 1:57 PM ET
If he plays all 82 games 40 pts is possible, but Barrie and Rielly will be getting the pp time. Don't think Jake is being counted on for points. PK will be his calling card
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Aug 22 @ 1:57 PM ET
White will be a very dependable #2C in NHL throughout his career, with 60-70points per season in his prime years (23/24 to 29).
- MaximusAurelius


Your hate for Nylander is strong, White is ok, he has 47 career points in 94 NHL games. Nylander scored 61 points in his first full season. They're not comparables. Johnsson has better stats and has a lower salary. He's not even close to being a 2C on a good team.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Aug 22 @ 1:58 PM ET
It has plenty of numbers that don’t make sense, so it must be true.
- Atomic Wedgie


Looks like a James Tanner article to me.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Aug 22 @ 1:58 PM ET
Looks like a James Tanner article to me.
- Scabeh



Max needs a blog
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