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Taylorst1
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 07.09.2018

Aug 19 @ 9:46 PM ET
Tyler great article as always. I think your breakdown is about as close to perfection as can be.

What made the hawksmof the past great was , crisp passing , stretch passes , clean breakouts and constant pressure in the offensize zone.

It's hard to say how this group will ultimately pan out, however on paper Chicago vastly improved defensively, depth and overall talent.

I think it's possible those numbers you posted could go even higher

Adding 20 to 30 more goals from their forward group
And 10 from their defenseman.

Just curious on your take , if boqvist shows in training camp he is ready, who does Stan in your opinion trade ? Would they trade Gus just to maybe improve their depth youth wise say a Jesse pulv.if he is still on the block ?
Taylorst1
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 07.09.2018

Aug 19 @ 9:59 PM ET
It's just an IT fact that 90% (or so) of bugs target the non-Mac world. It largely mirrors market share. So definitely its been safer.

I use Mac's Safari browser, outside of some distracting popups ads on the side, I don't have browser issues others are noting.


Regarding how good the hawks actually were from January onward (top 10 team record wise) and St. L. showing the possibilities (worst record in league in January to cup champs), it makes me wonder if the hawks are actually a sleeping dark horse that few analysts are considering as playoff impact team. Current ones I've seen only put them as #5 or #6 in division (with caveat of saying the division has many good teams.

I know chemistry is hard to measure before it actually occurs, but if the hawks do have that teamwork chemistry, it sure seems to me this is a #3 or #4 team in the division.

- DontKnowNutin



I agree. I think chicago on paper has vastly improved and I would put them fighting for 1st in the central with Colorado.

St Louis is questionable along with Dallas. Nashville and Winnipeg I don't see them as the dominant teams this year.

San Jose and Vegas would be the next 2 major teams.


Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Aug 19 @ 10:36 PM ET
What made the hawksmof the past great was , crisp passing , stretch passes , clean breakouts and constant pressure in the offensize zone.

It's hard to say how this group will ultimately pan out, however on paper Chicago vastly improved defensively, depth and overall talent.

- Taylorst1

Another element was defensive support by the forwards. If this year's team can bring all those elements you listed plus forward support to the ice consistently, then this team is a playoff team and not of the "one and done" variety.

Just curious on your take , if boqvist shows in training camp he is ready, who does Stan in your opinion trade ? Would they trade Gus just to maybe improve their depth youth wise say a Jesse pulv.if he is still on the block ?
- Taylorst1

Tyler can obviously answer for himself but thought I'd take a stab at addressing your question. I would say yes to trading Gustafsson for high draft picks and/or prospects, especially if he duplicates last year's output.

I would not, though, aim for Puljujarvi but a young player with better potential. If you want a player like Puljujarvi, he can likely be had for a cheaper return.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Aug 19 @ 11:09 PM ET
Is it preseason yet
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Aug 19 @ 11:50 PM ET
Is it preseason yet
- BetweenTheDots



hawk35
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NF
Joined: 08.26.2009

Aug 20 @ 5:34 AM ET
I usually don't do the grammar police, but this post is awesome.
- kwolf68


Their, there, they're......calm down. (pats shoulder)....
just69sayin
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: chicago
Joined: 11.15.2014

Aug 20 @ 7:52 AM ET
[quote=kwolf68]
Size. Smarts. Skill. Heart. Kotkaniemi did it last year for the Canadiens. That's why. Lets go
biskit67
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 07.27.2015

Aug 20 @ 8:47 AM ET
Serious question, anyone else here run into "computer issues" when visiting this site. I get virus warnings of various types here that lock up my computer temporarily Anyone ??
- BobP.


It might be the massive amount of pop ups on here. I pay the $20 a year to be a "season ticket holder" pretty much just to not have the pop ups. I use FireFox and Chrome on different computers and on my phone and have never had an issue.
walleyeb1
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Petersburg, IL
Joined: 09.25.2014

Aug 20 @ 8:53 AM ET
It might be the massive amount of pop ups on here. I pay the $20 a year to be a "season ticket holder" pretty much just to not have the pop ups. I use FireFox and Chrome on different computers and on my phone and have never had an issue.
- biskit67


I just run Adblock Plus it’s free.
savvyone-1
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I'm singing the Blues!, IL
Joined: 03.04.2011

Aug 20 @ 9:29 AM ET
I just run Adblock Plus it’s free.
- walleyeb1

Yes.

And for those not familiar, I would also use Disconnect.
Info about it here: https://disconnect.me/disconnect/help

Disconnect will help prevent your web views from being tracked. All sorts of advertising requests, analytics, social content, etc.

AdBlock Plus and Disconnect are what I use.
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Aug 20 @ 9:31 AM ET
[quote=kwolf68]What has Dach done to earn this? I've never seen a prospect so hyped in my life. Can't wait till he scores 80 points this year./quote]

JJ??? Is that you?
hawk35
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NF
Joined: 08.26.2009

Aug 20 @ 9:38 AM ET
It might be the massive amount of pop ups on here. I pay the $20 a year to be a "season ticket holder" pretty much just to not have the pop ups. I use FireFox and Chrome on different computers and on my phone and have never had an issue.
- biskit67


I pay the $20 also, but it is so I can enter the "Member" hockey pool. And, paid off too. Got 2nd place. Received a sweet Hawk Jersey. Top notch. Personalized name on back. Fantastic spending choice of $20!!!! lol

Beaver-Warrior
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: in my great and unmatched wisdom
Joined: 07.28.2011

Aug 20 @ 9:47 AM ET

- HawkintheD[quote=kwolf68]What has Dach done to earn this? I've never seen a prospect so hyped in my life. Can't wait till he scores 80 points this year./quote]


JJ??? Is that you?


Don't think the Hawk PR machine is hyping him up like it did with Jesus.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Aug 20 @ 10:05 AM ET

- HawkintheD[quote=kwolf68]What has Dach done to earn this? I've never seen a prospect so hyped in my life. Can't wait till he scores 80 points this year./quote]


JJ??? Is that you?



DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Aug 20 @ 10:06 AM ET
Don't think the Hawk PR machine is hyping him up like it did with Jesus.
- Beaver-Warrior



Kirby Dach = Kyle Beach 2.0.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Aug 20 @ 10:34 AM ET
Kirby Dach = Kyle Beach 2.0.
- DarthKane


I think a better comparison would be Grant Mulvey
Beaver-Warrior
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: in my great and unmatched wisdom
Joined: 07.28.2011

Aug 20 @ 10:34 AM ET
Kirby Dach = Kyle Beach 2.0.
- DarthKane


Who's going to reprise the Mathis Olimb role?
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Aug 20 @ 10:38 AM ET
Who's going to reprise the Mathis Olimb role?
- Beaver-Warrior



Mathias From
Rota's Rooter
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2017

Aug 20 @ 11:28 AM ET
I think a better comparison would be Grant Mulvey
- LAHawk

Good ole #22!!!!. Met him once. It was like shaking hands with a cast iron frying pan. Huge, crushing grip.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Aug 20 @ 11:51 AM ET
Good ole #22!!!!. Met him once. It was like shaking hands with a cast iron frying pan. Huge, crushing grip.
- Rota's Rooter


Played a full season as an 18 year old, skated like an uncoordinated labrador.
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Aug 20 @ 12:09 PM ET
Kirby Dach = Kyle Beach 2.0.
- DarthKane

As a past no.1 draft choice Stan is looking to acquire Beach.
Tyler Cameron
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 10.31.2017

Aug 20 @ 12:42 PM ET
Tyler great article as always. I think your breakdown is about as close to perfection as can be.

What made the hawksmof the past great was , crisp passing , stretch passes , clean breakouts and constant pressure in the offensize zone.

It's hard to say how this group will ultimately pan out, however on paper Chicago vastly improved defensively, depth and overall talent.

I think it's possible those numbers you posted could go even higher

Adding 20 to 30 more goals from their forward group
And 10 from their defenseman.

Just curious on your take , if boqvist shows in training camp he is ready, who does Stan in your opinion trade ? Would they trade Gus just to maybe improve their depth youth wise say a Jesse pulv.if he is still on the block ?

- Taylorst1


Good question.

I honestly don't think Boqvist will be 100% NHL ready in a couple months. Also, there's no need to rush him - especially when you have Gustafsson on the roster right now.

If... if I'm wrong and Boqvist is simply lights out and they can't send him down, I think the Hawks will keep Gustafsson for a while. While it would be hard to envision both on them on the same team, the Hawks do have the benefit of defensive-first additions, Maatta and de Haan to pair these guys with.

If it looks like Boqvist can keep up with the big boys full-time, then maybe Stan pulls the trigger on trading Gus.


glennjpawlak22
Joined: 11.26.2013

Aug 20 @ 12:54 PM ET
Good question.

I honestly don't think Boqvist will be 100% NHL ready in a couple months. Also, there's no need to rush him - especially when you have Gustafsson on the roster right now.

If... if I'm wrong and Boqvist is simply lights out and they can't send him down, I think the Hawks will keep Gustafsson for a while. While it would be hard to envision both on them on the same team, the Hawks do have the benefit of defensive-first additions, Maatta and de Haan to pair these guys with.

If it looks like Boqvist can keep up with the big boys full-time, then maybe Stan pulls the trigger on trading Gus.

- Tyler Cameron


Tyler, what do you think is the likely return on Gus? lets assume he is traded at the deadline and is having a solid season
SaskHawkFan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: SK
Joined: 05.18.2014

Aug 20 @ 1:01 PM ET
Kirby Dach = Kyle Beach 2.0.
- DarthKane


i would disagree just based on hockey IQ
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Aug 20 @ 1:11 PM ET
Tyler, what do you think is the likely return on Gus? lets assume he is traded at the deadline and is having a solid season
- glennjpawlak22


If it is at the deadline and he is putting up points like he did last year, you are gong to get a 1st round pick for him and maybe a prospect. Prices get crazy inflated around that time and to acquire a point producing blueliner is very costly. Just imagine if his defense is even adequate (in which case it would be difficult to see them move him...).
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