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seedy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: you don't need an ignore button to ignore someone., CA
Joined: 02.22.2007

Aug 18 @ 8:59 PM ET
No it does not, but having a winger making $9M a year and hampering our roster flexibility during Eichel and Dahlin’s prime years might be the difference between getting over the hump and not consistently being a first or second round playoff knockout.
- Swedish_Jesus


We have $35,408,333 in projected cap space next summer.

Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Aug 18 @ 9:20 PM ET
We have $35,408,333 in projected cap space next summer.
- seedy



Yeah, but we only have like 8 or 10 guys signed, don't we?
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Aug 18 @ 9:30 PM ET
I would do that as well as long as the contract isn't automatically 8/$80

Too much risk imo. I'd want to see a bridge personally


If Laine was willing to sign a bridge deal,
wouldn’t that have been done by now??
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Aug 18 @ 9:33 PM ET
Yeah, but we only have like 8 or 10 guys signed, don't we?
- Powerslave

Eichel
Skinner
Okposo
Johansson
Ristolainen
Miller
McCabe
Dahlin
Hutton
Cozens
Ruotsalainen
Asplund
Jokiharju

13 players under contract that should be up next year, and:

Pilut
Olofsson
Thompson
Montour
Mittelstadt
Reinhart
Ullmark

and 7 RFAs we control and can easily fit under the cap. People need to stop acting like the sky is falling with the cap, it comes across naive and ill informed.
Swedish_Jesus
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 07.02.2019

Aug 18 @ 9:37 PM ET
We have $35,408,333 in projected cap space next summer.
- seedy


Reinhart is going to get a raise. Mitts will get a raise. Montour will get a raise. I’m assuming they’ll try to get Dahlin signed a year out but nonetheless that cap hit has to be kept in mind for 2021. If Hutton/Ullmark poop the bed again we’ll have to drop more dollars there. We’ll also need to spend on replacements for the middle 6 forwards and possibly more on defense to make up for losing 2/3 of the current roster.

Apart from Eichel, Skinner, Johansson we have nothing signed past this year up front worthwhile.

Miller, Risto (while he is still here), McCabe, Dahlin will be the ones on the backend so most likely more to be spent back there as well apart from Montour.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Aug 18 @ 9:38 PM ET
You and me both, as far as Hayes. It was a million more than I hoped they’d spend on him, but whatever. Honestly I wanted them to go after Kapanen instead. With the money the Leafs have to pump out to everyone else, I think they’d let him go if the offer was solid.

They’re kinda rebuilding on the run, I suppose. I mean, Giroux is 31 and Voracek turned 30 this past week.

The core of this team’s future is Hart, Provorov, Frost, Farabee, Sanheim, Ghost, Myers, Konecny, and Patrick. Guys like G, Voracek, JvR, and Hayes are supposed to help along those guys to become contenders even though they appear to be the attraction today. Philly has a really nice pipeline of players (for once. Thanks Hextall!) coming through.

I think eventually Voracek gets moved for cap space and picks/prospects. Hayes will move to wing when that happens, and Frost (maybe Patrick if he earns it) becomes the 2nd C.


but anyway...

If you can get Laine, do it. You can run two 1st lines almost at that point. If you plan on beating the Leafs and Lightning while your kids are young and Skinner is still producing, you better have a hell of core, because that division is no joke.

I’d rather see the Sabres giving those two a hard time rather than Boston.

- Hesh_


Really? I thought he was like 36.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Aug 18 @ 9:38 PM ET
You are completely out of touch with the current NHL. You do NOT need to be elite defensively.

Dude, yes, we scored more goals than the Islanders last year. Wow, astute observation. My god dude, are you being this dense on purpose? Seriously, you have been agitating more than Fitz lately, and you cannot stop banging this drum.

You are completely wrong. Completely.

I said, you have to OUTSCORE the other team, not SCORE THE MOST GOALS in the league. The Islanders OUTSCORED all the other teams they played. The Sabres DID NOT OUTSCORE the other teams they played. We were horrible on defense, had below-average goaltending, and could not score goals below the top line.

The Islanders had scoring from top to bottom, played solid team defense, got ludicrous goaltending and rolled their way into the playoffs. We didn't get any of that, even during our 10-game win streak.

- BeadyEyedDouche


Maybe u should stop taking a message board so seriously?
TC4145
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 03.03.2019

Aug 18 @ 9:39 PM ET
No it does not, but having a winger making $9M a year and hampering our roster flexibility during Eichel and Dahlin’s prime years might be the difference between getting over the hump and not consistently being a first or second round playoff knockout.
- Swedish_Jesus


An Okposo-type winger, yes. A Skinner type winger, I will take.

Let the SHIITE play out before everyone gets mad, FFS!
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Aug 18 @ 9:41 PM ET
Maybe u should stop taking a message board so seriously?
- jdfitz77


Swedish_Jesus
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 07.02.2019

Aug 18 @ 9:41 PM ET
Eichel
Skinner
Okposo
Johansson
Ristolainen
Miller
McCabe
Dahlin
Hutton
Cozens
Ruotsalainen
Asplund
Jokiharju

13 players under contract that should be up next year, and:

Pilut
Olofsson
Thompson
Montour
Mittelstadt
Reinhart
Ullmark

and 7 RFAs we control and can easily fit under the cap. People need to stop acting like the sky is falling with the cap, it comes across naive and ill informed.

- Mentalorgasm5


You’re comfortable just giving the RFA’s their applicable raises and going into 2020-2021 with that roster ? Mitts is capable of being a high end 2C but until it happens I’m going to stay on level ground. Unless Cozens has a Calder like rookie year that forward group still lacks the firepower to compete with the big boys. Hence spending more money.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Aug 18 @ 9:53 PM ET
ok fitz
- BeadyEyedDouche


I’m so “in your head” 😂😂😂
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Aug 18 @ 9:55 PM ET
Correct

Drury was a second line center on the most exciting team in hockey

He was good but he wasn't elite at anything

- Stripes77


Scoring big goals, just saying
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Aug 18 @ 9:56 PM ET

- Wetbandit1


I don’t think u know what “not ready” means,
but whatever
Hesh_
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.29.2013

Aug 18 @ 9:59 PM ET
Really? I thought he was like 36.
- Wetbandit1

Nah, he’s just been playing since he was 18
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Aug 18 @ 10:14 PM ET
You’re comfortable just giving the RFA’s their applicable raises and going into 2020-2021 with that roster ? Mitts is capable of being a high end 2C but until it happens I’m going to stay on level ground. Unless Cozens has a Calder like rookie year that forward group still lacks the firepower to compete with the big boys. Hence spending more money.
- Swedish_Jesus

We should probably trade Cozens before we have to pay him in 2023. Gotta stay flexible
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Aug 18 @ 10:17 PM ET
You’re comfortable just giving the RFA’s their applicable raises and going into 2020-2021 with that roster ? Mitts is capable of being a high end 2C but until it happens I’m going to stay on level ground. Unless Cozens has a Calder like rookie year that forward group still lacks the firepower to compete with the big boys. Hence spending more money.
- Swedish_Jesus

Yes, outside of Reinhart, no one is set to make serious money in that group.

But hey, the sky is falling.
Swedish_Jesus
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 07.02.2019

Aug 18 @ 10:35 PM ET
Yes, outside of Reinhart, no one is set to make serious money in that group.

But hey, the sky is falling.

- Mentalorgasm5


Dahlin will get $8M minimum . Reinhart will get $7-8M. Let’s say Montour gets $5M, Mitts gets bridged around $2.5M. If our projected cap is $35M then we are left with $12.5M. Before figuring in Thompson, Ullmark, Erod, Girgensons/Larsson (if they are kept). If Olofsson pots 20 this year he’ll be looking at a short bridge of $2.5-3M as well. It’s a good thing Dahlin wouldn’t be up till 2020 giving us 8M of breathing room for next years cap but don’t pretend like we are sitting pretty here. When it’s all said and done we’ll probably have $10-15M to play around with for next year.
TC4145
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 03.03.2019

Aug 18 @ 10:59 PM ET
Dahlin will get $8M minimum . Reinhart will get $7-8M. Let’s say Montour gets $5M, Mitts gets bridged around $2.5M. If our projected cap is $35M then we are left with $12.5M. Before figuring in Thompson, Ullmark, Erod, Girgensons/Larsson (if they are kept). If Olofsson pots 20 this year he’ll be looking at a short bridge of $2.5-3M as well. It’s a good thing Dahlin wouldn’t be up till 2020 giving us 8M of breathing room for next years cap but don’t pretend like we are sitting pretty here. When it’s all said and done we’ll probably have $10-15M to play around with for next year.
- Swedish_Jesus


FFS, why is everyone here for the sky falling? Do you guys even like the Sabres? Hockey? Bunch of pedantic trolls.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Aug 18 @ 11:07 PM ET
So Heiskanen made the NHL networks top 20 d-men at 17 but no Swedish Jesus.
- Swedish_Jesus


Heiskanen lived up too expectations





jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Aug 18 @ 11:08 PM ET
Dahlin will get $8M minimum . Reinhart will get $7-8M. Let’s say Montour gets $5M, Mitts gets bridged around $2.5M. If our projected cap is $35M then we are left with $12.5M. Before figuring in Thompson, Ullmark, Erod, Girgensons/Larsson (if they are kept). If Olofsson pots 20 this year he’ll be looking at a short bridge of $2.5-3M as well. It’s a good thing Dahlin wouldn’t be up till 2020 giving us 8M of breathing room for next years cap but don’t pretend like we are sitting pretty here. When it’s all said and done we’ll probably have $10-15M to play around with for next year.
- Swedish_Jesus


Spending $$$ on GOOD players isn’t a bad thing
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Aug 18 @ 11:14 PM ET
Dahlin will get $8M minimum . Reinhart will get $7-8M. Let’s say Montour gets $5M, Mitts gets bridged around $2.5M. If our projected cap is $35M then we are left with $12.5M. Before figuring in Thompson, Ullmark, Erod, Girgensons/Larsson (if they are kept). If Olofsson pots 20 this year he’ll be looking at a short bridge of $2.5-3M as well. It’s a good thing Dahlin wouldn’t be up till 2020 giving us 8M of breathing room for next years cap but don’t pretend like we are sitting pretty here. When it’s all said and done we’ll probably have $10-15M to play around with for next year.
- Swedish_Jesus


Dahlin doesnt her paid next year. Montour shouldn't get more than 4.5, but hey, the sky is falling.
Swedish_Jesus
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 07.02.2019

Aug 18 @ 11:15 PM ET
Heiskanen lived up too expectations
- Boss34


Dahlin had the best season by an 18 year old d-man in over 30 years. He also had more points and scored better analytically then Miro.

This is not a slight against Heiskanen by any means, he is going to be a guy we talk about for years to come but he’s the “Matthews/Eichel” to Dahlin’s “McDavid”
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Aug 18 @ 11:20 PM ET
Dahlin had the best season by an 18 year old d-man in over 30 years. He also had more points and scored better analytically then Miro.

This is not a slight against Heiskanen by any means, he is going to be a guy we talk about for years to come but he’s the “Matthews/Eichel” to Dahlin’s “McDavid”

- Swedish_Jesus


Why do ppl care about these stupid lists anyways??
Fattony1187
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.12.2015

Aug 19 @ 8:14 AM ET
Dahlin doesnt her paid next year. Montour shouldn't get more than 4.5, but hey, the sky is falling.
- Mentalorgasm5



Montour will want 6 million plus
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Aug 19 @ 8:20 AM ET
FFS, why is everyone here for the sky falling? Do you guys even like the Sabres? Hockey? Bunch of pedantic trolls.
- TC4145

outside of Okposo i dont think we have anyone on a cap strapping type of contract.. although i am sure someone will throw out Skinner.. i really don't see why anyone is discussing the cap like we are screwed..
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