nyisles7
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Location: Magical Lou, NY Joined: 01.20.2009
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Exactly what this team needs. A little amac. đ
One of my least favorite islanders of all time. Incredible how many debates I got into on here about how effective he was his first couple of seasons𤎠- Cptmjl
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Upstate_isles
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Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY Joined: 05.12.2016
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That AMac idea was from Holgar Stolzenberg of ProHockeyRumors.com . I don't know what credentials you need to write for them. - chazpet
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Hell_Bent
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Location: Hell's Kitchen, NY Joined: 05.06.2019
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Team should consider PTO's for Boyle & Brassard and have them battle w/roster kids for that 3C spot, |
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Cptmjl
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Joined: 11.05.2011
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Team should consider PTO's for Boyle & Brassard and have them battle w/roster kids for that 3C spot, - Hell_Bent
I wanted better but thatâs most likely not happening so I have to agree. I would take brassard and hope he regains his form with Trotz. |
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kindlyrick
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Location: Dallas, TX Joined: 06.21.2007
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Team should consider PTO's for Boyle & Brassard and have them battle w/roster kids for that 3C spot, - Hell_Bent
I'd be happy with either. Always a fan of both players |
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JohnScammo
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Location: Coming to a jail near you Joined: 10.14.2014
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I'd be happy with either. Always a fan of both players - kindlyrick
I have reservations about both.
Brassard played well for the Rangers a few years ago, but seems to be in decline. Like cpt said, maybe Trotz can resurrect his career, but that's a risk.
Boyle is a big wussy, and is getting long in the tooth. One thing working in his favor is that guys are no longer expected to fight. So he doesn't have to get embarrassed by guys half his size using him as a punching bag. On the other hand, maybe he can play on the 3rd line, and hang out in front of the crease. His large body is certainly good for blocking the goalie's view, if nothing else. |
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kindlyrick
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Location: Dallas, TX Joined: 06.21.2007
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I have reservations about both.
Brassard played well for the Rangers a few years ago, but seems to be in decline. Like cpt said, maybe Trotz can resurrect his career, but that's a risk.
Boyle is a big wussy, and is getting long in the tooth. One thing working in his favor is that guys are no longer expected to fight. So he doesn't have to get embarrassed by guys half his size using him as a punching bag. On the other hand, maybe he can play on the 3rd line, and hang out in front of the crease. His large body is certainly good for blocking the goalie's view, if nothing else. - JohnScammo
Im not suggesting the isles are getting guys in their primes, but either would be a replacement for Filpula. Whether you liked Filpula or not he came up with some timely goals last season, and he was never replaced. I'd be ok with Brassard or Boyle being his replacement this year. |
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nyisles7
New York Islanders |
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Location: Magical Lou, NY Joined: 01.20.2009
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nyisles7
New York Islanders |
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Location: Magical Lou, NY Joined: 01.20.2009
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Im not suggesting the isles are getting guys in their primes, but either would be a replacement for Filpula. Whether you liked Filpula or not he came up with some timely goals last season, and he was never replaced. I'd be ok with Brassard or Boyle being his replacement this year. - kindlyrick
Well most on here hated Fili and had a nice season for us. That said if most on here hate either Lou should sign both, they probably have career years |
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nyisles7
New York Islanders |
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Location: Magical Lou, NY Joined: 01.20.2009
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I have reservations about both.
Brassard played well for the Rangers a few years ago, but seems to be in decline. Like cpt said, maybe Trotz can resurrect his career, but that's a risk.
Boyle is a big wussy, and is getting long in the tooth. One thing working in his favor is that guys are no longer expected to fight. So he doesn't have to get embarrassed by guys half his size using him as a punching bag. On the other hand, maybe he can play on the 3rd line, and hang out in front of the crease. His large body is certainly good for blocking the goalie's view, if nothing else. - JohnScammo
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kindlyrick
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Location: Dallas, TX Joined: 06.21.2007
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Well most on here hated Fili and had a nice season for us. That said if most on here hate either Lou should sign both, they probably have career years - nyisles7
I dont see how you could hate Filpula. He was crafty and potted some big goals to boost the isles. |
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ses111
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Joined: 06.07.2008
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This is posted for you Ses, but a good read for all.
https://theathletic.com/1...-play/?source=weeklyemail
Amazing the ice time that the superstars get in the PO's compared to the reg. season. - nyisles7
Good thing I cannot read these articles. The game seems to be going away from the 4th lines the Isles use. It would have been nice for Casey,mm, or Cal to get one goal in the playoffs and especially during the Canes series when the team really needed it.
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ses111
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Joined: 06.07.2008
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I dont see how you could hate Filpula. He was crafty and potted some big goals to boost the isles. - kindlyrick
I thought Fili had a nice season but not nice enough for a 2 year deal like Wings gave him. |
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nyisles7
New York Islanders |
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Location: Magical Lou, NY Joined: 01.20.2009
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I thought Fili had a nice season but not nice enough for a 2 year deal like Wings gave him. - ses111
Agreed.
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ses111
New York Islanders |
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Joined: 06.07.2008
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Agreed. - nyisles7
No idea what Stevie Y was thinking? Fili has never been the most consistent player and is not getting any younger. |
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nyisles7
New York Islanders |
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Location: Magical Lou, NY Joined: 01.20.2009
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Good thing I cannot read these articles. The game seems to be going away from the 4th lines the Isles use. It would have been nice for Casey,mm, or Cal to get one goal in the playoffs and especially during the Canes series when the team really needed it.
- ses111
Here you go, you need to read it, please.
As Jacqueline Taylor and Jeff Veillette point out, the context is key here. In a Game 7, if you lose, thereâs no tomorrow. Itâs why we see teams throw out everything but the kitchen sink in other professional sports (e.g. Kawhi Leonard playing nearly the entire game against the Philadelphia 76ers before hitting âThe Shotâ or Madison Bumgarner pitching five scoreless innings on two days rest in Game 7 of the World Series).
This got me wondering: what is the right number of minutes to give a star NHL forward in a key playoff game?
Logically, the best players in the world should be getting more ice time in the highest leverage situations (when your season is on the line), so Iâd imagine the right number is much higher than the 18 or 19 minutes per game that Babcock mentioned. Now, this obviously depends on the situation (e.g. Patrice Bergeron should get more minutes than usual in a game where Boston is protecting a one-goal lead, whereas Matthews should see his ice time skyrocket when Toronto needs a goal).
The overall point, though, is that star players should be getting more minutes in situations that matter most (key playoff games) than they do across the other 82 games that donât hold as much value. This sounds obvious when we word it that way, but youâd be surprised at how often star players actually get fewer minutes in these situations.
To help break this down, letâs look at the 10 best forwards (in my opinion) in the NHL over the last three seasons and compare their minutes per game from the regular season to the playoffs. To help adjust for long overtime periods in the playoffs, weâll look at each playerâs percentage of total ice time (TOI%) and multiply it by 60; the number of minutes there should be in a hockey game. This isnât a perfect adjustment, but it does help account for usage in playoff games that go well beyond regulation.
Without further ado, letâs dive into the numbers.
Comparing regular season to playoff usage.
(I couldn't get the chart to copy and paste) Chiefs?
Weâll try to focus on the major trends here rather than the players I excluded on my personal Top 10 list (e.g. I wanted to get Aleksander Barkov in there, but he hasnât played a playoff game in the last three seasons .
My main takeaway is that superstarsâ ice time doesnât change significantly in the NHL playoffs. In fact, when you exclude situations where a team relied almost exclusively on their top line (MacKinnon in Colorado and Hall in New Jersey), the remaining eight players actually averaged a decrease in ice time (from 19.5 minutes in the regular season to 19.2 on average in the playoffs).
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nyisles7
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Location: Magical Lou, NY Joined: 01.20.2009
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No idea what Stevie Y was thinking? Fili has never been the most consistent player and is not getting any younger. - ses111
Free up The Franz from having to check the other teams top line is my guess. I wouldn't have given him 2 years that's for sure but last year he played well for us imho. |
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ses111
New York Islanders |
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Joined: 06.07.2008
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Here you go, you need to read it, please.
As Jacqueline Taylor and Jeff Veillette point out, the context is key here. In a Game 7, if you lose, thereâs no tomorrow. Itâs why we see teams throw out everything but the kitchen sink in other professional sports (e.g. Kawhi Leonard playing nearly the entire game against the Philadelphia 76ers before hitting âThe Shotâ or Madison Bumgarner pitching five scoreless innings on two days rest in Game 7 of the World Series).
This got me wondering: what is the right number of minutes to give a star NHL forward in a key playoff game?
Logically, the best players in the world should be getting more ice time in the highest leverage situations (when your season is on the line), so Iâd imagine the right number is much higher than the 18 or 19 minutes per game that Babcock mentioned. Now, this obviously depends on the situation (e.g. Patrice Bergeron should get more minutes than usual in a game where Boston is protecting a one-goal lead, whereas Matthews should see his ice time skyrocket when Toronto needs a goal).
The overall point, though, is that star players should be getting more minutes in situations that matter most (key playoff games) than they do across the other 82 games that donât hold as much value. This sounds obvious when we word it that way, but youâd be surprised at how often star players actually get fewer minutes in these situations.
To help break this down, letâs look at the 10 best forwards (in my opinion) in the NHL over the last three seasons and compare their minutes per game from the regular season to the playoffs. To help adjust for long overtime periods in the playoffs, weâll look at each playerâs percentage of total ice time (TOI%) and multiply it by 60; the number of minutes there should be in a hockey game. This isnât a perfect adjustment, but it does help account for usage in playoff games that go well beyond regulation.
Without further ado, letâs dive into the numbers.
Comparing regular season to playoff usage.
(I couldn't get the chart to copy and paste) Chiefs?
Weâll try to focus on the major trends here rather than the players I excluded on my personal Top 10 list (e.g. I wanted to get Aleksander Barkov in there, but he hasnât played a playoff game in the last three seasons.
My main takeaway is that superstarsâ ice time doesnât change significantly in the NHL playoffs. In fact, when you exclude situations where a team relied almost exclusively on their top line (MacKinnon in Colorado and Hall in New Jersey), the remaining eight players actually averaged a decrease in ice time (from 19.5 minutes in the regular season to 19.2 on average in the playoffs). - nyisles7
Thank You 7! I still like the idea of top 6 players playing more time in the playoffs. I rather go down with my best. This does not mean the 3rd and 4th lines should not get their time as well. The competition goes way up in the playoffs and it would seem you want top players playing more? |
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ses111
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Joined: 06.07.2008
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Free up The Franz from having to check the other teams top line is my guess. I wouldn't have given him 2 years that's for sure but last year he played well for us imho. - nyisles7
Hard to go against Stevie Y. Fili just seems to have trouble putting up back to back good seasons. |
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JohnScammo
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Location: Coming to a jail near you Joined: 10.14.2014
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Hard to go against Stevie Y. Fili just seems to have trouble putting up back to back good seasons. - ses111
I'm guessing you're basing that comment on his offense. I would argue that Fili is always a good defensive forward; it's just his offense that fluctuates, and that could be attributable in part to who his linemates are. |
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JohnScammo
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Location: Coming to a jail near you Joined: 10.14.2014
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eichiefs9
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Location: NY Joined: 11.03.2008
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Here you go, you need to read it, please.
As Jacqueline Taylor and Jeff Veillette point out, the context is key here. In a Game 7, if you lose, thereâs no tomorrow. Itâs why we see teams throw out everything but the kitchen sink in other professional sports (e.g. Kawhi Leonard playing nearly the entire game against the Philadelphia 76ers before hitting âThe Shotâ or Madison Bumgarner pitching five scoreless innings on two days rest in Game 7 of the World Series).
This got me wondering: what is the right number of minutes to give a star NHL forward in a key playoff game?
Logically, the best players in the world should be getting more ice time in the highest leverage situations (when your season is on the line), so Iâd imagine the right number is much higher than the 18 or 19 minutes per game that Babcock mentioned. Now, this obviously depends on the situation (e.g. Patrice Bergeron should get more minutes than usual in a game where Boston is protecting a one-goal lead, whereas Matthews should see his ice time skyrocket when Toronto needs a goal).
The overall point, though, is that star players should be getting more minutes in situations that matter most (key playoff games) than they do across the other 82 games that donât hold as much value. This sounds obvious when we word it that way, but youâd be surprised at how often star players actually get fewer minutes in these situations.
To help break this down, letâs look at the 10 best forwards (in my opinion) in the NHL over the last three seasons and compare their minutes per game from the regular season to the playoffs. To help adjust for long overtime periods in the playoffs, weâll look at each playerâs percentage of total ice time (TOI%) and multiply it by 60; the number of minutes there should be in a hockey game. This isnât a perfect adjustment, but it does help account for usage in playoff games that go well beyond regulation.
Without further ado, letâs dive into the numbers.
Comparing regular season to playoff usage.
(I couldn't get the chart to copy and paste) Chiefs?
Weâll try to focus on the major trends here rather than the players I excluded on my personal Top 10 list (e.g. I wanted to get Aleksander Barkov in there, but he hasnât played a playoff game in the last three seasons.
My main takeaway is that superstarsâ ice time doesnât change significantly in the NHL playoffs. In fact, when you exclude situations where a team relied almost exclusively on their top line (MacKinnon in Colorado and Hall in New Jersey), the remaining eight players actually averaged a decrease in ice time (from 19.5 minutes in the regular season to 19.2 on average in the playoffs). - nyisles7
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nyisles7
New York Islanders |
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Location: Magical Lou, NY Joined: 01.20.2009
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- JohnScammo
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nyisles7
New York Islanders |
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Location: Magical Lou, NY Joined: 01.20.2009
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nyisles7
New York Islanders |
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Location: Magical Lou, NY Joined: 01.20.2009
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Just a question, how good would Hall look in an Isles Jersey? |
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