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Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Aug 16 @ 3:08 PM ET
Players want changes to escrow.....that could be a big sticking point.
- Fakepartofme


yup.

i'm guessing the owners will want a lower revenue share and salary rollback to change escrow.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Aug 16 @ 3:21 PM ET
maybe get 22 - 25 goals?
- Fakepartofme

Somebody quick, get the definition of the word dominate.

We need to break this word down to a science to really know what he meant.
JSC
Florida Panthers
Location: The Banana Throwing Capital of Canada, London, ON
Joined: 02.29.2008

Aug 16 @ 3:36 PM ET
yup.

i'm guessing the owners will want a lower revenue share and salary rollback to change escrow.

- Tumbleweed


escrow - corn row

Finkle - Einhorn

The circle is complete.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Aug 16 @ 4:20 PM ET
Players want changes to escrow.....that could be a big sticking point.
- Fakepartofme



Agreed but no way they move to a soft cap
doktordave
Joined: 09.18.2005

Aug 16 @ 4:26 PM ET
I'd trade Nylander in a heartbeat given the very weak effort he brought to the team most of last year. Marner is my favorite player to watch, but these contract games are getting old very fast. If he misses camp and pre-season, I think he becomes a risk to get injured. Could very easily be a repeat of Nylander's mistake.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Aug 16 @ 4:33 PM ET
Somebody quick, get the definition of the word dominate.

We need to break this word down to a science to really know what he meant.

- Santo_44


Im sure you'll tell us soon enough
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Aug 16 @ 4:39 PM ET
Lawman, are you around?

I think I answered my own question based on the heading, but how do you interpret the below for caphit? e.g. is the caphit for a 7-year unmatched offersheet aav/5 or is that calc only for draft pick compensation?

10.4 Draft Choice Compensation for Restricted Free Agents.

Any Club that is entitled to but does not exercise its Right of First Refusal pursuant to Section 10.3 shall be entitled to obtain Draft Choice Compensation from the New Club. The number and quality of draft choices due to the Prior Club shall be based on the average annual value of the compensation contained in the Principal Terms of the New Club's Offer Sheet (determined by dividing such compensation by the lesser of the number of years of the Offer Sheet or five),
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Aug 16 @ 4:45 PM ET
Lawman, are you around?

I think I answered my own question based on the heading, but how do you interpret the below for caphit? e.g. is the caphit for a 7-year unmatched offersheet aav/5 or is that calc only for draft pick compensation?

10.4 Draft Choice Compensation for Restricted Free Agents.

Any Club that is entitled to but does not exercise its Right of First Refusal pursuant to Section 10.3 shall be entitled to obtain Draft Choice Compensation from the New Club. The number and quality of draft choices due to the Prior Club shall be based on the average annual value of the compensation contained in the Principal Terms of the New Club's Offer Sheet (determined by dividing such compensation by the lesser of the number of years of the Offer Sheet or five),

- Tumbleweed


Total contract value divided by 5, only for determining compensation

So if they offer 100 million over 7 years, divide 100 million by 5 and that's the AAV that's used to calculate the draft pick compensation
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Aug 16 @ 4:48 PM ET
Total contract value divided by 5.

So if they offer 100 million over 7 years, divide 100 million by 5 and that's the AAV that's used to calculate the draft pick compensation

- TheMussel


You think Marners getting 100 mill over 7 years? Youre f'n crazy.




























*tells everyone Mussel thinks Marners getting 100m over 7 years, for the next 5 years on HB*

- Burn
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Aug 16 @ 4:50 PM ET
Total contract value divided by 5.

So if they offer 100 million over 7 years, divide 100 million by 5 and that's the AAV that's used to calculate the draft pick compensation

- TheMussel


right.

but the actual caphit is still divided by 7?
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Aug 16 @ 5:04 PM ET
right.

but the actual caphit is still divided by 7?

- Tumbleweed

Yes, just the comp is based off div of 5
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Aug 16 @ 5:10 PM ET
Total contract value divided by 5, only for determining compensation

So if they offer 100 million over 7 years, divide 100 million by 5 and that's the AAV that's used to calculate the draft pick compensation

- TheMussel

You must be the smartest Finn around
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Aug 16 @ 5:17 PM ET
You must be the smartest Finn around
- 21peter


The secret is to stay humble. You'll pick up a lot more that way rather than pretending you know everything.

Also I hope you mean around Hockeybuzz because otherwise I am concerned for my countrymen.
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Aug 16 @ 5:34 PM ET
The secret is to stay humble. You'll pick up a lot more that way rather than pretending you know everything.

Also I hope you mean around Hockeybuzz because otherwise I am concerned for my countrymen.

- TheMussel

I'm not sure how to handle this one...

I think I'll just copy EK; more to come...
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Aug 16 @ 5:43 PM ET
I bet Casey Mittlestadt does a better chin-up.
- RickJames77

Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Aug 16 @ 5:52 PM ET
Yes, just the comp is based off div of 5
- Garnie



so hypothetically, marner could sign 10.0x7, 10.6x6 or 11.0x7 and it's all the same compensation.

so someone could get 11.0x7 of marner vs. 4 1sts. seems like close value.

all pie in the sky poop anywho.
The Shrike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 11.17.2007

Aug 16 @ 5:56 PM ET
Autopsy results tor Epstein:

Cause: Hanging
Manner: Suicide
poopstash
Los Angeles Kings
Joined: 03.21.2015

Aug 16 @ 6:11 PM ET
Autopsy results tor Epstein:

Cause: Hanging
Manner: Suicide

- The Shrike


Nah he just went home to his reptilian planet of K’Nar
LeafnsNxt2Godlyns
Location: Matt Stajan still sucks, even in Germany.
Joined: 07.20.2006

Aug 16 @ 6:12 PM ET
Mike Augello: Nylander offers thoughts on contract impasse,Marner
- mikeinbuffalo

The Shrike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 11.17.2007

Aug 16 @ 6:13 PM ET

- LeafnsNxt2Godlyns


Marner's a spotter, not a sniper.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Aug 16 @ 6:20 PM ET
Laine is really good at the hardest thing to do in hockey.
- robin_steele264


GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Aug 16 @ 6:21 PM ET
Who cares what Nylander thinks. Leafs caved on him at zero hour and got 7 goals. =no value. Marner is not McDavid, sorry.
- parmen


So Bill Ny getting his agent to call Dubas at the 11th hour and take less money than he was reportedly asking for, is the Leafs caving?

Oh?
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Aug 16 @ 6:22 PM ET
Autopsy results tor Epstein:

Cause: Hanging
Manner: Suicide

- The Shrike




The Shrike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 11.17.2007

Aug 16 @ 6:23 PM ET

- GreatGigInTheSky


Lightning release though, goalie didn't stand a chance.
The Shrike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 11.17.2007

Aug 16 @ 6:25 PM ET



- GreatGigInTheSky


The fiscal conservative in me appreciates the cost savings achieved by that result.
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