Fakepartofme
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Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON Joined: 09.20.2010
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Yes. He wants what Matthews got. Maybe settles for a smidgen less, but at least 11. - aminnes
anything over 10.5 is too much.
unless its 8 years. |
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PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON Joined: 08.11.2011
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Jake Gardiner is a +9 - senstroll
I know, I know.. Gardiner is a better defenseman than Erik Karlsson
Gardiner +9
Karlsson -30 |
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RickJames77
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Location: We’re Too Old, Boston Joined: 04.03.2013
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That's amazing... Garnie can see your farts? - PatC80
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TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 09.24.2013
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Johnsson-Matthews-Nylander
Hyman-Tavares-Marner
Mikheyev-Kerfoot-Kapanen
Moore-Spezza-Aberg?
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Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 11.30.2009
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Jake Gardiner is a +9 - senstroll
Defensively IMO
Marner - Matthews - Nylander 🤷🏻♂️
But who cares, just an opinion. I’m not sure there’s a real formula to be honest.
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aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB Joined: 12.17.2008
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It would be funny ( sad deep inside ) after all the rah rah we da best Dubas da best was slung by a few in here. - Garnie
Wouldn't be the first time. Good god I've been on here 11 years. FML. |
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Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON Joined: 09.20.2010
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Johnsson-Matthews-Nylander
Hyman-Tavares-Marner
Mikheyev-Kerfoot-Kapanen
Moore-Spezza-Aberg? - TheMussel
Who's aberg? |
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systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Real men always have to poo, ON Joined: 09.12.2007
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Johnsson-Matthews-Nylander
Hyman-Tavares-Marner
Mikheyev-Kerfoot-Kapanen
Moore-Spezza-Aberg? - TheMussel
Marchement or Bracco on 4th line rw! Also hyman will be out so spot open there |
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TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 09.24.2013
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Who's aberg? - Fakepartofme
AkiBerg |
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Guys like Ristolainen, Berglund and O'Reilly, they only lost their passion for hockey because that was management's plan to save Cap space.
The idea is to 'force' players to forgot how to hockey and to hate themselves for being in Buffalo so that management can get rid of them for next to nothing. - PatC80
See: Zaitsev, Nikita |
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aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB Joined: 12.17.2008
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anything over 10.5 is too much.
unless its 8 years. - Fakepartofme
Of course. But Matthews. If he signed for 8 all of this becomes much easier. Now they inflated the perceived value over shorter term and all these big FAs see that. |
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Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: avid reader of the daily douche news Joined: 03.14.2014
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He lead his team for 2 years straight in scoring within 3 4 years of being drafted. - Fakepartofme
matthews has been top 10 in the nhl in Goals/game in years after drafted +1, +2 and +3. Also lead the league in one year in even strength goals. also won the calder.
marner was top 10 in the league in assists/game in year after drafted +4. also outscored mcdavid in the ohl their draft year.
it's not that close. marner shouldn't get paid more than echl, the guy he was correctly drafted behind. |
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PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON Joined: 08.11.2011
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The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 01.29.2008
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Yes. He wants what Matthews got. Maybe settles for a smidgen less, but at least 11. - aminnes
Much earlier in this process the Marner family dupe Dreger reported that Marner and Leafs were still battling and far apart but that none of the numbers started with "11".
Dreger had been the Marner hype man up to that point "mathews money" "respect" ....clearly just relaying Ferris' position. Which is totally fine. But when the hype man comes out and retracts/clarifies the demand is less than speculated that's a really good sign that it's all bs.
Remember we were told Willie wanted 8.5. Marner's side knows all the stats and comps that we're tossing around. This is negotiation. I'd start with 11 in the hopes of getting 10 too. |
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Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON Joined: 09.20.2010
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AkiBerg - TheMussel
ah nuts.
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PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON Joined: 08.11.2011
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See: Zaitsev, Nikita - RippedFuel
Dubas is still young, he needs time to develop the Buffalo model |
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Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 11.30.2009
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Wouldn't be the first time. Good god I've been on here 11 years. FML. - aminnes
I use my phone so much now, I can’t remember how long I’ve been on here.
Too (frank)ing long though |
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senstroll
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Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON Joined: 02.22.2008
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Defensively IMO
Marner - Matthews - Nylander 🤷🏻♂️
But who cares, just an opinion. I’m not sure there’s a real formula to be honest. - Garnie
im just looking at on ice goals/shots against and stuff like that.
taking my biases out of it... Nylander looks better than the other 2 |
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Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: avid reader of the daily douche news Joined: 03.14.2014
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Not at all considered a savior...hes basicallly just shaping up the 3rd pairing. I think we both know we are all set in franchise defensemen...thanks. - RippedFuel
except for the 40 games bogo will be injured for. |
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aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB Joined: 12.17.2008
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Much earlier in this process the Marner family dupe Dreger reported that Marner and Leafs were still battling and far apart but that none of the numbers started with "11".
Dreger had been the Marner hype man up to that point "mathews money" "respect" ....clearly just relaying Ferris' position. Which is totally fine. But when the hype man comes out and retracts/clarifies the demand is less than speculated that's a really good sign that it's all bs.
Remember we were told Willie wanted 8.5. Marner's side knows all the stats and comps that we're tossing around. This is negotiation. I'd start with 11 in the hopes of getting 10 too. - The Law
Could very well be. |
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TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 09.24.2013
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im just looking at on ice goals/shots against and stuff like that.
taking my biases out of it... Nylander looks better than the other 2 - senstroll
Nylander's neutral zone play is overlooked. Often turns it over and back the other way. |
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The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 01.29.2008
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Of course. But Matthews. If he signed for 8 all of this becomes much easier. Now they inflated the perceived value over shorter term and all these big FAs see that. - aminnes
Maybe a bit ....but AM's contract comes in slightly more than Stamkos' 5 yr post-ELC contract and slightly less than Malkins 5 yr post-ELC. It was a little high but there was precedent. |
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Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: avid reader of the daily douche news Joined: 03.14.2014
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So, we are just ignoring that Matthews missed 20 games due to injury and finished with 63 points.
Whereas, Marner finished with 69 points but played in all 82 games? - PatC80
yes.
marner lead the team in scoring. fact.
also a fact: marner outscored mcdavid in their draft year and actually deserves 12.5M over 8 years. Just ask Team Marner Chief Negotiator, Paul Marner.
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GOLEAFS71
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Location: AB Joined: 08.09.2013
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Not at all considered a savior...hes basicallly just shaping up the 3rd pairing. I think we both know we are all set in franchise defensemen...thanks. - RippedFuel
I’m sure he’ll lose his love of the game soon. He’ll be moving on in no time. |
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JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC Joined: 01.14.2011
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Much earlier in this process the Marner family dupe Dreger reported that Marner and Leafs were still battling and far apart but that none of the numbers started with "11".
Dreger had been the Marner hype man up to that point "mathews money" "respect" ....clearly just relaying Ferris' position. Which is totally fine. But when the hype man comes out and retracts/clarifies the demand is less than speculated that's a really good sign that it's all bs.
Remember we were told Willie wanted 8.5. Marner's side knows all the stats and comps that we're tossing around. This is negotiation. I'd start with 11 in the hopes of getting 10 too. - The Law
Way too many people not smart enough to figure that out. But you did. Good job. |
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