He has 240 goals to go

6 more 40 goal seasons
- jcragcrumple

That's with losing a season and a half of his career due to work stoppage. Hes pretty unreal. 5 more 50 goal seasons and hes there. It's actually possible... amazingly

There was 1 20g defenseman in the NHL this year. 55 points was #10 in the league.

If he puts up 55, I don't really care how many goals he scores. It would be a great 2nd year.
- Lunaion

How dare you think reasonably. If Dahlin doesn't get 40 goals this year, he's a bust.

Putin will accidentally poison him before he gets the record.
- jochfr

And then blame "The Americans".

Putin will accidentally poison him before he gets the record.
- jochfr

Dude is a beast in his own right. No one can touch him

That's with losing a season and a half of his career due to work stoppage. Hes pretty unreal. 5 more 50 goal seasons and hes there. It's actually possible... amazingly
- TheHank

I agree, ov is somehow still underrated

But no one is ever going to score 200 points in a season because the game is different.

91-92 Detroit Red Wings
GP W L T PTS PTS% GF GA
80 43 25 12 98 .613 320 256

2018-19 Sabres
GP W L OL PTS PTS% GF GA
82 33 39 10 76 .463 221 268


Apples to Apples??
- Bufsaints8

So you're saying if Dahlin played better, maybe the Sabres record could have been closer to that year for the Wings?
Tall task, but ok, I see where you're going with iy.

I agree, ov is somehow still underrated

But no one is ever going to score 200 points in a season because the game is different.
- jcragcrumple

If he was playing is the 80s who knows how many goals he would've scored.... I'd guess he would've averaged 100 per season.
Dahlin still sucks because orr scored more goals as a rookie though.

So you're saying if Dahlin played better, maybe the Sabres record could have been closer to that year for the Wings?
Tall task, but ok, I see where you're going with iy.
- IonSabres

The stats show that the 91-92 Red Wings TEAM was a far better one and scored 100 more goals than the 2018-19 Sabres. That is all.

The stats show that the 91-92 Red Wings TEAM was a far better one and scored 100 more goals than the 2018-19 Sabres. That is all.
- Bufsaints8

Just F'ng with ya.
I love Dahlin, played great for an 18 YO rookie. He has plenty of room for improvement, and I'm high on him achieving terrific results.
I'd really like to see Jokiharju next to him for about 10 games, and then Miller for 10 just to see what those combos looks like

1. who reads the paper anymore?

2. where did I say yeldon was better then singletary , NEVER DID


shady won't be here next year
gore won't be here next year


if you think they are going with singletary and rb's not on the roster in 2020, it's your opinion

2 snaps in preseason does not trump a month worth of training camp, and yeldon was brought in to be a 3rd down back and 2 minute rb

nothing more, nothing less
- homiedclown

U really think the lack of RBs signed in the long term will be be a factor on whether or not Yeldon is kept now?
I really don’t see how that matters

They can easily draft another RB and bring in a UFA next year

Yeldon is nothing special
There’s plenty of “Yeldons” (or better) available every year

I think if they keep him,
it’s bc they like him as the “pass catching back” and then we see Gore cut
*seems like McCoy & Singletary are locks

If he was playing is the 80s who knows how many goals he would've scored.... I'd guess he would've averaged 100 per season.
Dahlin still sucks because orr scored more goals as a rookie though.
- TheHank

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- Boss34

I take it the F is an abbreviation and the U is a word all in itself?
Good work soldier.

look it up yourself if you don't believe me


- homiedclown

Or u could just Lmk so i don’t have to waste the time?

Seems to me like that’s a rarity that teams play 4 RH defensemen on a nightly basis,
and not that “many teams” are doing so

*i’ve seen it many times with 4 LH defensemen in the lineup, just not RH
That’s why i asked who?

Just F'ng with ya.
I love Dahlin, played great for an 18 YO rookie. He has plenty of room for improvement, and I'm high on him achieving terrific results.
I'd really like to see Jokiharju next to him for about 10 games, and then Miller for 10 just to see what those combos looks like
- IonSabres

I agree 100%. I can see him and Joker down the road being a very solid long term top pair for this team if Joker pans out. Miller might be the best fit for him in the short term.

Reason to not spend much time on Cap Friendly

Burgeron + Marchand + Pasternak = 19.7mil per
Eichel + Skinner = 19.0mil per

I realize that Boston signed those guys to long term deals before this recent salary boom
But holy crap
No wonders they can afford to scratch Backes

Power play points don’t count, and secondary assists don’t count either.
- PrinceChill

Only Corsi & Corsi related stats are meaningful
😂😂😂

Sorry ahead of time.

Here are the numbers of the top point getting defenders and their first few years in the league. I think Dahlin was right on projection. If you think he under performed, I am not sure if it was underestimated how quickly defensemen join the NHL after draft.

Brent Burns - 83 points - 34 years old - 6p in 36g rookie year (18 years old), second year 16p in 72g

Mark Giordano - 74 points - 35 years old - 1p in first 7g rookie year (21 years old), second year 15p in 48g

Morgan Rielly - 72 points - 25 years old - 27p in 73g rookie year (19 years old), 29p in 82g second year

John Carlson - 70 points - 29 years old - 6p in 22g rookie year (19 years old), 37p in 82g second year

Keith Yandle - 62 points - 32 years old - 2p in 7g rookie year (19 years old), 12p in 43g second year

Erik Gustafsson - 60 points - 27 years old - 14p in 41g rookie year (21 years old), 16p in 35g second year

Tyson Barrie - 59 points - 28 years old - 0p in 10g rookie year (20 years old), 13p in 32g second year

Kris Letang - 56 points - 32 years old - 2p in 7g rookie year (19 years old), 17p in 63g second year

Roman Josi - 56 points - 29 years old - 16p in 52g rookie year (21 years old), 18p in 48g second year

Thomas Chabot - 55 points - 22 years old - 0p in 1g rookie year (19 years old), 25p in 63g second year

Victor Hedman - 54 points - 28 years old - 20p in 74g rookie year (18 years old), 26p in 79g second year

Torey Krug - 53 points - 28 years old - 1p in 2g rookie year (20 years old), 1p in 1g second year, 40p on 79g third year (23 years old)

Jacob Trouba - 50 points - 25 years old - 29p in 65g rookie year (19 years old), 22p in 65g second year

Ryan Suter - 47 points - 34 years old - 16p in 71g rookie year (20 years old), 24p in 82g second year

Jeff Petry - 46 points - 31 years old - 5p in 35g rookie year (22 years old), 25p in 73g second year

Ryan McDonagh - 46 points - 30 years old - 9p in 40g rookie year (21 years old), 32p in 82g second year

Seth Jones - 46 points - 24 years old - 25p in 77g rookie year (18 years old), 27p in 82g second year

John Klingberg - 45 points - 26 years old - 40p in 65g rookie year (22 years old), 58p in1 76g second year

Drew Doughty - 45 points - 29 years old - 27p in 81g rookie year (18 years old), 59p in 82g second year

Erik Karlsson - 45 points - 29 years old - 26p in 60g rookie year (19 years old), 45p in 75g second year

Oliver Ekman-Larsson - 44 points - 28 years old - 11p in 48g rookie year (19 years old), 32p in 82g second year

Zach Werenski - 44 points - 22 years old - 47p in 78g rookie year (19 years old), 37p in 77g second year

Rasmus Dahlin - 44 points - 18 years old - 44p in 82g rookie year (18 years old)

Mattias Ekholm - 44 points - 29 years old - 0p in 2g rookie year (20 years old), 32p in 59g second year

Sorry ahead of time.

Here are the numbers of the top point getting defenders and their first few years in the league. I think Dahlin was right on projection. If you think he under performed, I am not sure if it was underestimated how quickly defensemen join the NHL after draft.

Brent Burns - 83 points - 34 years old - 6p in 36g rookie year (18 years old), second year 16p in 72g

Mark Giordano - 74 points - 35 years old - 1p in first 7g rookie year (21 years old), second year 15p in 48g

Morgan Rielly - 72 points - 25 years old - 27p in 73g rookie year (19 years old), 29p in 82g second year

John Carlson - 70 points - 29 years old - 6p in 22g rookie year (19 years old), 37p in 82g second year

Keith Yandle - 62 points - 32 years old - 2p in 7g rookie year (19 years old), 12p in 43g second year

Erik Gustafsson - 60 points - 27 years old - 14p in 41g rookie year (21 years old), 16p in 35g second year

Tyson Barrie - 59 points - 28 years old - 0p in 10g rookie year (20 years old), 13p in 32g second year

Kris Letang - 56 points - 32 years old - 2p in 7g rookie year (19 years old), 17p in 63g second year

Roman Josi - 56 points - 29 years old - 16p in 52g rookie year (21 years old), 18p in 48g second year

Thomas Chabot - 55 points - 22 years old - 0p in 1g rookie year (19 years old), 25p in 63g second year

Victor Hedman - 54 points - 28 years old - 20p in 74g rookie year (18 years old), 26p in 79g second year

Torey Krug - 53 points - 28 years old - 1p in 2g rookie year (20 years old), 1p in 1g second year, 40p on 79g third year (23 years old)

Jacob Trouba - 50 points - 25 years old - 29p in 65g rookie year (19 years old), 22p in 65g second year

Ryan Suter - 47 points - 34 years old - 16p in 71g rookie year (20 years old), 24p in 82g second year

Jeff Petry - 46 points - 31 years old - 5p in 35g rookie year (22 years old), 25p in 73g second year

Ryan McDonagh - 46 points - 30 years old - 9p in 40g rookie year (21 years old), 32p in 82g second year

Seth Jones - 46 points - 24 years old - 25p in 77g rookie year (18 years old), 27p in 82g second year

John Klingberg - 45 points - 26 years old - 40p in 65g rookie year (22 years old), 58p in1 76g second year

Drew Doughty - 45 points - 29 years old - 27p in 81g rookie year (18 years old), 59p in 82g second year

Erik Karlsson - 45 points - 29 years old - 26p in 60g rookie year (19 years old), 45p in 75g second year

Oliver Ekman-Larsson - 44 points - 28 years old - 11p in 48g rookie year (19 years old), 32p in 82g second year

Zach Werenski - 44 points - 22 years old - 47p in 78g rookie year (19 years old), 37p in 77g second year

Rasmus Dahlin - 44 points - 18 years old - 44p in 82g rookie year (18 years old)

Mattias Ekholm - 44 points - 29 years old - 0p in 2g rookie year (20 years old), 32p in 59g second year
- Lilroot9

You should be sorry!
This is erroneous blasphemy!
Show us a hype chart next time!

Sorry ahead of time.

Here are the numbers of the top point getting defenders and their first few years in the league. I think Dahlin was right on projection. If you think he under performed, I am not sure if it was underestimated how quickly defensemen join the NHL after draft.

Brent Burns - 83 points - 34 years old - 6p in 36g rookie year (18 years old), second year 16p in 72g

...

Rasmus Dahlin - 44 points - 18 years old - 44p in 82g rookie year (18 years old)

Mattias Ekholm - 44 points - 29 years old - 0p in 2g rookie year (20 years old), 32p in 59g second year
- Lilroot9

via GIPHY

https://www.sabrespace.co...he-sabres-best-prospects/

Sorry ahead of time.

Here are the numbers of the top point getting defenders and their first few years in the league. I think Dahlin was right on projection. If you think he under performed, I am not sure if it was underestimated how quickly defensemen join the NHL after draft.

Brent Burns - 83 points - 34 years old - 6p in 36g rookie year (18 years old), second year 16p in 72g

Mark Giordano - 74 points - 35 years old - 1p in first 7g rookie year (21 years old), second year 15p in 48g

Morgan Rielly - 72 points - 25 years old - 27p in 73g rookie year (19 years old), 29p in 82g second year

John Carlson - 70 points - 29 years old - 6p in 22g rookie year (19 years old), 37p in 82g second year

Keith Yandle - 62 points - 32 years old - 2p in 7g rookie year (19 years old), 12p in 43g second year

Erik Gustafsson - 60 points - 27 years old - 14p in 41g rookie year (21 years old), 16p in 35g second year

Tyson Barrie - 59 points - 28 years old - 0p in 10g rookie year (20 years old), 13p in 32g second year

Kris Letang - 56 points - 32 years old - 2p in 7g rookie year (19 years old), 17p in 63g second year

Roman Josi - 56 points - 29 years old - 16p in 52g rookie year (21 years old), 18p in 48g second year

Thomas Chabot - 55 points - 22 years old - 0p in 1g rookie year (19 years old), 25p in 63g second year

Victor Hedman - 54 points - 28 years old - 20p in 74g rookie year (18 years old), 26p in 79g second year

Torey Krug - 53 points - 28 years old - 1p in 2g rookie year (20 years old), 1p in 1g second year, 40p on 79g third year (23 years old)

Jacob Trouba - 50 points - 25 years old - 29p in 65g rookie year (19 years old), 22p in 65g second year

Ryan Suter - 47 points - 34 years old - 16p in 71g rookie year (20 years old), 24p in 82g second year

Jeff Petry - 46 points - 31 years old - 5p in 35g rookie year (22 years old), 25p in 73g second year

Ryan McDonagh - 46 points - 30 years old - 9p in 40g rookie year (21 years old), 32p in 82g second year

Seth Jones - 46 points - 24 years old - 25p in 77g rookie year (18 years old), 27p in 82g second year

John Klingberg - 45 points - 26 years old - 40p in 65g rookie year (22 years old), 58p in1 76g second year

Drew Doughty - 45 points - 29 years old - 27p in 81g rookie year (18 years old), 59p in 82g second year

Erik Karlsson - 45 points - 29 years old - 26p in 60g rookie year (19 years old), 45p in 75g second year

Oliver Ekman-Larsson - 44 points - 28 years old - 11p in 48g rookie year (19 years old), 32p in 82g second year

Zach Werenski - 44 points - 22 years old - 47p in 78g rookie year (19 years old), 37p in 77g second year

Rasmus Dahlin - 44 points - 18 years old - 44p in 82g rookie year (18 years old)

Mattias Ekholm - 44 points - 29 years old - 0p in 2g rookie year (20 years old), 32p in 59g second year
- Lilroot9

This post lives up to the hype

Sorry ahead of time.

Here are the numbers of the top point getting defenders and their first few years in the league. I think Dahlin was right on projection. If you think he under performed, I am not sure if it was underestimated how quickly defensemen join the NHL after draft.

Brent Burns - 83 points - 34 years old - 6p in 36g rookie year (18 years old), second year 16p in 72g

Mark Giordano - 74 points - 35 years old - 1p in first 7g rookie year (21 years old), second year 15p in 48g

Morgan Rielly - 72 points - 25 years old - 27p in 73g rookie year (19 years old), 29p in 82g second year

John Carlson - 70 points - 29 years old - 6p in 22g rookie year (19 years old), 37p in 82g second year

Keith Yandle - 62 points - 32 years old - 2p in 7g rookie year (19 years old), 12p in 43g second year

Erik Gustafsson - 60 points - 27 years old - 14p in 41g rookie year (21 years old), 16p in 35g second year

Tyson Barrie - 59 points - 28 years old - 0p in 10g rookie year (20 years old), 13p in 32g second year

Kris Letang - 56 points - 32 years old - 2p in 7g rookie year (19 years old), 17p in 63g second year

Roman Josi - 56 points - 29 years old - 16p in 52g rookie year (21 years old), 18p in 48g second year

Thomas Chabot - 55 points - 22 years old - 0p in 1g rookie year (19 years old), 25p in 63g second year

Victor Hedman - 54 points - 28 years old - 20p in 74g rookie year (18 years old), 26p in 79g second year

Torey Krug - 53 points - 28 years old - 1p in 2g rookie year (20 years old), 1p in 1g second year, 40p on 79g third year (23 years old)

Jacob Trouba - 50 points - 25 years old - 29p in 65g rookie year (19 years old), 22p in 65g second year

Ryan Suter - 47 points - 34 years old - 16p in 71g rookie year (20 years old), 24p in 82g second year

Jeff Petry - 46 points - 31 years old - 5p in 35g rookie year (22 years old), 25p in 73g second year

Ryan McDonagh - 46 points - 30 years old - 9p in 40g rookie year (21 years old), 32p in 82g second year

Seth Jones - 46 points - 24 years old - 25p in 77g rookie year (18 years old), 27p in 82g second year

John Klingberg - 45 points - 26 years old - 40p in 65g rookie year (22 years old), 58p in1 76g second year

Drew Doughty - 45 points - 29 years old - 27p in 81g rookie year (18 years old), 59p in 82g second year

Erik Karlsson - 45 points - 29 years old - 26p in 60g rookie year (19 years old), 45p in 75g second year

Oliver Ekman-Larsson - 44 points - 28 years old - 11p in 48g rookie year (19 years old), 32p in 82g second year

Zach Werenski - 44 points - 22 years old - 47p in 78g rookie year (19 years old), 37p in 77g second year

Rasmus Dahlin - 44 points - 18 years old - 44p in 82g rookie year (18 years old)

Mattias Ekholm - 44 points - 29 years old - 0p in 2g rookie year (20 years old), 32p in 59g second year
- Lilroot9

Point I have made several times. Only Housley and Orr had better rookie years as an 18year old Defensemen

Point I have made several times. Only Housley and Orr had better rookie years as an 18year old Defensemen
- lulags

Was housley playing wing sometimes that year too?

Was housley playing wing sometimes that year too?
- jcragcrumple

He may have. I didn’t get to watch many back then since I only got CBC English and French. Had to wait until we played the Canadiens or Leafs

He may have. I didn’t get to watch many back then since I only got CBC English and French. Had to wait until we played the Canadiens or Leafs
- lulags

I recall he played a few games at wing during his rookie season.

Housley began his NHL career with Buffalo in 1982. The 6th overall draft pick from 1982 skipped college and went straight from high school to the NHL without missing a beat. In his rookie season he scored 19 goals and 66 points by as a defenseman. There was no sophomore jinx for Housley, as he improved to an incredible 31 goals and 77 points in season two. He did spend some time playing left wing however.

http://sabreslegends.blog...2012/12/phil-housley.html