Here's the original load of crap:

James Cybulski on Twitter:
Heard over the weekend that #Canucks & #Blackhawks had discussed swapping the 3rd and 10th overall picks so Vancouver could jump up to get Bowen Byram, but Chicago wanted Van to take D Brent Seabrook and the remaining 5 years/$6.875M AAV on his contract. Thus the deal died.

So first, tell which team selecting in a draft #3 overall is gonna drop to ten, even if they know "their guy" is there?

You can try to delineate and say the thickness of the last draft class was real, but NO ONE sees the ten pick and the Seabrook dump (and remember this horsefeathers trade idea has to be with his blessings too!) as equal is dreaming....
Yo want some that high to sell the pick, you get a pick back in the next year that is defined to be close to THREE or you simply don't do it.
- wiz1901

He created the context by saying Seabrook is toxic. I think everyone agrees Seabrook's contract is awful.
- paulr

Well he clarified it in his last post by saying Seabrook himself is toxic....

I took his original post as being Seabrook is viewed as a toxic asset in the trade market, which is true do to his contract.

Calling Seabrook, as an individual, toxic is no bueno.

Seabrooks contract in no way impedes this teams shot at a Cup run or two the next three years.

This is kind of a dumb argument at this point.

With an improved pk and goaltending they will be in the playoffs even if they are one of the worst defensive teams in the league again.

With the amount of guys they have that can score, and with very good goaltending they can win a round or two this year.

They're really not in a bad spot considering how much parity there is in the league. Talent is very diluted even a marginal increase in the hawks roster quality is going to look like a barn burning success.
- fattybeef

One could argue it could impede them but the Hawks seem to have enough cheap young talent coming that it shouldn't hurt too much.

We can agree the term and hit are less than ideal. Honestly, if Stan played hardball and Seabs agreed we are looking at what 1-2 mil less of a cap hit and maybe 2 years off the back end? 2 mil isn't going to be that big an impact on this teams ability to win.

If Stan let Seabs walk fans would have raised hell.....

Well he clarified it in his last post by saying Seabrook himself is toxic....

I took his original post as being Seabrook is viewed as a toxic asset in the trade market, which is true do to his contract.

Calling Seabrook, as an individual, toxic is no bueno.
- bhawks2241

You stuck by your client like a good defense attorney, until his own words made the case unwinnable! Good effort.

From what I understand Lehner was offered two years @ $5m but he wanted more term.
- walleyeb1

Another good year and it will be much more than $5m for any term.

Another good year and it will be much more than $5m for any term.
- rpeters01

Top paid goalies this year are Price 10.5M, Bobrovsky 10M, Lundqvist 8.5M, Rask 7M, and Fleury 7M. Next year Vasilevsky starts earning 9.5M. What do they have in common? They have a Cup or a Vezina on their resume.

Lehner doesn't have either or the body of work. Even with a good upcoming season, I think he'll be in the 6 or 6.5M range.

Just watched the final ‘On the Clock’ video that the Blackhawks put out, and there was an interesting nugget in there at the draft between Kelley/Stan where Stan tells Kelley that he didn’t receive a single offer from anyone to trade up to 3. Those picks are truly premium picks, so it wouldn’t make any sense for any team to even bother making proposals without offering the house.
- TommyHawk

Any strong draft that is how it goes.
Wiz has said so too

I am hopeful and expecting that the addition of Dach plus one more big size ornery top six forward (ideally derive 2020 #1) WITH emergence of the skillful quick kids on defense, will follow an increase in team scoring.

The development of kids and their success on bottom two lines is also critical. Rolling four lines and the ability to swap out bottom line players to top two lines for spot duty is in the foreseeable future. Next season is clearly huge for a whole lot of players to continue to develop well.

Wow if long term a Gus or Kyrs is able to hold a third pair job. I believe one way or another each pairing two years and for a decade thereafter will have good puck moving and offensive capability. In turn when our bottom lines are better than the opponents, we will outplay teams! My guess though is Gus is traded and Kyrs needs TWO seasons AHL.

Lehner probably the goaltender to carry load in net after next season. Not only Perlini but also Sikura and both Koekkoek/Dahlstrom could (emphsis "could") carve out a nice nhl role.

There is no reason to assume that Colliton and or M Crawford cannot coach well. Some here on board want only priven winners to ciach and let their imaginatiin carry them into frenzied biased. not supported claims of doom and gloom from this coaching. Next season the coaching will show complainers were overboard.

You stuck by your client like a good defense attorney, until his own words made the case unwinnable! Good effort.
- mohel

Well I am an attorney. So by nature that is how I operate

Top paid goalies this year are Price 10.5M, Bobrovsky 10M, Lundqvist 8.5M, Rask 7M, and Fleury 7M. Next year Vasilevsky starts earning 9.5M. What do they have in common? They have a Cup or a Vezina on their resume.

Lehner doesn't have either or the body of work. Even with a good upcoming season, I think he'll be in the 6 or 6.5M range.
- boilermaker100

Well maybe the plan is for him to split with Crow. The Hawks brass sees enough in him offer a contract with some term and use the fact he was a back-up to keep the AVV down.....

Top paid goalies this year are Price 10.5M, Bobrovsky 10M, Lundqvist 8.5M, Rask 7M, and Fleury 7M. Next year Vasilevsky starts earning 9.5M. What do they have in common? They have a Cup or a Vezina on their resume.

Lehner doesn't have either or the body of work. Even with a good upcoming season, I think he'll be in the 6 or 6.5M range.
- boilermaker100

If he has a decent year with a pretty even split of net time with Crow, I could see a 6x6.

Well maybe the plan is for him to split with Crow. The Hawks brass sees enough in him offer a contract with some term and use the fact he was a back-up to keep the AVV down.....
- bhawks2241

Agree with that. He may or may not be the back up ,by the end of the season but I bet the Hawks are hoping he will replace Cro as the future #1.,

If he has a decent year with a pretty even split of net time with Crow, I could see a 6x6.
- walleyeb1

We're on the same page.

If he has a decent year with a pretty even split of net time with Crow, I could see a 6x6.
- walleyeb1

He will never sign for $6 with Chicago. Either more or $0. If he's good, the "discount" will be closer to $7.5. If he's not good it will be $0 and move on. There will for sure be other bidders if he has another good year.

He will never sign for $6 with Chicago. Either more or $0. If he's good, the "discount" will be closer to $7.5. If he's not good it will be $0 and move on. There will for sure be other bidders if he has another good year.
- rpeters01

Ben Bishop 6x$4.9 signed 2017
Devan Dubnyk 6X$4.33 signed 2015

If Lehner has another good year, I would use these for comparison, adjusted for how much the cap has gone up since they signed.

He will never sign for $6 with Chicago. Either more or $0. If he's good, the "discount" will be closer to $7.5. If he's not good it will be $0 and move on. There will for sure be other bidders if he has another good year.
- rpeters01

Neither of us are in his head. Based on the skeletons in his closet, he may be happy for a long term contract at 6 or 6.5M.

He was offered that by the Islander 2X5, but they quickly turned to Varlamov when Lehner took too long in the Isles opinion to accept the contract
- LAHawk

I have a feeling that Crawford told the Blackhawks that he is done at the end of his current contract. How else do they get Lehner to sign with them for only one year when he wanted term? I can imagine Crawford told him that he is done, and that it is Lehners net if he takes it. So the hawks offer Lehner one year and tell Lehner that if he plays as well this year as he did last year, then they will give him a long term contract. I just can't really see any other scenario where Lehner signs with the Hawks. Of course there could be other information that we don't know...

One could argue it could impede them but the Hawks seem to have enough cheap young talent coming that it shouldn't hurt too much.

We can agree the term and hit are less than ideal. Honestly, if Stan played hardball and Seabs agreed we are looking at what 1-2 mil less of a cap hit and maybe 2 years off the back end? 2 mil isn't going to be that big an impact on this teams ability to win.

If Stan let Seabs walk fans would have raised hell.....
- bhawks2241

The term in the biggest problem.

Ben Bishop 6x$4.9 signed 2017
Devan Dubnyk 6X$4.33 signed 2015

If Lehner has another good year, I would use these for comparison, adjusted for how much the cap has gone up since they signed.
- LAHawk

I would bet that Lehner would love geographically centrally located Chicsgo, maybe the city and team too as they look to be on an upswing. He won't ask for the moon; just a fair deal. Could that be $7.25 mill × 6 with first three years guaranteed and a modified nmc (no movement clause).

Neither of us are in his head. Based on the skeletons in his closet, he may be happy for a long term contract at 6 or 6.5M.
- boilermaker100

I think it is going to be 6x $7 if he does well.

I think it is going to be 6x $7 if he does well.
- ToewsdNKanefusd

Take it Stan
Three youngsters as back ups next couple seasons or more (if Gravel develops). Fixed cost.

I think it is going to be 6x $7 if he does well.
- ToewsdNKanefusd

That's a lot of money and term for Crawford.

I would bet that Lehner would love geographically centrally located Chicsgo, maybe the city and team too as they look to be on an upswing. He won't ask for the moon; just a fair deal. Could that be $7.25 mill × 6 with first three years guaranteed and a modified nmc (no movement clause).
- jhawk59

And is Swedish, we know how Blackhawks fans take to their Swedish hockey players.

The term in the biggest problem.
- fattybeef

IF the cap goes up dramatically in a couple of years after the new TV contract Seabs' cap hit over the last remaining few years of his contract will be less relevant.

It was well reported regarding Chicago and Vancouver, 3rd overall pick , seabrook was willing to waive his NMC for Vancouver and only Vancouver.

I never said Seabrook personally was toxic , I was crystal clear his play, age , term ,salary make him toxic to any team regarding a trade, nothing about his character .

People around here pick and chose speech they disagree with and over think and analyze words or try to put words into other people's mouths .

I don't care what you what you want to call his contract , salary , decline in play etc but let's be honest here , don't read into or over think and analyze my words.
- Taylorst1

Dude, get a grip... here's your exact quote, "His contract is toxic , which makes him toxic.". So you did publicly state Seabrook is a toxic human being. Or perhaps you are just trolling for fun tonight???

Paulr and IamtheBreadman's initial posts to you were an excellent summary view of Seabrook, you might do well to go back and reread their thoughts.

I would bet that Lehner would love geographically centrally located Chicsgo, maybe the city and team too as they look to be on an upswing. He won't ask for the moon; just a fair deal. Could that be $7.25 mill × 6 with first three years guaranteed and a modified nmc (no movement clause).
- jhawk59

All years are guaranteed in the NHL.