What would you describe a 35 year old , declining 7million dollar player , whom no team wants ? Stan offered a 3rd overall pick and couldn't trade Seabrook.

His contract is toxic , which makes him toxic. I'm sorry if you don't like those words to describe facts , but I'm not about to play pc with my words to appease people's feelings.
- Taylorst1

you seem to have trouble discerning the difference between an agreement (contract) and living breathing human being. Care to elaborate?

September will be an interesting month.

On 9/1, the NHL owners can choose to opt out of the CBA.

On 9/15, the NHLPA can choose to opt out of the CBA.

Here comes the rest of the posse
- Ogilthorpe2

What posse? I don’t agree with most of what that posters says but his/her Seabrook comment is being taken out of context.

you seem to have trouble discerning the difference between an agreement (contract) and living breathing human being. Care to elaborate?
- bogiedoc

Well I don’t agree that Seabs himself is toxic. By all accounts he’s a great teammate and good human being. Contract being toxic doesn’t make the person toxic.

September will be an interesting month.

On 9/1, the NHL owners can choose to opt out of the CBA.

On 9/15, the NHLPA can choose to opt out of the CBA.
- Return of the Roar

If I'm the players I'm opting out. Especially because if the owner don't opt out it says they think they have a good deal which they do. The BS with the escrow based on CAN$ means the players never see their real contract amount anyway. The Cap goes up less than inflation - nowhere near 3% per year.
But I suspect the two sides will have already discussed what they are going to do, settle, walkout or lockout.

No what your doing is making it personal , because your trying to control my speech and over think and analyze things. Seabrook represents his contract , it's not about his character so please don't put words into my mouth or tell me I have to think or speak a certain way.
- Taylorst1

Lol, who told you what to think? Many have simply replied that what you think is goofy. Don't tell them what to think.

What posse? I don’t agree with most of what that posters says but his/her Seabrook comment is being taken out of context.
- bhawks2241

He created the context by saying Seabrook is toxic. I think everyone agrees Seabrook's contract is awful.

Lol, who told you what to think? Many have simply replied that what you think is goofy. Don't tell them what to think.
- mohel

Apparently I told him what to think Pallie.

Can we please all agree "Seabrook the person" is not toxic...

Do you have a cite? You alleged the Hawks offered the 3rd pick with Seabrook. Back it up.
- mohel

The rumor was never confirmed, but it was initially reported in Vancouver by sports radio guy named James Cybulski on Twitter.

The rumor was never confirmed, but it was initially reported in Vancouver by sports radio guy named James Cybulski on Twitter.
- gmurban

Twitter is a fountain of accuracy.

The rumor was never confirmed, but it was initially reported in Vancouver by sports radio guy named James Cybulski on Twitter.
- gmurban

Everything on Twitter is true, our President tweets all the time...

Twitter is a fountain of accuracy.
- I Am The Breadman

The problem with quotes on the Internet is that it is hard to verify their authenticity."
~ Abraham Lincoln

Would anyone know what the buyout break down for Seabrook's contract would be? Plus would help the hawks or hurt them short term or long term?

The problem with quotes on the Internet is that it is hard to verify their authenticity."
~ Abraham Lincoln
- paulr

If Al Gore invented it, IT HAS TO BE CORRECT!


oh sorry i forgot the red font.

Would anyone know what the buyout break down for Seabrook's contract would be? Plus would help the hawks or hurt them short term or long term?
- Scott1977

Capfriendly has a buyout calculator- like the contract itself, it's really ugly and not a viable option, IMO.

Capfriendly has a buyout calculator- like the contract itself, it's really ugly and not a viable option, IMO.
- Davewn

No it saves nothing, way bonuses are structured and he's over 35. Cap Friendly has it I don't remember the specifics.

Regarding Strome: if he has the year we expect his last two ELC years will be nearly identical to Brandon Saad's last two ELC years. We all know Saad pulled $6M five years ago and wasn't a Center. Call Strome ~$7 x something next contract... I think $15M is exactly where Strome and DeBrinkat come in.

Regarding Lehner: Elite goalies in their prime are ~$10 now, sorry but true. If he's as good as advertised $8 x something will be a discount. Anyway it won't be $6M it will be $0M before it's $6. That would mean something went wrong he sucked or had problems...
- rpeters01

From what I understand Lehner was offered two years @ $5m but he wanted more term.

No it saves nothing, way bonuses are structured and he's over 35. Cap Friendly has it I don't remember the specifics.
- rpeters01

You're right that it doesn't save anything, but it has nothing to do with his age. He wasn't 35 at the time he signed, so it's just a regular contract.

Would anyone know what the buyout break down for Seabrook's contract would be? Plus would help the hawks or hurt them short term or long term?
- Scott1977

People on here often refer to capfriendly.com. Check it out.

From what I understand Lehner was offered two years @ $5m but he wanted more term.
- walleyeb1

He was offered that by the Islander 2X5, but they quickly turned to Varlamov when Lehner took too long in the Isles opinion to accept the contract

The problem with quotes on the Internet is that it is hard to verify their authenticity."
~ Abraham Lincoln
- paulr

I've found it to be a lot easier to not question anything or anyone & to just accept everything at surface value. My professors always said it was a wonder that I ever graduated with a degree in English.

The rumor was never confirmed, but it was initially reported in Vancouver by sports radio guy named James Cybulski on Twitter.
- gmurban

Here's the original load of crap:

James Cybulski on Twitter:
Heard over the weekend that #Canucks & #Blackhawks had discussed swapping the 3rd and 10th overall picks so Vancouver could jump up to get Bowen Byram, but Chicago wanted Van to take D Brent Seabrook and the remaining 5 years/$6.875M AAV on his contract. Thus the deal died.

So first, tell which team selecting in a draft #3 overall is gonna drop to ten, even if they know "their guy" is there?

You can try to delineate and say the thickness of the last draft class was real, but NO ONE sees the ten pick and the Seabrook dump (and remember this horsefeathers trade idea has to be with his blessings too!) as equal is dreaming....
Yo want some that high to sell the pick, you get a pick back in the next year that is defined to be close to THREE or you simply don't do it.

If Al Gore invented it, IT HAS TO BE CORRECT!


oh sorry i forgot the red font.
- powerenforcer

In 1991, the US Congress had passed the High Performance Computing and Communication Act, better known as the "Gore Bill," named after its original sponsor, then-senator Al Gore. It's to this that Gore owed his purported claim of having "invented the Internet" — which isn't as far-fetched as it sounds. Invent is undoubtedly the wrong word, but the push from government was crucial in getting the Internet out of its academic ghetto. Among the bill's provisions was a piece of policy best known by its popular name: the "information superhighway." But rather than putting shovels in the ground to build it, government policymakers catalyzed private companies to do it for them, by funding the construction of "on-ramps."
While I'd take issue with Blum's description of the pre-1990s internet as an "academic ghetto," the rest of his facts are correct. But you don't really need to take Blum's word for it. You could just ask two of the guys who indisputably did help build the internet: Robert Kahn and Vint Cerf.

Writing in the year 2000, Kahn and Cerf shed some light on Gore's actual role in bringing the internet to the masses—and his supposed, now-infamous claim:
As far back as the 1970s Congressman Gore promoted the idea of high speed telecommunications as an engine for both economic growth and the improvement of our educational system. He was the first elected official to grasp the potential of computer communications to have a broader impact than just improving the conduct of science and scholarship. Though easily forgotten, now, at the time this was an unproven and controversial concept. Our work on the Internet started in 1973 and was based on even earlier work that took place in the mid-late 1960s. But the Internet, as we know it today, was not deployed until 1983. When the Internet was still in the early stages of its deployment, Congressman Gore provided intellectual leadership by helping create the vision of the potential benefits of high speed computing and communication. As an example, he sponsored hearings on how advanced technologies might be put to use in areas like coordinating the response of government agencies to natural disasters and other crises.

As a Senator in the 1980s Gore urged government agencies to consolidate what at the time were several dozen different and unconnected networks into an "Interagency Network." Working in a bi-partisan manner with officials in Ronald Reagan and George Bush's administrations, Gore secured the passage of the High Performance Computing and Communications Act in 1991. This "Gore Act" supported the National Research and Education Network (NREN) initiative that became one of the major vehicles for the spread of the Internet beyond the field of computer science.

As Vice President Gore promoted building the Internet both up and out, as well as releasing the Internet from the control of the government agencies that spawned it. He served as the major administration proponent for continued investment in advanced computing and networking and private sector initiatives such as Net Day. He was and is a strong proponent of extending access to the network to schools and libraries. Today, approximately 95% of our nation's schools are on the Internet. Gore provided much-needed political support for the speedy privatization of the Internet when the time arrived for it to become a commercially-driven operation.

There are many factors that have contributed to the Internet's rapid growth since the later 1980s, not the least of which has been political support for its privatization and continued support for research in advanced networking technology. No one in public life has been more intellectually engaged in helping to create the climate for a thriving Internet than the Vice President. Gore has been a clear champion of this effort, both in the councils of government and with the public at large.

The Vice President deserves credit for his early recognition of the value of high speed computing and communication and for his long-term and consistent articulation of the potential value of the Internet to American citizens and industry and, indeed, to the rest of the world.
The internet was not "invented" by any single person.

Without Gore's work, the publicly accessible internet could have taken shape in a very different way, with it functioning as something closer to a public utility managed directly by the government. The great irony is that if you believe private enterprise is the best path for technological growth, you largely have Al Gore to thank for the internet taking that road.

Seabrooks contract in no way impedes this teams shot at a Cup run or two the next three years.

This is kind of a dumb argument at this point.

With an improved pk and goaltending they will be in the playoffs even if they are one of the worst defensive teams in the league again.

With the amount of guys they have that can score, and with very good goaltending they can win a round or two this year.

They're really not in a bad spot considering how much parity there is in the league. Talent is very diluted even a marginal increase in the hawks roster quality is going to look like a barn burning success.