this is pretty good

https://twitter.com/NHL/status/1158469076144009216

Elias Pettersson has some skills

yeah...hes not selfish or anything.....Who's running the Sabres??? Palooka or Echl?

What a horribly selfish player....yeesh
- RippedFuel

agreed

I honestly have no clue. I don't believe 4 years walks him to UFA so the term is a possibility. That actually seems to make a lot of sense for both sides. He gets a hefty raise and the ability to negotiate his big deal at 25 that would see only 2-3 years of his UFA years taken up. With that last bit, I'm assuming contract lengths become shorter in the next CBA.
- RickJames77

Simple rule: 27 or 7.

27 years old or 7 accrued seasons.

He's 21, with 2 years of NHL hockey.

So you don't want to give him a 5 year contract.

Simple rule: 27 or 7.

27 years old or 7 accrued seasons.

He's 21, with 2 years of NHL hockey.

So you don't want to give him a 5 year contract.
- Atomic Wedgie

Simple rule: 27 or 7.

27 years old or 7 accrued seasons.

He's 21, with 2 years of NHL hockey.

So you don't want to give him a 5 year contract.
- Atomic Wedgie

Gotcha - that's what I thought.

Lord knows I beat the dead horse that is the bold

Gotcha - that's what I thought.

Lord knows I beat the dead horse that is the bold
- RickJames77

didn't he play 3 years of NHL hockey? or playoffs don't count? (like it is the reason he cannot be offersheeted?).

didn't he play 3 years of NHL hockey? or playoffs don't count? (like it is the reason he cannot be offersheeted?).
- MaximusAurelius

When 18 or 19 you need to play 10 NHL games for it to count as a year of experience. AHL games don't matter (there's a stipulation when you're 19 and turn 20 before december 21st or some poop like that). You need 3 years of experience to have the right to sign an offer sheet. He only played 6 NHL games (only playoffs, but those are included). So for instance, Cale Makar will be able to sign an offer sheet when his contract is up.

this is pretty good

https://twitter.com/NHL/status/1158469076144009216

Elias Pettersson has some skills
- senstroll

Smart of Benning to use all their cap on bottom 6 players before he signs...

When 18 or 19 you need to play 10 NHL games for it to count as a year of experience. AHL games don't matter (there's a stipulation when you're 19 and turn 20 before december 21st or some poop like that). You need 3 years of experience to have the right to sign an offer sheet. He only played 6 NHL games (only playoffs, but those are included). So for instance, Cale Makar will be able to sign an offer sheet when his contract is up.
- RickJames77

ah ok.
i thought the bruins went further in those playoffs.. but they lost to the mighty sens :D

didn't he play 3 years of NHL hockey? or playoffs don't count? (like it is the reason he cannot be offersheeted?).
- MaximusAurelius

Playoffs don't count.

An "accrued season" is 40 games on the roster for the regular season (so even if you sit in the press box, the meter is runnning).

30 for goalies.

And apparently the meter is also running if you are out with an injury.

When 18 or 19 you need to play 10 NHL games for it to count as a year of experience. AHL games don't matter (there's a stipulation when you're 19 and turn 20 before december 21st or some poop like that). You need 3 years of experience to have the right to sign an offer sheet. He only played 6 NHL games (only playoffs, but those are included). So for instance, Cale Makar will be able to sign an offer sheet when his contract is up.
- RickJames77

That's for the "entry level slide" which means that if you don't play 10 games, your ELC gets extended for an extra season.

It's a different calculation than "accrued season."

Yes, they try to make it as complicated as possible.

ah ok.
i thought the bruins went further in those playoffs.. but they lost to the mighty sens :D
- MaximusAurelius

That was a tough one. The only reason he was even called up from the A was because IIRC we were down so many defensemen. To put it into perspective our d for game 5 was Colin Miller (remember this was over 2 years ago), John-Michael Liles, Joe Morrow, Zdeno Chara, McAvoy & Miller, who was relatively inexperienced at the time

Ya Dubas cant do anything this off season until marner is signed.


- Fakepartofme

That Mariner keeps holding us up.. I don't see how we are going to move Marleau or Zaitsev or Brown.. We're screwed It's all Mariner's fault.

That's for the "entry level slide" which means that if you don't play 10 games, your ELC gets extended for an extra season.

It's a different calculation than "accrued season."

Yes, they try to make it as complicated as possible.
- Atomic Wedgie

I'm pretty sure it's the same for accrued seasons. I posted as much a few weeks ago. Hold the phone, I'll double check. He didn't slide, which is actually interesting, because he needs a new contract this year. I don't know why that is now that I think about it. He only played those 6 games in 2016-2017, a season in 17-18 & 18-19. I'll follow this up. Uno momento

That was a tough one. The only reason he was even called up from the A was because IIRC we were down so many defensemen. To put it into perspective our d for game 5 was Colin Miller (remember this was over 2 years ago), John-Michael Liles, Joe Morrow, Zdeno Chara, McAvoy & Miller, who was relatively inexperienced at the time
- RickJames77

I was very very impressed when I saw McAvoy in a live game vs NYI in New York last season (that was January 2018).
From the Bruins young players - apart from Pastrnak of course - I like McAvoy and Heinen most; would love both on the Leafs.

I'm pretty sure it's the same for accrued seasons. I posted as much a few weeks ago. Hold the phone, I'll double check. He didn't slide, which is actually interesting, because he needs a new contract this year. I don't know why that is now that I think about it. He only played those 6 games in 2016-2017, a season in 17-18 & 18-19. I'll follow this up. Uno momento
- RickJames77

It's because of his age.

ELS (Entry Level Slide) – If a player who is signed to an entry-level contract and is 18 or 19 years of age (as of September 15 of the signing year), does not play in a minimum of 10 NHL games (including both regular season and playoffs; AHL games do not count), their contract is considered to ‘slide’, or extend, by one year. For example, if a player signed an ELC for three seasons from 2015-16 to 2017-2018, and their contract slides, their contract is now effective from 2016-17 to 2018-19. An exception to this rule is that if the player is 19 on September 15 of the first year of their contract, and turns 20 between September 16 and December 31, their contract does not slide.

I'm pretty sure it's the same for accrued seasons. I posted as much a few weeks ago. Hold the phone, I'll double check. He didn't slide, which is actually interesting, because he needs a new contract this year. I don't know why that is now that I think about it. He only played those 6 games in 2016-2017, a season in 17-18 & 18-19. I'll follow this up. Uno momento
- RickJames77

"Because of his six playoff games against Ottawa in 2016, the Bruins defenseman will be categorized as a 10.2 (c) player: one who does not have three years of professional experience even after the expiration of his three-year ELC."

CBA:

A Player aged 18 or 19 earns a year of professional experience by playing ten (10) or more NHL Games in a given season. A Player aged 20 or older (or who turns 20 between September 16 and December 31 of the calendar year in which he signs his first SPC) earns a year of professional experience by playing ten (10) or more Professional Games under an SPC in a given season.

"Because of his six playoff games against Ottawa in 2016, the Bruins defenseman will be categorized as a 10.2 (c) player: one who does not have three years of professional experience even after the expiration of his three-year ELC."

CBA:

A Player aged 18 or 19 earns a year of professional experience by playing ten (10) or more NHL Games in a given season. A Player aged 20 or older (or who turns 20 between September 16 and December 31 of the calendar year in which he signs his first SPC) earns a year of professional experience by playing ten (10) or more Professional Games under an SPC in a given season.
- RickJames77

L8

It's because of his age.

ELS (Entry Level Slide) – If a player who is signed to an entry-level contract and is 18 or 19 years of age (as of September 15 of the signing year), does not play in a minimum of 10 NHL games (including both regular season and playoffs; AHL games do not count), their contract is considered to ‘slide’, or extend, by one year. For example, if a player signed an ELC for three seasons from 2015-16 to 2017-2018, and their contract slides, their contract is now effective from 2016-17 to 2018-19. An exception to this rule is that if the player is 19 on September 15 of the first year of their contract, and turns 20 between September 16 and December 31, their contract does not slide.
- Atomic Wedgie

Serious question here: if this was an ELC Slide (we need an HB dance for this, someone get on it) then why would he need a new contract this year? He played in 2016-2017 (6 playoff games), 2017-2018 & 2018-2019. If it were a slide situation, I'd be under the impression that he would be under contract this year and not be up for a new one, which he is.

Serious question here: if this was an ELC Slide (we need an HB dance for this, someone get on it) then why would he need a new contract this year? He played in 2016-2017 (6 playoff games), 2017-2018 & 2018-2019. If it were a slide situation, I'd be under the impression that he would be under contract this year and not be up for a new one, which he is.
- RickJames77

I don't care - just offersheet him!!! :D
EDIT - you are right ; McAvoy doesn't really need a new contract..(at least from that text)

Serious question here: if this was an ELC Slide (we need an HB dance for this, someone get on it) then why would he need a new contract this year? He played in 2016-2017 (6 playoff games), 2017-2018 & 2018-2019. If it were a slide situation, I'd be under the impression that he would be under contract this year and not be up for a new one, which he is.
- RickJames77

You are getting two different calculations mushed into one.

To have an "accrued season" towards free agency, you need to be on the NHL roster for 40 regular season games. Playoffs do not count at all.

McAvoy doesn't have 3 accrued seasons, so he's technically not an RFA (which is why he wasn't eligible for an offer sheet).

But he did play for the Bruins that first season (playoffs only), so his contract was valid (I don't actually know if he got paid that year). Since he played for them, it counts as a year off of his 3-year, entry level contract. And the Bruins couldn't "slide him" - because of the age clause.

So he used up 3 years of his contract, so he needs a new one. But the first year doesn't count as an "accrued season" towards free agency.

It's because of his age.

ELS (Entry Level Slide) – If a player who is signed to an entry-level contract and is 18 or 19 years of age (as of September 15 of the signing year), does not play in a minimum of 10 NHL games (including both regular season and playoffs; AHL games do not count), their contract is considered to ‘slide’, or extend, by one year. For example, if a player signed an ELC for three seasons from 2015-16 to 2017-2018, and their contract slides, their contract is now effective from 2016-17 to 2018-19. An exception to this rule is that if the player is 19 on September 15 of the first year of their contract, and turns 20 between September 16 and December 31, their contract does not slide.
- Atomic Wedgie

There's the answer. Thank you. He was 19 when he signed and turned 20 on December 21st so his contract does not slide. It's because he is a 10.2(c) it seems to me at least.

That would make sense, right?

There's the answer. Thank you. He was 19 when he signed and turned 20 on December 21st so his contract does not slide. It's because he is a 10.2(c) it seems to me at least.

That would make sense, right?
- RickJames77

See above.

There's the answer. Thank you. He was 19 when he signed and turned 20 on December 21st so his contract does not slide. It's because he is a 10.2(c) it seems to me at least.

That would make sense, right?
- RickJames77

ow wait yes- he's turning 22 in december.

I don't care - just offersheet him!!! :D
EDIT - you are right ; McAvoy doesn't really need a new contract..(at least from that text)
- MaximusAurelius

He does need a new contract.

He's a very, very weird exception: his entry level contract has ended, but he didn't receive RFA rights.

But he can't play until he signs a new contract.

At the end of the day, it probably means nothing - as offer sheets are like unicorns, I don't think he loses any bargaining power by not having official RFA status.