Just sign the guy.
- Aaron_85

I think they've tried.. That Mariner fellow, just doesn't want to be paid less then Matthews

This isn't really news per se, just a summary of what's been going on.
- gravyface

I know, it just bothers the poop out of me..

I think they've tried.. That Mariner fellow, just doesn't want to be paid less then Matthews
- PatC80

I feel like 6 years and 10 million is fair for both.

You're not going to do 5 because Matthews is up in 5, you're not going to do 4 because it walks him to UFA, maybe a 3 year deal. It has to be 3 or 6 IMO. I don't think he wants 7 or 8 based off of what I read and 2 is just a stop gap and puts the team back in this situation before you know it.

IF he really wanted to be a TRUE Leaf, he'd be happy with 6/yr for 8 years. Where else would he want to play.

Have some pride and do the right thing, Mitch
- RippedFuel

Stupid or just bad at trolling? Stupid would be the more generous explanation because it’s not something you choose.

I think they've tried.. That Mariner fellow, just doesn't want to be paid less then Matthews
- PatC80

It all started with Mariner killing that stupid albatross.

I feel like 6 years and 10 million is fair for both.

You're not going to do 5 because Matthews is up in 5, you're not going to do 4 because it walks him to UFA, maybe a 3 year deal. It has to be 3 or 6 IMO. I don't think he wants 7 or 8 based off of what I read and 2 is just a stop gap and puts the team back in this situation before you know it.
- RickJames77

I have heard that he'll sign a 8 year at 8million AAV contract if:
1/ he becomes the Captain
2/ Leafs trade Nylander

Did some cycling/boozing/boozing/boozing in Niagara on the Lake this weekend.

Got talking to a nice dude at one of the breweries - he told us about The Blueline Diner in Niagara Falls:

http://www.bluelinediner.com/home

Marcel Dionne owns it, and apparently he's in there almost every day.

We didn't end up going, but if I'm ever in Niagara Falls for breakfast, I'll check it out.

I have heard that he'll sign a 8 year at 8million AAV contract if:
1/ he becomes the Captain
2/ Leafs trade Nylander
- MaximusAurelius

yeah...hes not selfish or anything.....Who's running he Leafs??? Dubas or Mitch Mariner?

What a horribly selfish player....yeesh

I feel like 6 years and 10 million is fair for both.

You're not going to do 5 because Matthews is up in 5, you're not going to do 4 because it walks him to UFA, maybe a 3 year deal. It has to be 3 or 6 IMO. I don't think he wants 7 or 8 based off of what I read and 2 is just a stop gap and puts the team back in this situation before you know it.
- RickJames77

I think 6/10M is fair as well..

If the ask is $10M per season on a 3 yr deal though, that's a bad idea. IMO.

It all started with Mariner killing that stupid albatross.
- Monkeypunk

Maybe the albatross deserved it?

I think 6/10M is fair as well..

If the ask is $10M per season on a 3 yr deal though, that's a bad idea. IMO.
- PatC80

Yeah 100%

The last bit was about term. 3 years would probably be like 7.5-8 I'd imagine.

Yeah 100%

The last bit was about term. 3 years would probably be like 7.5-8 I'd imagine.
- RickJames77

what about McAvoy?
4y at 7.5mln?

I think 6/10M is fair as well..

If the ask is $10M per season on a 3 yr deal though, that's a bad idea. IMO.
- PatC80

I'm sure that's why the leafs haven't done that deal.

Marner is trying to set a new precedent with "bridge" contracts.

Those days are gone and not coming back. Kids growing up are different: they're all friends, they play Fortnite together, big guys coming up in the league are like Gauthier: gentle giants.
- gravyface

Most things are cyclical.

It could come back....but I dont see it any time soon.

This was probably15 years ago, but for my wife's birthday we went to a Leafs game and then Harbour60 afterwards.

All the Russian players were there, having dinner together. Leafs and Red Wings.
- Atomic Wedgie

Probably laying the ground work for Putin to take ownership of the US.
Sly.


Or just eating and drinking

Like how Mariner is holding us hostage?
- PatC80

Ya Dubas cant do anything this off season until marner is signed.

I think 6/10M is fair as well..

If the ask is $10M per season on a 3 yr deal though, that's a bad idea. IMO.
- PatC80

Aho just signed for 8.5 x 5yrs

I have to assume TB gets point for something close to that and Rantanen

why does Mitch get a lot more

Aho just signed for 8.5 x 5yrs

I have to assume TB gets point for something close to that and Rantanen

why does Mitch get a lot more
- senstroll

Cause Point and Rant will probably wait until Marner is signed and then sign for similar to what he got.
Although I would prefer Point and Rant sign prior to lower Marners number.

what about McAvoy?
4y at 7.5mln?
- MaximusAurelius

I honestly have no clue. I don't believe 4 years walks him to UFA so the term is a possibility. That actually seems to make a lot of sense for both sides. He gets a hefty raise and the ability to negotiate his big deal at 25 that would see only 2-3 years of his UFA years taken up. With that last bit, I'm assuming contract lengths become shorter in the next CBA.

Aho just signed for 8.5 x 5yrs

I have to assume TB gets point for something close to that and Rantanen

why does Mitch get a lot more
- senstroll

Toronto Taxes

I honestly have no clue. I don't believe 4 years walks him to UFA so the term is a possibility. That actually seems to make a lot of sense for both sides. He gets a hefty raise and the ability to negotiate his big deal at 25 that would see only 2-3 years of his UFA years taken up. With that last bit, I'm assuming contract lengths become shorter in the next CBA.
- RickJames77

I would agree on the shorter contracts. I think as well that players will switch teams more because of it; 3-5 years (after first contract) with the team that drafted them, then switch to another team (they like more or they feel that will give them better chances of winning a SC). Players can add more at 26-30 and therefor can help a team win a SC instead of the 34-36y old that join 'the team of their dreams'.
so the younger players joining a team might do that for just 1-2 years at 25-28 for a SC run.

I would agree on the shorter contracts. I think as well that players will switch teams more because of it; 3-5 years (after first contract) with the team that drafted them, then switch to another team (they like more or they feel that will give them better chances of winning a SC). Players can add more at 26-30 and therefor can help a team win a SC instead of the 34-36y old that join 'the team of their dreams'.
so the younger players joining a team might do that for just 1-2 years at 25-28 for a SC run.


- MaximusAurelius

I'm well aware of the tweet. I'm not looking this up, but I'm pretty sure it was after the Bruins knocked out the Rangers in 2013 so it's understandable.

I'm well aware of the tweet. I'm not looking this up, but I'm pretty sure it was after the Bruins knocked out the Rangers in 2013 so it's understandable.
- RickJames77

i know you are well aware
it was just to emphasize that players will probably change teams more easily.

(if i'd be a very good NHL player, I'd definitely want to try and play for all original six teams at least 1 season; to get the complete NHL experience :D )

Cause Point and Rant will probably wait until Marner is signed and then sign for similar to what he got.
Although I would prefer Point and Rant sign prior to lower Marners number.
- Fakepartofme

This is not about crashing costs for the sake of crashing cost. This is about lip stick.

Agreed. Its been very apparent in the last three playoff series that the Leaf top forwards just aren't tough enough. Not sure anything has been done to address it. Like they say...the definition of insanity...
- RippedFuel

Agreed. It's been very apparent in the last 8 regular seasons that the Sabres top forwards just aren't good enough. Not sure anything has been done to address it. Like they say...the definition of insanity...