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MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Aug 6 @ 11:38 AM ET
Great cocktail if you like ginger. Some people don’t.
- Victoro311


I do!

I dont drink much at all anymore, I consider it a poison. Something clicked in my head where I realized I was spending good money to cloud my memories, sometimes do things I regret and make myself sick for a day or two and just kinda stopped. Also, I'm in my 30's and still want to play a lot of hockey in a week and be active... the hangovers just tear the energy, strength and endurance out of me.

j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Aug 6 @ 11:38 AM ET
My side of the ship serves Mojitos and Moscow Mules. It’s the cooler side.
- Victoro311


Moscow Mules are (frank)ing gross. Hahaha
Mojitos are good if there made right. There was this joint down in Key West that made the most delicious mojitos I’ve ever had and they got me drunk as poop too. Right in the water to watch that badass sunset with a mojito in my hand.
RoloTahmasee
Joined: 07.24.2009

Aug 6 @ 11:38 AM ET
I don’t know if your serious or not but if Panarin wanted to come to the burgh JR would have made it happen. He’s Russian so I’m sure being on a team with Crosby and Malkin wasn’t to appealing to him.
- Grinder47


My point was that for the most part Nobody wants to come here (or at least Pittsburgh isn’t on their short list), but when ever we sign anyone, All the talk is “We coulda had that guy instead”

All evidence over the last 2 decades suggests that isn’t true. Free Agent options are more limited then we admit over here. The Penguins unfortunately are not a preferred destination for Free Agents, regardless of the team outlook or success

Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Aug 6 @ 11:40 AM ET
Rust is a solid middle six, he's just not notably better or even faster than most of the guys they have for that role. He'd be a 30 point guy struggling to get 15 goals if he didn't play so much with Crosby and Malkin. That's basically what Tanev did.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Aug 6 @ 11:40 AM ET
Great cocktail if you like ginger. Some people don’t.
- Victoro311


The weird thing is; I love ginger. Like when we get sushi I eat allllll the ginger hahah
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Aug 6 @ 11:42 AM ET
Rust is a solid middle six, he's just not notably better or even faster than most of the guys they have for that role. He'd be a 30 point guy struggling to get 15 goals if he didn't play so much with Crosby and Malkin. That's basically what Tanev did.
- Tojo.

Rust is demonstrably better than Tanev. He’s been better than McCann and there’s a statistical argument to be made that he’s even better than Galchenyuk. Kahun i have no idea. The books not out on him yet.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Aug 6 @ 11:45 AM ET
Moscow Mules are (frank)ing gross. Hahaha
Mojitos are good if there made right. There was this joint down in Key West that made the most delicious mojitos I’ve ever had and they got me drunk as poop too. Right in the water to watch that badass sunset with a mojito in my hand.

- j.boyd919

God poorly made mojitos are so (frank)ing annoying. They don’t get the proportions right and then there’s a bunch of sugar particles floating around that feel like sand when you take a drink. There are few places outside the Caribbean where I’ve had a good ‘jito, but when I find them I latch onto them.

I’m pretty shocked you don’t like Mules if you like ginger. I’ve never had a bad Mule the same way I’ve had a bad mojito so if you don’t like them it’s not because you just haven’t had a good one. Weird.
RoloTahmasee
Joined: 07.24.2009

Aug 6 @ 11:45 AM ET
Point predictions for the following players anyone?

McCann

Kahun

Galchenyuk

Simon

- Barnaby36


McCann 45, Kahun 45, Simon 32

Galchenyuk 27 goals 25 assists

I’m predicting that Gally will outscore Kessel this season goal for goal and will average a higher Point per Million than Kessel will

(Kessel will have under 25 goals and about 32-35 assists)
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Aug 6 @ 11:53 AM ET
God poorly made mojitos are so (frank)ing annoying. They don’t get the proportions right and then there’s a bunch of sugar particles floating around that feel like sand when you take a drink. There are few places outside the Caribbean where I’ve had a good ‘jito, but when I find them I latch onto them.

I’m pretty shocked you don’t like Mules if you like ginger. I’ve never had a bad Mule the same way I’ve had a bad mojito so if you don’t like them it’s not because you just haven’t had a good one. Weird.

- Victoro311


Yeah I dunno. Let me rephrase that, I’ll drink them if they’re free. I just think they taste more funky then delicious. But I would never buy one over other alcohol. Like... I never seek them out, there’s a million other drinks I’d rather have.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Aug 6 @ 12:14 PM ET
Rust is demonstrably better than Tanev. He’s been better than McCann and there’s a statistical argument to be made that he’s even better than Galchenyuk. Kahun i have no idea. The books not out on him yet.
- Victoro311

Demonstrably better? I'd disagree. Leave Rust on a third line all year and how many goals and points do you think he gets?
Doogs
Season Ticket Holder
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh , PA
Joined: 09.16.2005

Aug 6 @ 12:21 PM ET
No because they also have Rikky and Rhu Rhu signed.
- MattStrat


And I get that. I asked because many here don’t see Rikki OR RuRu (as you call them) as much of an upgrade over JJ. I take it you don’t see Morrow as better?
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Aug 6 @ 12:22 PM ET
My side of the ship serves Mojitos and Moscow Mules. It’s the cooler side.
- Victoro311

Definitely going with the old fashioned side.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Aug 6 @ 12:24 PM ET
I do!

I dont drink much at all anymore, I consider it a poison. Something clicked in my head where I realized I was spending good money to cloud my memories, sometimes do things I regret and make myself sick for a day or two and just kinda stopped. Also, I'm in my 30's and still want to play a lot of hockey in a week and be active... the hangovers just tear the energy, strength and endurance out of me.

- MattStrat

I have 3 drinks at the most anymore just to “take the edge off”. Crown vanilla has been my thing this past week or so.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Aug 6 @ 12:25 PM ET
My side of the ship serves Mojitos and Moscow Mules. It’s the cooler side.
- Victoro311


I liked sweet drinks too when I was underage.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Aug 6 @ 12:27 PM ET
Demonstrably better? I'd disagree. Leave Rust on a third line all year and how many goals and points do you think he gets?
- Tojo.

His ice time would fall by roughly 30 secs a game at 5v5 so...
Doogs
Season Ticket Holder
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh , PA
Joined: 09.16.2005

Aug 6 @ 12:27 PM ET
I liked sweet drinks too when I was underage.
- Rinosaur


Rum Runners were the $hit back then!!!!
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Aug 6 @ 12:27 PM ET
Demonstrably better? I'd disagree. Leave Rust on a third line all year and how many goals and points do you think he gets?
- Tojo.

Last three years scoring rated per 60:

Rust: 2.2, 1.9, 1.9

Tanev: 0.5, 1.4, 1.6

I get the Rust plays with Sid and Geno, but he’s also spent plenty of time away from them and consistently produces around top 6 caliber production. There’s a pretty big gap between Rust and Tanev that’s hard to explain away with “well rust spends time in the top 6”. The rates suggest Rust has earned that time.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Aug 6 @ 12:28 PM ET
I liked sweet drinks too when I was underage.
- Rinosaur

Mules are not sweet, they are tart.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Aug 6 @ 12:29 PM ET
Mules are not sweet, they are tart.
- Victoro311

I hate vodka.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Aug 6 @ 12:37 PM ET
I hate vodka.
- Feds91Stammer

I typically do, but if the cocktail’s more involved than a well I can get into some vodka drinks.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Aug 6 @ 12:44 PM ET
I hate vodka.
- Feds91Stammer



Because its weak ass water to real drinkers?
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Aug 6 @ 12:46 PM ET
I hate vodka.
- Feds91Stammer


I do as well. I’m a bourbon/rye, gin and wine guy.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Aug 6 @ 12:46 PM ET
Last three years scoring rated per 60:

Rust: 2.2, 1.9, 1.9

Tanev: 0.5, 1.4, 1.6

I get the Rust plays with Sid and Geno, but he’s also spent plenty of time away from them and consistently produces around top 6 caliber production. There’s a pretty big gap between Rust and Tanev that’s hard to explain away with “well rust spends time in the top 6”. The rates suggest Rust has earned that time.

- Victoro311

Historically Rust has an edge. I should have specified what Tanev did last year. If you want to argue Tanev needs to prove he can maintain that rate, I'd agree with you.

Last year, I see Rust at 1.7 pts/60 at 5v5 and Tanev at 1.53. I also see Rust getting 2/3 of his minutes in the top 6 while Tanev rarely playing off the 3rd line.

That's not demonstrably better to me. It's also in line with what Rust normally does, which is stretching the definition of top 6 production.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Aug 6 @ 12:47 PM ET
Mules are not sweet, they are tart.
- Victoro311


Ginger beer has sugar. It’s on sweeter side of cocktails.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Aug 6 @ 12:59 PM ET
Because its weak ass water to real drinkers?
- Guile


It’s just gross. I remember growing up everyone would say Vodka has no flavor or smell, but to me it’s very specific.

It can disappear a bit in certain cocktails, but overall I can pick it out easily.
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