I would say yes but I'm biased.

Did any other panelist have Coots in the top 20?

As far as Giroux.... #disrespect
- FlyerFan16

Yes two of the panelists had him in their top 20, but alas, he did not make the final list. Which I feel is utterly ridiculous. But Ill take our under rated #1 all situations center any day of the week.

I predict he scores 35-40 this season.

As for Giroux, they pointed out that he is mainly a wing now so making the fan list was quite impressive.

Yes two of the panelists had him in their top 20, but alas, he did not make the final list. Which I feel is utterly ridiculous. But Ill take our under rated #1 all situations center any day of the week.

I predict he scores 35-40 this season.

As for Giroux, they pointed out that he is mainly a wing now so making the fan list was quite impressive.
- MBFlyerfan

35-40 would be impressive but with the better depth they have this year, assuming he's paired with G most of the time he could do it.

Good point about G.

No the flyers signing him doesn’t mean he has a chance. He is ahl depth. Though in your eyes that’s an asset.
- daryl stanley

Hey let’s cut and paste your comment for the Flyers, wait don’t do that, they are running a business and we just look at it like fans and we should.

Your quote

He is AHL depth, though in your eyes that’s an asset.

Please evaluate what you wrote ...

Hey let’s cut and paste your comment for the Flyers, wait don’t do that, they are running a business and we just look at it like fans and we should.

Your quote

He is AHL depth, though in your eyes that’s an asset.

Please evaluate what you wrote ...
- wcorvette

what is there to evaluate?

I'm actually kind of happy that our biggest problem today is to evaluate the value of Nicolas Aube-Kubel. Give me 9 more months of that please.

I'm actually kind of happy that our biggest problem today is to evaluate the value of Nicolas Aube-Kubel. Give me 9 more months of that please.
- jmatchett383

He is an asset that the flyers should not just discard.

He is an asset that the flyers should not just discard.
- daryl stanley

He seems to be a young player who has a lot of positive assets. Can skate, has an edge to his game etc. But all those assets are of a tweener variety. Plus skills at the AHL level, fringe 4th liner/healthy scratch at the NHL level.

It just helps to illustrate what a jump it is between the NHL and all other leagues in the world.

He seems to be a young player who has a lot of positive assets. Can skate, has an edge to his game etc. But all those assets are of a tweener variety. Plus skills at the AHL level, fringe 4th liner/healthy scratch at the NHL level.

It just helps to illustrate what a jump it is between the NHL and all other leagues in the world.
- MBFlyerfan

He seems like Andreas Nodl to me. He's a decent player for a 4th line role that won't kill you, but any offense you get from him is a bonus. Most teams already have at least 1 player similar to him, but he's not worthless, either.

Also, if he stays in the AHL and helps the Phantoms win with the young guys win (at least 2 of Ratcliffe, Frost, Farabee of note), there is internal value as well.

Trade value? Right now, maybe a 6th at best. Has more value internally.

The NAK-sucks-let's-just-waive-him stuff is very reminiscent of the guy on here who insisted that Laughton was done as a Flyer after he spent the last season of his ELC in the AHL, and "only"scored 39 points in 60 games.

Aube-Kubel had 30 in 54 games.

He seems to be a young player who has a lot of positive assets. Can skate, has an edge to his game etc. But all those assets are of a tweener variety. Plus skills at the AHL level, fringe 4th liner/healthy scratch at the NHL level.

It just helps to illustrate what a jump it is between the NHL and all other leagues in the world.
- MBFlyerfan

he will be a career ahl player. maybe a cup of coffee here and there; thats it. He can help at the ahl level which you will always need.

Will be shocked if he is a regular nhl player. That being said he may make the team as the 13th fwd as he is on a cheap contract and can fill in for 5 minutes a game short term

he will be a career ahl player. maybe a cup of coffee here and there; thats it. He can help at the ahl level which you will always need.

Will be shocked if he is a regular nhl player. That being said he may make the team as the 13th fwd as he is on a cheap contract and can fill in for 5 minutes a game short term
- daryl stanley

Aube-Kubel needs more consistency in his game but has had stretches where he looks like an NHL player; especially during his second season with the Phantoms (the first one was rough) and at junctures of this past season. The bigger issue has been finding a projected NHL role for him beyond just an energy player on the 4th line.

Aube-Kubel needs more consistency in his game but has had stretches where he looks like an NHL player; especially during his second season with the Phantoms (the first one was rough) and at junctures of this past season. The bigger issue has been finding a projected NHL role for him beyond just an energy player on the 4th line.
- bmeltzer

Bill, is there any chance, at all, that Pascal Laberge ever becomes an NHL player? That concussion he got the year after he was drafted seems to have completely ruined his game, and his hip surgery last year hasn't helped matters. At one point he was probably a top-5 forward prospect, but now he's probably not even a top-20. Did he show anything in his limited AHL play that said more than AHL lifer?

Aube-Kubel needs more consistency in his game but has had stretches where he looks like an NHL player; especially during his second season with the Phantoms (the first one was rough) and at junctures of this past season. The bigger issue has been finding a projected NHL role for him beyond just an energy player on the 4th line.
- bmeltzer

Your description can define many players on every nhl farm team. He has played 3 years of pro hockey. Hasn't stood out where you say this is his year to make it.

Bill correct me if I am wrong haven't you always said after 3 years of pro hockey in the ahl if you didn't make it your unlikely too. Something to that effect as that may not be the entire quote as this is going back a way.

So if NAK makes the team who do you sit/scratch in his favor? Raffl, Laughton, Pitlick?

So if NAK makes the team who do you sit/scratch in his favor? Raffl, Laughton, Pitlick?
- Pixote Andolini

None. He should be in due to injury and one of those 3, if healthy, should be moved up.

So if NAK makes the team who do you sit/scratch in his favor? Raffl, Laughton, Pitlick?
- Pixote Andolini

IMO Laughton should be the only lock of the three to start on the 4th line. Raffl or Pitlick can easily head to the press box in favor of NAK/Gabriel/Stewart/guy with a good camp.