Who's better right now IYO? New Jersey or New York Rangers?

Some serious upgrades.

Who's better right now IYO? New Jersey or New York Rangers?

Some serious upgrades.
- Barnaby36

New Jersey imo. They’re going to be a fun team to watch.

Kunitz officially retires and joins Chicago's staff. Surprised Pens didn't give him that opportunity.
- YouMeAndDupuis9

I guess he said to management he wanted to retire, they offered him the position right away and promptly accepted.

New Jersey imo. They’re going to be a fun team to watch.
- j.boyd919

Great position to be with Hischier and Hughes as your two primary centers. Very young. The future is secured.

Who's better right now IYO? New Jersey or New York Rangers?

Some serious upgrades.
- Barnaby36

Pens playoff spot is no sure thing

I guess he said to management he wanted to retire, they offered him the position right away and promptly accepted.
- Barnaby36

Or the Pens didn't have any vacancies.

Who's better right now IYO? New Jersey or New York Rangers?

Some serious upgrades.
- Barnaby36

They've both thrown a lot of new pieces together and who knows how that'll ever work out. They've both infidelity improved on paper without question. I give a slight edge to the Devils.

Pens playoff spot is no sure thing
- Za Warudo

No, the D is still pretty meh. They have a better supporting cast and Kahun and Mccann are wildcards. You can bet on Malkin being hurt for a chunk of hte season too.

Or the Pens didn't have any vacancies.
- jmatchett383

I was hoping Cullen would be invited for a similar position before Kunitz. He strikes me as a better "teacher".

No, the D is still pretty meh. They have a better supporting cast and Kahun and Mccann are wildcards. You can bet on Malkin being hurt for a chunk of hte season too.
- sammy87

We have so many middle wingers right now: Kahun, McCann, Rust, Simon, Tanev, Aston-Reese, Hörnqvist...they all could get top 6 minutes without a doubt. I like it as long as we play with passion this season. Love our Cs too.

I was hoping Cullen would be invited for a similar position before Kunitz. He strikes me as a better "teacher".
- Barnaby36

You can pretty much guarantee that Kuni doesn’t accept the job unless his family loves it in Chicago. Might not have mattered what kind of vacancies we do or don’t have open if that’s the case

It does kinda make me wonder what if we could’ve kept Kuni as a depth winger rather than bring Cullen back. Worst case scenario he would’ve been 4LW on a cheap contract. Why does that make me wonder? Because we could’ve seen more of Blueger or Johnson in that spot and avoided Wilson

You can pretty much guarantee that Kuni doesn’t accept the job unless his family loves it in Chicago. Might not have mattered what kind of vacancies we do or don’t have open if that’s the case

It does kinda make me wonder what if we could’ve kept Kuni as a depth winger rather than bring Cullen back. Worst case scenario he would’ve been 4LW on a cheap contract. Why does that make me wonder? Because we could’ve seen more of Blueger or Johnson in that spot and avoided Wilson
- WSCTeton17

But tbh G.Wilson was alright against the Islanders. We just had an all around bad performance as a team. No desire to win after the 1st game we lost.

Who's better right now IYO? New Jersey or New York Rangers?

Some serious upgrades.
- Barnaby36

NJ for sure. Depending on how good Kakko is in his first year the Rangers could wind up having one the best lines in the NHL with Panarin-Zib-Kakko, but there are still so many weaknesses on that team compared to NJ.

New Jersey imo. They’re going to be a fun team to watch.
- j.boyd919

I think the rangers did a litter better, worse team still but better offseason. Subban>Trouba. hughes>=kakko, wash becasue who knows. Panarin>Gusev(next Panarin) from what people are saying. If Gusev is another panarin, or close, then I give it to the Devils, but hard to give it to them before Gusev plays in NHL.

edit: read it wrong, Devils much better team, Rangers better upgrades.

also kinda funny that the Devils went out to get Gusev and they are still paying penalties on Kovalchuk

The more I look at our roster the more I wish Hörnqvist and his $5M contract was off the books. If we could trade two out of J.Johnson, Gudbranson and Hörnqvist we'd be in pretty good shape.

McCann - Crosby - Guentzel
Rust - Malkin - Galchenyuk
Simon - Bjugstad - Kahun
Aston-Reese - Blueger - Tanev

The more I look at our roster the more I wish Hörnqvist and his $5M contract was off the books. If we could trade two out of J.Johnson, Gudbranson and Hörnqvist we'd be in pretty good shape.
- Barnaby36

Those are three bad contracts that were completely avoidable. There are so many things the Pens could have done this or even last year if they didn't pick up those players.

In essence, JR traded pending UFA Hagelin (when the Pens could have been free and clear financially) for Gudbranson which is terrible asset management when you already have another 3rd pairing dman making $3.25M.

Hornqvist? I mean, his price and term aren't necessarily THAT bad, not wise, but not THAT bad. Plenty of teams probably give him that, but the full NTC? That was just a monster mistake.

I'm not going to get started on JJ because well, we all know that one. The Pens could be in a completely different position right now.

Those are three bad contracts that were completely avoidable. There are so many things the Pens could have done this or even last year if they didn't pick up those players.

In essence, JR traded pending UFA Hagelin (when the Pens could have been free and clear financially) for Gudbranson which is terrible asset management when you already have another 3rd pairing dman making $3.25M.

Hornqvist? I mean, his price and term aren't necessarily THAT bad, not wise, but not THAT bad. Plenty of teams probably give him that, but the full NTC? That was just a monster mistake.

I'm not going to get started on JJ because well, we all know that one. The Pens could be in a completely different position right now.
- Rinosaur

JR wanted to strike gold when they went after Pearson and 3 more years of contract, hoping a change of scenary would do well for him. We all saw he was nothing special even for our 3rd line. Fools gold.

But I liked the Pearson for Gudbranson swap considering no one probably wanted to take him.

Kunitz officially retires and joins Chicago's staff. Surprised Pens didn't give him that opportunity.
- YouMeAndDupuis9

Congratulations to Kunitz on an outstanding career. Undrafted player to a 4 time Cup winner, gold medalist, and for his 20s Crosby's best linemate.

I mean, in the pens case, they had Phil on the 3rd line when they won. If the 3C isn't very good, you can get away with it but you still need at least one talented/play-driver on the 3rd line.
- YouMeAndDupuis9

Back in the early Cup days, Pens had Jagr in the third line.

Who's better right now IYO? New Jersey or New York Rangers?

Some serious upgrades.
- Barnaby36

Jersey has a big advantage at center, but if they lose Hall and Nashville was right about Subban starting to decline, I don't like them better anywhere else.

I think Rangers are deeper at wing and defense, have key guys locked in longer, and have better potential answers in goal so I'm going there.

Callahan to the Sens. Insurance will pay 80% of his contract. Lots of dollars saved for Melnyk

Who's better right now IYO? New Jersey or New York Rangers?

Some serious upgrades.
- Barnaby36

New York Islanders. 4th line will eat up any scoring line in the league.