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adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Jul 30 @ 1:08 PM ET
Elie grew up about an hour and 15 minutes from Ottawa and an hour and a half from Montreal. Maybe he just grew up hating Buffalo and has no desire to play here. He's probably hoping to get awarded a deal that the team doesn't like and they buy him out.
Lilroot9
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.18.2012

Jul 30 @ 1:09 PM ET
Paul Fenton fired as Wild GM. Interesting timing.....
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jul 30 @ 1:12 PM ET
Trade was made because insurance will pay most of Callahan’s contract.

Will/Can Ottawa not put him on LTIR and just use the cap hit to get to the floor and he is just the “13th forward”

Wonder how that would affect insurance payouts.

- ImThatGuy


You don't use LTIR unless you absolutely have to. There are serious downsides to using it. Ottawa will just put him on IR, and like you said, 'enjoy' the (nearly?) cost free cap hit.
adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Jul 30 @ 1:17 PM ET
The only part I do not like in the sens Tampa deal is that the sens didn’t get anything in return. No value at all.

Atleast the hurricanes got value for Marleau. So it felt like the leafs paid to get the cap relief

The sens got nothing

- Sabretooth9

Sens add $3.4m in cap space, however with insurance picking up 80% of Callahan's salary they will actually only be on the hook for $940k. Condon was due to make $3m in salary. So adding cap but saving $2m in actual salary does have a significant value for a cheapskate like Melnyk.

All numbers from Steve Lloyd at TSN
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jul 30 @ 1:18 PM ET
Sens add $3.4m in cap space, however with insurance picking up 80% of Callahan's salary they will actually only be on the hook for $940k. Condon was due to make $3m in salary. So adding cap but saving $2m in actual salary does have a significant value for a cheapskate like Melnyk.

All numbers from Steve Lloyd at TSN

- adambuffalo

what the hell is Condon making $3mil for?
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jul 30 @ 1:20 PM ET
Paul Fenton fired as Wild GM. Interesting timing.....
- Lilroot9


I follow the wild somewhat closely as my favorite WC team. I thought at the time that it was a mistake to fire Fletcher. Yes, he botched the expansion draft, but he was a pretty solid GM for them overall. You could even argue that keeping Staal was more important to them than keeping Tuch/Haula. Yes, that is a bit of a stretch.

Fenton has been a disaster

Absolutely no vision there

My speculation as to "why now" would be that either he wants to trade Parise and they won't let him, or he doesn't want to trade Parise and ownership does. Or his terrible trade history just sunk in with the owner
seedy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: you don't need an ignore button to ignore someone., CA
Joined: 02.22.2007

Jul 30 @ 1:34 PM ET
I follow the wild somewhat closely as my favorite WC team. I thought at the time that it was a mistake to fire Fletcher. Yes, he botched the expansion draft, but he was a pretty solid GM for them overall. You could even argue that keeping Staal was more important to them than keeping Tuch/Haula. Yes, that is a bit of a stretch.

Fenton has been a disaster

Absolutely no vision there

My speculation as to "why now" would be that either he wants to trade Parise and they won't let him, or he doesn't want to trade Parise and ownership does. Or his terrible trade history just sunk in with the owner

- jcragcrumple


Theres an interview with Parise in the athletic where he talks about how his time is running out and the wild simply not being that good. Wonder if that had anything to do with it?
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jul 30 @ 1:40 PM ET
I follow the wild somewhat closely as my favorite WC team. I thought at the time that it was a mistake to fire Fletcher. Yes, he botched the expansion draft, but he was a pretty solid GM for them overall. You could even argue that keeping Staal was more important to them than keeping Tuch/Haula. Yes, that is a bit of a stretch.

Fenton has been a disaster

Absolutely no vision there

My speculation as to "why now" would be that either he wants to trade Parise and they won't let him, or he doesn't want to trade Parise and ownership does. Or his terrible trade history just sunk in with the owner

- jcragcrumple


Would have to be something major to earn getting fired in 14 months lol.
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jul 30 @ 1:45 PM ET
I follow the wild somewhat closely as my favorite WC team. I thought at the time that it was a mistake to fire Fletcher. Yes, he botched the expansion draft, but he was a pretty solid GM for them overall. You could even argue that keeping Staal was more important to them than keeping Tuch/Haula. Yes, that is a bit of a stretch.

Fenton has been a disaster

Absolutely no vision there

My speculation as to "why now" would be that either he wants to trade Parise and they won't let him, or he doesn't want to trade Parise and ownership does. Or his terrible trade history just sunk in with the owner

- jcragcrumple



Good thoughts. Parise is probably the most untradeable contract in the league right now. My guess is he wants to rebuild and ownership does not. That should have been ironed out when they hired him - that was a team going nowhere.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jul 30 @ 1:55 PM ET
Theres an interview with Parise in the athletic where he talks about how his time is running out and the wild simply not being that good. Wonder if that had anything to do with it?
- seedy


Yeah, as the owner, when the guy you paid $100 million says "we suck and I wouldn't mind moving on," something is going to happen
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jul 30 @ 2:00 PM ET
I follow the wild somewhat closely as my favorite WC team. I thought at the time that it was a mistake to fire Fletcher. Yes, he botched the expansion draft, but he was a pretty solid GM for them overall. You could even argue that keeping Staal was more important to them than keeping Tuch/Haula. Yes, that is a bit of a stretch.

Fenton has been a disaster

Absolutely no vision there

My speculation as to "why now" would be that either he wants to trade Parise and they won't let him, or he doesn't want to trade Parise and ownership does. Or his terrible trade history just sunk in with the owner

- jcragcrumple



Beezer33
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WNY, NY
Joined: 07.01.2011

Jul 30 @ 2:01 PM ET
55 + 3 = 28 + 85

Then

Add 51 for 4/24
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jul 30 @ 2:03 PM ET
55 + 3 = 28 + 85

Then

Add 51 for 4/24

- Beezer33



68=you do me and I owe you 1
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jul 30 @ 2:05 PM ET
Yeah, as the owner, when the guy you paid $100 million says "we suck and I wouldn't mind moving on," something is going to happen
- jcragcrumple



Okposo for Sutter
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jul 30 @ 2:09 PM ET
55 + 3 = 28 + 85

Then

Add 51 for 4/24

- Beezer33


On two, Break!
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 30 @ 2:32 PM ET


Some picks were involved also.

- jochfr


Callahan’s real $$$ owed this year is 4.7mil
Condon’s is 3.0mil

So for paying the extra 1.7mil,
Ottawa basically trades up from early in the 6th round to late in the 5th

For a team like Ottawa that doesn’t wanna spend $$$, that’s a pretty crappy deal

Botts should be on the phone about Sobatka
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jul 30 @ 2:36 PM ET
Callahan’s real $$$ owed this year is 4.7mil
Condon’s is 3.0mil

So for paying the extra 1.7mil,
Ottawa basically trades up from early in the 6th round to late in the 5th

For a team like Ottawa that doesn’t wanna spend $$$, that’s a pretty crappy deal

Botts should be on the phone about Sobatka

- jdfitz77


"insurance will pick up 80% of that, which means the Sens will be on the hook for around $940,000."
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jul 30 @ 2:41 PM ET
Callahan’s real $$$ owed this year is 4.7mil
Condon’s is 3.0mil

So for paying the extra 1.7mil,
Ottawa basically trades up from early in the 6th round to late in the 5th

For a team like Ottawa that doesn’t wanna spend $$$, that’s a pretty crappy deal

Botts should be on the phone about Sobatka

- jdfitz77


80% of Callahan’s deal is paid by insurance so Ottawa is paying like 940k and taking on a big cap number to hit the floor.

Ottawa did Tampa a huge solid.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jul 30 @ 2:44 PM ET
Douche move.
- buffalofan19


In all circumstances.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 30 @ 2:44 PM ET
Sens add $3.4m in cap space, however with insurance picking up 80% of Callahan's salary they will actually only be on the hook for $940k. Condon was due to make $3m in salary. So adding cap but saving $2m in actual salary does have a significant value for a cheapskate like Melnyk.

All numbers from Steve Lloyd at TSN

- adambuffalo


Ok... this makes much more sense now

Totally understandable trade from Ottawa’s POV to save the actual dollars paid out
And Tampa can bury most of Condon’s Cap hit
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Jul 30 @ 2:45 PM ET
80% of Callahan’s deal is paid by insurance so Ottawa is paying like 940k and taking on a big cap number to hit the floor.

Ottawa did Tampa a huge solid.

- dadeadhead


And they're not paying Condon's $3m, so they save $2.06m
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jul 30 @ 2:46 PM ET
Ok... this makes much more sense now

Totally understandable trade from Ottawa’s POV to save the actual dollars paid out
And Tampa can bury most of Condon’s Cap hit

- jdfitz77



Looks like they’re burring 1.3ish.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 30 @ 2:46 PM ET
80% of Callahan’s deal is paid by insurance so Ottawa is paying like 940k and taking on a big cap number to hit the floor.

Ottawa did Tampa a huge solid.

- dadeadhead


I didn’t realize at first about Insurance coving his salary

Makes way more sense now

Still feel like Ottawa could’ve done better than just moving up 5-10spots late in the draft though
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Jul 30 @ 2:46 PM ET
55 + 3 = 28 + 85

Then

Add 51 for 4/24

- Beezer33


In English .... where you going with this?
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jul 30 @ 2:48 PM ET
And they're not paying Condon's $3m, so they save $2.06m
- turbo044



Unless Ottawa retained salary Tampa is on the hook for the full 3 mil in actual dollars.

Per cap friendly they are burring 1.075 mil of his 2.4 cap hit.
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