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gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 30 @ 9:10 AM ET
Old Town Road breaks every record And is a terrible song go America
Cup Crazy '07
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 11.29.2006

Jul 30 @ 9:12 AM ET
James
@Account4hockey
Michael Russo also said on the Russo-Souhan show that Jake Gardiner has a somewhat long term handshake deal in place with a team that has to move out a high priced defenseman to make his cap hit fit.


So if any team dumps a big money D, they're probably signing Gardiner

- gerbe75pts


Rangers said to be buying out Shattenkirk...could be them?
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jul 30 @ 9:13 AM ET
I was just looking at Matt Hunwick's NHL.com page and I came across this:


Draft: 2004 BOS, 7th rd, 31st pk (224th overall)

How is that possible?
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jul 30 @ 9:14 AM ET
Let's hope not the Sabres
- IonSabres

what does somewhat long term mean.. 3 years?
Lilroot9
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.18.2012

Jul 30 @ 9:15 AM ET
James
@Account4hockey
Michael Russo also said on the Russo-Souhan show that Jake Gardiner has a somewhat long term handshake deal in place with a team that has to move out a high priced defenseman to make his cap hit fit.


So if any team dumps a big money D, they're probably signing Gardiner

- gerbe75pts


I was hearing it is the NYR. As mentioned before by an insider here, the Sabres offered a 2-year deal, not a long term. Now I do understand that the offer could have changed.

Now looking at NYR cap situation, that means they would be spending around $31m for the 7 guys (that would include Gardiner at around $6m per). That would not include RFA Deangelo or the potential buyout of Shattenkirk (which would need to happen, 2019-20 cap hit would be around $1.5m and $6m next year! ouch!). This would still see NYR a bit above the cap ceiling.

So looking at that detail, it almost can't be NYR. They would really be against the wall. Talk about trying to speed up a rebuild, they are in cap hell in year 2 (?) of the rebuild.
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jul 30 @ 9:15 AM ET
Old Town Road breaks every record And is a terrible song go America
- gerbe75pts

that is the least of the problems on the Go America list right now
The Don
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Glasgow, VA
Joined: 02.03.2007

Jul 30 @ 9:20 AM ET
Old Town Road breaks every record And is a terrible song go America
- gerbe75pts

Didn't it just break one record for longest a top the Billboard top 100? And most of the other songs on the list for longest at #1 are not too great either (in my opinion, of course) . The Top 100 is not where good music is found, just the most commercialized.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 30 @ 9:22 AM ET
I was just looking at Matt Hunwick's NHL.com page and I came across this:


Draft: 2004 BOS, 7th rd, 31st pk (224th overall)

How is that possible?

- jcragcrumple

compensatory picks back then

google is a hell of a thing
Lilroot9
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.18.2012

Jul 30 @ 9:23 AM ET
I was hearing it is the NYR. As mentioned before by an insider here, the Sabres offered a 2-year deal, not a long term. Now I do understand that the offer could have changed.

Now looking at NYR cap situation, that means they would be spending around $31m for the 7 guys (that would include Gardiner at around $6m per). That would not include RFA Deangelo or the potential buyout of Shattenkirk (which would need to happen, 2019-20 cap hit would be around $1.5m and $6m next year! ouch!). This would still see NYR a bit above the cap ceiling.

So looking at that detail, it almost can't be NYR. They would really be against the wall. Talk about trying to speed up a rebuild, they are in cap hell in year 2 (?) of the rebuild.

- Lilroot9


NYR are ~$4m above the cap right now, still need to sign Lemieux and Deangelo (those should be relatively low, maybe ~$1.2 for Lemieux and ~$2m for Deangelo), so that leaves them around $7m above the cap ceiling. Then a buyout of Shatts would save them around $5.1m (this year), so that means they are still $2 above, now burying a contract or two should get them about to the ceiling, but I am not sure where they can get Gardiner in at ~$5m+ in there. They would need to trade a few pieces to make it happen.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 30 @ 9:26 AM ET
Had turkey Polish sausage it was Actually very disappointing
- gerbe75pts


jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jul 30 @ 9:28 AM ET
compensatory picks back then

google is a hell of a thing

- homiedclown


Ah gotcha
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jul 30 @ 9:30 AM ET
Didn't it just break one record for longest a top the Billboard top 100? And most of the other songs on the list for longest at #1 are not too great either (in my opinion, of course) . The Top 100 is not where good music is found, just the most commercialized.
- The Don

making turkey polish sausage... Go America
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 30 @ 9:33 AM ET
I was just looking at Matt Hunwick's NHL.com page and I came across this:


Draft: 2004 BOS, 7th rd, 31st pk (224th overall)

How is that possible?

- jcragcrumple


Compensatory picks used to be awarded for any drafted players who weren’t signed

It went something like,
If u drafted a player in round 3, pick 20...
(and then he didn’t get signed)
then in the next draft you’d get your compensatory pick at spot 20 in round 4
So a round later

This stopped in the mid2000s i believe
Probably after the new CBA was agreed to after the lockout of ‘04 I’m guessing


*that’s how i remember it anyways
But what do i know?
I’m drunk & can’t reach the top shelf
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 30 @ 9:34 AM ET
making turkey polish sausage... Go America
- SabresFaninIndiana


Making a healthier choice is just something you do, no one else gives a poop.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jul 30 @ 9:38 AM ET
Compensatory picks used to be awarded for any drafted players who weren’t signed

It went something like,
If u drafted a player in round 3, pick 20...
(and then he didn’t get signed)
then in the next draft you’d get your compensatory pick at spot 20 in round 4
So a round later

This stopped in the mid2000s i believe
Probably after the new CBA was agreed to after the lockout of ‘04 I’m guessing


*that’s how i remember it anyways
But what do i know?
I’m drunk & can’t reach the top shelf

- jdfitz77


Thanks, I know they still exist (I think) if you take an NCAA player in the first round and they don't sign with you, but I had no idea they used to be so common.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 30 @ 9:41 AM ET
Thanks, I know they still exist (I think) if you take an NCAA player in the first round and they don't sign with you, but I had no idea they used to be so common.
- jcragcrumple

No worries
I think it used to be for every round?

I don’t remember exactly how it went,
but I’m pretty sure it was something similar to what i laid out
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 30 @ 9:42 AM ET
Thanks, I know they still exist (I think) if you take an NCAA player in the first round and they don't sign with you, but I had no idea they used to be so common.
- jcragcrumple


We'd have gotten a 3rd round pick in 2022 if Eichel didn't sign
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jul 30 @ 9:43 AM ET
We'd have gotten a 3rd round pick in 2022 if Eichel didn't sign
- TheSabresTaco




Is that true? Holy poop.
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Jul 30 @ 9:43 AM ET
We'd have gotten a 3rd round pick in 2022 if Eichel didn't sign
- TheSabresTaco

According to some...They'd probably want the pick.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 30 @ 9:45 AM ET
According to some...They'd probably want the pick.
- jochfr


Could’ve used that pick to trade for Gusev...
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jul 30 @ 9:47 AM ET
According to some...They'd probably want the pick.
- jochfr

a 3rd is basically a late first or is it a mid 6th.. i can't remember
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Jul 30 @ 9:47 AM ET
Could’ve used that pick to trade for Gusev...
- jdfitz77

We'd have to add a 6th.
PrinceChill
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.06.2014

Jul 30 @ 9:48 AM ET
Anybody know anything about a young kid Conor Garland RW from the Yotes?

47 points in 70 games between NHL and AHL.

More than ppg in Tucson and 0.5ppg in NHL

EDIT: he is my new covet for an under the radar value trade. Botts would be great to get him.

- Der Kaiser

I don’t know this player, but thanks for putting him on the radar. I don’t expect JB to make a big, high-profile move. But this type of acquisition would be both savvy and reasonable. And in a much needed position.
adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Jul 30 @ 10:03 AM ET
Chris Kunitz retired today. 4 Cups is a pretty good career.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jul 30 @ 10:05 AM ET
I don’t know this player, but thanks for putting him on the radar. I don’t expect JB to make a big, high-profile move. But this type of acquisition would be both savvy and reasonable. And in a much needed position.
- PrinceChill


Meh.
5th round pick, age 23.5.
O.50 PPG pace in AHL for 2-1/2 seasons, but did produce at slightly over 1.0 ppg in 1/3 of season in last year AHL...and about 0.35 in 1/2 season in NHL.
Maybe a late bloomer.
Give them like Scandella and a 4th, sure.
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