Nope, Kraft has too many Benjamins for that to happen. Bugs me when money and politics take over sports. Has happened in every sport though.

CFL is just such a struggle to get through until the last 5 minutes where 45 points are all of a sudden scored.
- manvanfan

I probably hate the Patriots more than anyone as a diehard lifelong Phins fan just for the 1986 AFC title game. Yes, they've cheated and won and then there's also the tuck rule game which still astounds me nearly 20 years later. However, the league has handed them discipline on a number of occasions including Brady's suspension, loss of 1st round draft pick.

They really have had elite coaching for two decades, and have trusted their draft with not that many notable UFA additions over the years. They're just a really well run team.

Against the Falcons that comeback was epic, so was his shootout with the Eagles. Still, most of the years they've won they've done it behind a great D or defensive performance.

BB is probably the greatest coach in sports history, not very likeable though.
- golfingsince

My vote goes to Scotty Bowman. No controversies or scandals marred his career.

Sam Pollock is probably the best ever.

Four superbowl MVPs. I mean, again i dont like the guy i truly dont. But he’s the best. There was some room before this latest one for debate, not now imo.
- neem55

Brady, who completed 16 of 27 passes for 145 yards and a touchdown, was named Super Bowl MVP.

He never deserved that one, I mean the Pats held the greatest show on turf to 17 points.

He himself said James White deserved it against the Falcons, even though he did put up big numbers White scored 20 points.

My vote goes to Scotty Bowman. No controversies or scandals marred his career.

Sam Pollock is probably the best ever.
- Nighthawk

Bowman, Wooden.

BB is up there. It's so much easier to have controversy now with social media and the digital age.

Bowman, Wooden.

BB is up there. It's so much easier to have controversy now with social media and the digital age.
- golfingsince

Forgot John Wooden 👍

Who is Lew Alcindor?

Who is Lew Alcindor?
- Nighthawk

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

Like Cassius Clay.

OJ will recover from these hard luck injuries and demonstrate he can be a top pairing D. The sample size shows he's got what it takes. He just needs time now.

He's had a slower path not only being a D man but his physical growth was something he needed to adjust with his game. He didn't seem comfortable with his timing and pivoting threw him off.

Plus he got frustrated being so lauded and then getting bounced around he let things get to him. I think he's now coming around. The injury bug should be gone to allow him to round out his game playing top minutes in the AHL. I say develop him with key roles down there and he'll be ready to replace Edler.
- NuckUp

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

Like Cassius Clay.
- golfingsince

Yessir 👍

Brady, who completed 16 of 27 passes for 145 yards and a touchdown, was named Super Bowl MVP.

He never deserved that one, I mean the Pats held the greatest show on turf to 17 points.

He himself said James White deserved it against the Falcons, even though he did put up big numbers White scored 20 points.
- golfingsince

Doesn’t really effect the conversation imo, he’s clearly just had the best longevity and ability to get wins out of any qb ever. Manning had great longevity but just didnt rise to the big games as often or consistently. Consistency wise, Brady has been in the MVP conversation every year for a decade or more. How many players can you say that about?

Yessir 👍
- Nighthawk

I've watched a lot of dominant basketball players over the years, he's right up there.

Him and Jordan, they always managed to release the ball above everyone. Him with the skyhook and Jordan the fadeaway.

Doesn’t really effect the conversation imo, he’s clearly just had the best longevity and ability to get wins out of any qb ever. Manning had great longevity but just didnt rise to the big games as often or consistently. Consistency wise, Brady has been in the MVP conversation every year for a decade or more. How many players can you say that about?
- neem55

As I said before, he wasn't the GOAT until that Atlanta game. Before that I would have placed Montana for sure.

The MVP's don't really do it for me because I've watched all the games. But man, 6 Super Bowls (even 5) is impressive. He did LEAD that comeback vs Atlanta, and that game makes him the GOAT imo.

I don't think it's by as much as many suggest, considering the team and their record without him.

The state of Louisiana isn’t exactly a rich state. Hurricanes & the ppl have FEMA to rely on & yet spending rude & exorbitant amounts of money on a locker room is acceptable? The article i posted earlier the player said the old LSU locker room was nicer than the Carolina Panthers have. It’s simply a gross waste of money no matter where it came from for a 12-13 game football season.
- Nighthawk

Dude, the entire NHL is a gross waste of money. This is the hill you want to die on?

Dude, the entire NHL is a gross waste of money. This is the hill you want to die on?
- 1970vintage

Amateur sport student athletes ain’t the pros. How dafuq do you make that reach.

Amateur sport student athletes ain’t the pros. How dafuq do you make that reach.
- Nighthawk

No human should earn tens of millions to play a game, or run a business or provide health care. Professional sports are a luxury that society enjoys, but doesn't really need. Drawing the line at amateur sports is hypocritical. Why do you care if one school has a $20m locker room and another has a $1m locker room? What about the multi million dollar medical equipment that many universities have that are often paid for by the same means, fund raising from the alumnus.

But oh, I'm so offended by this school spending someone else's money to build a new facility for us...

No human should earn tens of millions to play a game, or run a business or provide health care. Professional sports are a luxury that society enjoys, but doesn't really need. Drawing the line at amateur sports is hypocritical. Why do you care if one school has a $20m locker room and another has a $1m locker room? What about the multi million dollar medical equipment that many universities have that are often paid for by the same means, fund raising from the alumnus.

But oh, I'm so offended by this school spending someone else's money to build a new facility for us...
- 1970vintage

What's crazy is the owners were crying poor at the last cba and demnding players help police that and take pay cuts...... and now they're right back to signing players to 12M contracts and taking 600M payments for a franchise.
I sincerely hope the players stick to their guns if there's a lockout

No human should earn tens of millions to play a game, or run a business or provide health care. Professional sports are a luxury that society enjoys, but doesn't really need. Drawing the line at amateur sports is hypocritical. Why do you care if one school has a $20m locker room and another has a $1m locker room? What about the multi million dollar medical equipment that many universities have that are often paid for by the same means, fund raising from the alumnus.

But oh, I'm so offended by this school spending someone else's money to build a new facility for us...
- 1970vintage

The money is often designated towards a specific thing. They don't just go in and write a blank cheque for $100M, there are things they want it spent on.


Can you be critical of some of the boosters and how they earn their income? For sure, but then again I've probably bought 2 pair on Nike shoes in the past 20 years. Phil Knight alone has spent over $300M on Oregon's athletic program. I don't think he was going to sink that money into their music program.

I want to see a Ferland Horvat Miller line. They'd be a heavy line that can skate and score.

What's crazy is the owners were crying poor at the last cba and demnding players help police that and take pay cuts...... and now they're right back to signing players to 12M contracts and taking 600M payments for a franchise.
I sincerely hope the players stick to their guns if there's a lockout
- SMBDragon

Before the lockout not many teams were making money. Players salaries still account for 50% of the revenue. Having more teams being able to remain afloat allows more players to earn a living playing in the NHL. I don't think the NHLPA suffered.

I didnt watch the hlinka tourny much, the video attached is boneriffic

https://www.vancourier.co...ed-last-season-1.23889697

I want to see a Ferland Horvat Miller line. They'd be a heavy line that can skate and score.
- belcherbd

That looks good. So EP gets who: Pearson, Sven, Goldy, JV...?

The money is often designated towards a specific thing. They don't just go in and write a blank cheque for $100M, there are things they want it spent on.


Can you be critical of some of the boosters and how they earn their income? For sure, but then again I've probably bought 2 pair on Nike shoes in the past 20 years. Phil Knight alone has spent over $300M on Oregon's athletic program. I don't think he was going to sink that money into their music program.
- golfingsince

Everyone has their specific passions. For some it's sport, others it's music, others it's medical research. College/University rely heavily on past graduates during fundraising campaigns. I don't begrudge any university that has superior facilities because of their efforts. I applaud the NCAA for equalizing spending in athletics so that it isn't just men's teams receiving the benefits. I'm just saying that it seems silly to me to draw the line in the sand on what you will accept and what you won't on this particular subject. The amount of money earned in sport is obscene. In entertainment in general. Suggesting that because the athletes aren't getting paid so therefore it's bad is just naive.

I want to see a Ferland Horvat Miller line. They'd be a heavy line that can skate and score.
- belcherbd

Id much rather see pearson/bo/miller or ferland
Makes much more sense given pearson and bo chemistry we saw

Everyone has their specific passions. For some it's sport, others it's music, others it's medical research. College/University rely heavily on past graduates during fundraising campaigns. I don't begrudge any university that has superior facilities because of their efforts. I applaud the NCAA for equalizing spending in athletics so that it isn't just men's teams receiving the benefits. I'm just saying that it seems silly to me to draw the line in the sand on what you will accept and what you won't on this particular subject. The amount of money earned in sport is obscene. In entertainment in general. Suggesting that because the athletes aren't getting paid so therefore it's bad is just naive.
- 1970vintage

I agree 100%.

I wouldn't mind if the guys made a decent stipend to help supplement the cost like I said earlier, then again where do you draw the line? Are you going to get into bidding wars between schools? That's not going to help anything.

Are the volleyball players going to demand the same amount of money? Badminton? Field hockey?

College athletics 'welfare' doesn't seem like the right answer neither.