LeafGuy89
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Location: ON Joined: 05.13.2017
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The Oilers retained some of Lucic's salary didn't they? - PatC80
Lucic and a conditional pick for Neal.
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Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: The centre of the hockey universe Joined: 07.31.2006
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This is going to be a problem going forward. A bunch of RFAs getting paid on "potential" and "promise" and fail to deliver. However they all think they deserve a raise.
I think he should sign for 6 to 6.5 million. - Aaron_85
My gut feeling is that it's probably easier to predict what a guy is going to do at age 22-29 than it is to predict what he's going to do from 27-34.
The internet is littered with articles about how NHL UFA signings almost always turn out to be disasters. |
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Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: avid reader of the daily douche news Joined: 03.14.2014
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How do we feel about Trouba: 7 years X $8 million? - Atomic Wedgie
looks like the rags decided to join us in cap hell.
how nice of them. |
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Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Mitch Marner sucks Joined: 03.03.2016
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Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: The centre of the hockey universe Joined: 07.31.2006
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looks like the rags decided to join us in cap hell.
how nice of them. - Tumbleweed
Something's gotta give:
https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/rangers
They really went for the "reload, not rebuild" thingy, didn't they? |
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Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Mitch Marner sucks Joined: 03.03.2016
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How do we feel about Trouba: 7 years X $8 million? - Atomic Wedgie
Rielly’s getting 10+ in 3 years... |
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Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: The centre of the hockey universe Joined: 07.31.2006
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Rielly’s getting 10+ in 3 years... - Steven_Seagull
Yup. |
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Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Mitch Marner sucks Joined: 03.03.2016
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Yup. - Atomic Wedgie
Trade Marner |
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Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON Joined: 09.20.2010
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there's definitely a generational difference... the previous generations wanted to be rewarded for what they had done... the young guys want to get paid for what they "MIGHT" do.
- BorjeFan4Ever
So which would you rather pay for?
Big bucks to someone older who score 90pts several in a row several years ago but will quicklt age and never reach that again.
Or
Someone whos young, has score 70 - 90pts each season over a couple of season and has the potential to continue to score at that pace or better for several years to come. |
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Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Whenever, wherever, ON Joined: 06.27.2013
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yeah, so neal has lot tough miles on his body.
and he is coming off a career low season.
and may have lost a step, or 2.
and he'll be 32 in september.
and has 4 more years.
at 5.7M.
but, he wants to prove he is still an nhl player.
and he's been working out harder than he has in years.
and he has poured down a poop ton of gary roberts shakes.
i really can't see how this continues being terrible for edmonton. - Tumbleweed
If you ever look at the curve grading on a player's performance graph, there is a noticeable decline that does start around 30, usually plateau's for a couple of years, and gradually goes down again - but significantly so again around 35. The one thing that is common is that there's an uptick somewhere around 32/33.
I think it's this type of situation: The way you worked out in your 20s was hard, but after 30 it requires more effort, more attention to your diet, and more focus to get your body to where it needs to be. It requires . . .more. And that's not easy to give. But I think athletes often find a way to get there, but it's just not sustainable because every year, it's that much harder to keep your body in that shape.
So I wouldn't be surprised if Neal can find some reserves in the tank, but I'd still expect 3 of those 4 years to be pretty awful. |
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Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON Joined: 09.20.2010
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Great trade for Edmonton
Neal can be bought out at much lower cap hit and he doesnt need to be protected in expansion draft.
Lucic will take up a protected spot |
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Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 04.22.2014
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How is that a problem. Of course you pay for potential just like you draft for potential. It’s up to the team to determine the potential value of a player and negotiate accordingly. Good teams are better at making those assessments. - Canada Cup
Because itll lead to overpaying these guys coming off the deal. If you dont see the problem then I cant help you. |
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Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON Joined: 09.20.2010
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Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 04.22.2014
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Have they ever done the rebuild thingy? - Fakepartofme
I dont think so but I give them credit for what they've done here.
Likely Kreider is moved at some point. I would be surprised if he isnt after his name being in trade talks for so long. |
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Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today? Joined: 06.30.2006
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How do we feel about Trouba: 7 years X $8 million? - Atomic Wedgie
Bye Barrie.
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Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today? Joined: 06.30.2006
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yeah, so neal has lot tough miles on his body.
and he is coming off a career low season.
and may have lost a step, or 2.
and he'll be 32 in september.
and has 4 more years.
at 5.7M.
but, he wants to prove he is still an nhl player.
and he's been working out harder than he has in years.
and he has poured down a poop ton of gary roberts shakes.
i really can't see how this continues being terrible for edmonton. - Tumbleweed
Is this a sonnet?
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Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today? Joined: 06.30.2006
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Great trade for Edmonton
Neal can be bought out at much lower cap hit and he doesnt need to be protected in expansion draft.
Lucic will take up a protected spot - Fakepartofme
I don't understand. Why is the Neal buy out that much less and why would you have to protect Lucic but not Neal?
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Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 04.22.2014
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Bye Barrie. - Aetherial
Right after he wins the cup as a leaf |
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Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 04.22.2014
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I don't understand. Why is the Neal buy out that much less and why would you have to protect Lucic but not Neal? - Aetherial
I dont know the buyout issue but Neal likely doesnt have a No trade whereas Lucic does..in the expansion, no trades have to be protected. |
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Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Mitch Marner sucks Joined: 03.03.2016
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Is this a sonnet? - Aetherial
I think Dougie is looking at your avatar. |
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Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: The centre of the hockey universe Joined: 07.31.2006
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I don't understand. Why is the Neal buy out that much less and why would you have to protect Lucic but not Neal? - Aetherial
It has to do with the bonuses.
But no, I can't explain it. |
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RatedR80
Edmonton Oilers |
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Joined: 10.17.2013
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I dont know the buyout issue but Neal likely doesnt have a No trade whereas Lucic does..in the expansion, no trades have to be protected. - Aaron_85
Here is the thing....I think once a player waives his NMC it’s void for the rest of the contract....I could be wrong but I think if it’s waived once it’s gone for good |
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Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Not here to sell jerseys , ON Joined: 07.06.2007
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Because itll lead to overpaying these guys coming off the deal. If you dont see the problem then I cant help you. - Aaron_85
Teams assess potential and pay accordingly. If they do a good job they end up with good contracts. Obviously, past performance is a key factor in assessing potential. It’s not that tough a concept and you’re right, you probably can’t help me. |
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mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Vancouver Island, BC Joined: 01.18.2015
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Have they ever done the rebuild thingy? - Fakepartofme
Not until Shatty snd Staal get sent to Robidas Island |
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Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today? Joined: 06.30.2006
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I think Dougie is looking at your avatar. - Steven_Seagull
Carbo-Loading!!
I do that all the time. Not before competition, because I don't compete at anything, just all the time. |
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