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bennythehat
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 03.23.2015

Jul 18 @ 8:54 PM ET
This is not true,
- Ross77


Which part ?
grahamzky
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

Jul 18 @ 10:20 PM ET
Conjecture, yes, but think about how you would feel if a co-worker or teammate was not putting forth an effort that you feel is acceptable, yet, that person gets coddled by management. To add insult to injury, said person is in line for a massive raise and will likely make more than you.
- bennythehat


Yes, exactly! 100%! At least he "thinks" he is line for a massive raise, forget the effort and especially the intensity.
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Jul 18 @ 10:25 PM ET
Yes, exactly! 100%! At least he "thinks" he is line for a massive raise, forget the effort and especially the intensity.
- grahamzky


Holy sh*t, you’re all going insane. Laine has been the most consistently over-exposed and mismanaged player on the team since the start of the Little-Laine experiment. Kyle Connor has literally all the same weaknesses as Laine (trade skating for hockey IQ issues), and less of the strengths, but he’s beloved because he inhales Scheifele time. He falls apart completely away from 55. And I f**kin love Kyle Connor!

You want a player who’s had his every whim bowed to by management? Been given easy money minutes with top players? Put in a lacklustre effort in all 3 zones for months at a time? Had a lot of (rumoured) locker room issues? This is a real fun one, because Wheeler just got a huge deal, and I’ve heard a lot of rumblings that Scheifele and Wheeler are totally at odds with each other these days. Perfect fit.
I suggest you take a look at Blake Wheeler’s 2018-19 season.

For a better example of coddling than Laine is, you can also use Kyle Connor.
For a better example of coasting than Laine is, you can use Mark Scheifele.
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Jul 18 @ 10:30 PM ET
He has 50 + talent, but just expects to be fed the puck all night long.
- bennythehat


Considering he hasn’t been on a line with a playmaker since his rookie year, excluding the Stastny run, and that he’s been like 80% of the shot generation for his entire line since... I don’t think he’s being fed at all, let alone having an expectation of it
bennythehat
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 03.23.2015

Jul 18 @ 11:31 PM ET
Let’s sign Laine to a long term deal and then give up whatever we need to, in order to get him whichever Centerman in the NHL that he wants to play with. 😀😀😀
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Jul 19 @ 12:00 AM ET
Let’s sign Laine to a long term deal and then give up whatever we need to, in order to get him whichever Centerman in the NHL that he wants to play with. 😀😀😀
- bennythehat


Or, alternatively, just give him a Scheifele?
Tommycasino
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.30.2018

Jul 19 @ 12:22 AM ET
This was my 2 cents regarding the Jets play after their Feb 20th game against the Avalanche...

Basically, Maurice made bad decisions, seems like he was favoring certain players and the overall effort was brutal.. The season went from bad to worse after that game..Maurice needs to go...


Are you feeling better after the 7-1 thumping by the Avalanche? The Jets were never in this game. Either the coach is not getting them ready to play or they have nothing left in the tank.
Here is what I noticed tonight:
1) Jets were beaten to every loose puck
2) They continue to get outshot by a large margin
3) If not for Hellybuck it could easily have been double figures
4) 5 on 5 the Jets plain ol suck, they barely touch the puck
5) The Jets defense played like Matadors as the Avalanche forwards skated by them time and time again
6) The one part of their game that was working was the power play and now that has gone AWOL
7) The Jets are too predictable, they run the same plays and teams have them figured out
8) Bad Coaching Decision #1 - Why leave Hellybuck to get thrown to the wolves? I mean Hellybuck is your ‘guy’, he is the one that has to play like he did tonight only maybe a bit better if you have any chance to win a cup and Maurice decided to leave him in there to get shelled? Starting the third he should have had his ass planted on the bench, the game was over and Hellybuck should have been taken out
9) What is going on with Laine? Honestly they need to sit him for a couple games and let him know that they want him to watch a game or 2 then get back out with a bit of a fresh outlook and try again or send him to the moose for a couple weeks or trade him. Right now he is so confused he is making bad decisions, he should be shooting when he passes and passing when he shoots
10) Bad coaching decision #2 - Why in the world was Maurice double shifting Wheeler and Scheifele in the 3rd? The game is out of reach and every time lines changed Wheeler and Scheifele or both were on the ice... less than a minute left in the game and they were both on the ice, why? Rest them! When it was 5-1 Wheeler/Scheifele should have been in the dressing room
11) Bad player decision- Why was Scheifele trying to fight? If he got lucky and landed a punch he could break his hand and the season would be over. See (#10).
12) What is with this team and all the penalties? Simple they stop skating and get beat out of position and take a penalty. What was with all the extra shots after the whistle? Old habits coming back out of frustration
13) Their entire game is off, the passes were terrible, tons of giveaways (Patrick Turnover Laine), defense looked slow and caught looking instead taking the man, could not get the puck out of their end, they took dumb penalties, both special teams (PP & PK) were anything but, the Jets were playing dump and chase and that is what they did all night was chase the Avalanche
14) That could have been the ugliest Jet game I have ever seen
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Jul 19 @ 9:08 AM ET
Holy sh*t, you’re all going insane. Laine has been the most consistently over-exposed and mismanaged player on the team since the start of the Little-Laine experiment. Kyle Connor has literally all the same weaknesses as Laine (trade skating for hockey IQ issues), and less of the strengths, but he’s beloved because he inhales Scheifele time. He falls apart completely away from 55. And I f**kin love Kyle Connor!

You want a player who’s had his every whim bowed to by management? Been given easy money minutes with top players? Put in a lacklustre effort in all 3 zones for months at a time? Had a lot of (rumoured) locker room issues? This is a real fun one, because Wheeler just got a huge deal, and I’ve heard a lot of rumblings that Scheifele and Wheeler are totally at odds with each other these days. Perfect fit.
I suggest you take a look at Blake Wheeler’s 2018-19 season.

For a better example of coddling than Laine is, you can also use Kyle Connor.
For a better example of coasting than Laine is, you can use Mark Scheifele.

- Rexypoo


This is 1000% true but doesn’t fit with the stance of many in here so will be quickly disregarded.
I’ll add, if some in here overlooked half of Laines troubles like they do with 55’s effort and backchecking we’d all have nothing to talk about
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Jul 19 @ 9:09 AM ET
Let’s sign Laine to a long term deal and then give up whatever we need to, in order to get him whichever Centerman in the NHL that he wants to play with. 😀😀😀
- bennythehat

Or we split up 55&26 and just not play Laine with Little. But wait, coach wheeler wouldn’t allow that.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Jul 19 @ 10:37 AM ET
What I find most funny is you can’t find one person to say Laine had a good year and yet he still scored 30 goals at age 20.
30 goals!! And we look at hat like it’s a bad thing in here. That’s funny and sad.

- Ross77


Kind of. The issue there is that he's a one trick pony. He does one thing extremely well and basically nothing else.

He puts the puck in the net with enough frequency that the positive outweighs the negative for sure, it just makes you wish he could contribute more in any other aspect.
islansjet
Joined: 03.13.2017

Jul 19 @ 11:12 AM ET
This was my 2 cents regarding the Jets play after their Feb 20th game against the Avalanche...

Basically, Maurice made bad decisions, seems like he was favoring certain players and the overall effort was brutal.. The season went from bad to worse after that game..Maurice needs to go...


Are you feeling better after the 7-1 thumping by the Avalanche? The Jets were never in this game. Either the coach is not getting them ready to play or they have nothing left in the tank.
Here is what I noticed tonight:
1) Jets were beaten to every loose puck
2) They continue to get outshot by a large margin
3) If not for Hellybuck it could easily have been double figures
4) 5 on 5 the Jets plain ol suck, they barely touch the puck
5) The Jets defense played like Matadors as the Avalanche forwards skated by them time and time again
6) The one part of their game that was working was the power play and now that has gone AWOL
7) The Jets are too predictable, they run the same plays and teams have them figured out
8) Bad Coaching Decision #1 - Why leave Hellybuck to get thrown to the wolves? I mean Hellybuck is your ‘guy’, he is the one that has to play like he did tonight only maybe a bit better if you have any chance to win a cup and Maurice decided to leave him in there to get shelled? Starting the third he should have had his ass planted on the bench, the game was over and Hellybuck should have been taken out
9) What is going on with Laine? Honestly they need to sit him for a couple games and let him know that they want him to watch a game or 2 then get back out with a bit of a fresh outlook and try again or send him to the moose for a couple weeks or trade him. Right now he is so confused he is making bad decisions, he should be shooting when he passes and passing when he shoots
10) Bad coaching decision #2 - Why in the world was Maurice double shifting Wheeler and Scheifele in the 3rd? The game is out of reach and every time lines changed Wheeler and Scheifele or both were on the ice... less than a minute left in the game and they were both on the ice, why? Rest them! When it was 5-1 Wheeler/Scheifele should have been in the dressing room
11) Bad player decision- Why was Scheifele trying to fight? If he got lucky and landed a punch he could break his hand and the season would be over. See (#10).
12) What is with this team and all the penalties? Simple they stop skating and get beat out of position and take a penalty. What was with all the extra shots after the whistle? Old habits coming back out of frustration
13) Their entire game is off, the passes were terrible, tons of giveaways (Patrick Turnover Laine), defense looked slow and caught looking instead taking the man, could not get the puck out of their end, they took dumb penalties, both special teams (PP & PK) were anything but, the Jets were playing dump and chase and that is what they did all night was chase the Avalanche
14) That could have been the ugliest Jet game I have ever seen

- Tommycasino

I agree with this post but you failed to mention the Jets lack of a sane defensive system and horribly predictable zone breakout. If Little was the answer as Laine's and Ehlers center why did the Jets trade for a #2 center the last 2 seasons? Get off Laine's back he's a 21 year old kid that plays great and 30 other NHL teams and fans would love to have him. The common denominator to the Jets problems is Maurice. He doesn't know how to handle young talented players and refuses to run any system that wasn't popular since the 1990's. Maurice has to go.
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Jul 19 @ 11:17 AM ET
I agree with this post but you failed to mention the Jets lack of a sane defensive system and horribly predictable zone breakout. If Little was the answer as Laine's and Ehlers center why did the Jets trade for a #2 center the last 2 seasons? Get off Laine's back he's a 21 year old kid that plays great and 30 other NHL teams and fans would love to have him. The common denominator to the Jets problems is Maurice. He doesn't know how to handle young talented players and refuses to run any system that wasn't popular since the 1990's. Maurice has to go.
- islansjet


YEP
foxbat
Joined: 06.30.2016

Jul 19 @ 1:33 PM ET
Holy sh*t, you’re all going insane. Laine has been the most consistently over-exposed and mismanaged player on the team since the start of the Little-Laine experiment. Kyle Connor has literally all the same weaknesses as Laine (trade skating for hockey IQ issues), and less of the strengths, but he’s beloved because he inhales Scheifele time. He falls apart completely away from 55. And I f**kin love Kyle Connor!

You want a player who’s had his every whim bowed to by management? Been given easy money minutes with top players? Put in a lacklustre effort in all 3 zones for months at a time? Had a lot of (rumoured) locker room issues? This is a real fun one, because Wheeler just got a huge deal, and I’ve heard a lot of rumblings that Scheifele and Wheeler are totally at odds with each other these days. Perfect fit.
I suggest you take a look at Blake Wheeler’s 2018-19 season.

For a better example of coddling than Laine is, you can also use Kyle Connor.
For a better example of coasting than Laine is, you can use Mark Scheifele.

- Rexypoo


This is exactly what I have been saying all year. It amazes me that 55, a perceived leader on this team who is in his prime years gets away with being so god damn lazy, completely unwilling to go to the front of the net (o goals via deflection this year for a #1 Centre is absolutely unheard of), can’t win a puck battle on the boards, doesn’t hit, can’t win a draw & incessantly whining to the refs every single night & yet he gets a free-pass from fans. 55 has a great shot & can set-up plays... that’s it.

Imagine how many more goals Laine would have on the PP if someone would actually try standing in front & screening the goalie instead of expecting him to blast it cleanly every, single, time. This team struggled with scoring before him & they still would if he wasn’t here.

Rexy, you are bang on with your assessment of KC, but people actually think he’s more valuable than Laine & does more for the team?

Yes, Wheelers play was sorely lacking this year, especially at the start of year (medical issue that I can’t elaborate on - cleared up by November) & down the stretch. Laine carried the #1 line when he was given the opportunity. He was by far the only guy on that line giving any effort, yet this city wants to bash a 20-year old?
foxbat
Joined: 06.30.2016

Jul 19 @ 1:34 PM ET
I agree with this post but you failed to mention the Jets lack of a sane defensive system and horribly predictable zone breakout. If Little was the answer as Laine's and Ehlers center why did the Jets trade for a #2 center the last 2 seasons? Get off Laine's back he's a 21 year old kid that plays great and 30 other NHL teams and fans would love to have him. The common denominator to the Jets problems is Maurice. He doesn't know how to handle young talented players and refuses to run any system that wasn't popular since the 1990's. Maurice has to go.
- islansjet


Absolutely!
foxbat
Joined: 06.30.2016

Jul 19 @ 1:35 PM ET
What I find most funny is you can’t find one person to say Laine had a good year and yet he still scored 30 goals at age 20.
30 goals!! And we look at hat like it’s a bad thing in here. That’s funny and sad.

- Ross77


Yup, I just don’t get it.
grahamzky
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

Jul 19 @ 2:10 PM ET
Yup, I just don’t get it.
- foxbat


Hopefully our "generational player" Patrik is considered just that by 30 other teams, and some GM signs "the plodder" to an offer sheet of $10.6 million.

Problem being other teams have scouts - with eyes!
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Jul 19 @ 4:06 PM ET
Hopefully our "generational player" Patrik is considered just that by 30 other teams, and some GM signs "the plodder" to an offer sheet of $10.6 million.

Problem being other teams have scouts - with eyes!

- grahamzky


The eye test isn’t useful if you have no idea what you’re looking at. Keep that in mind when you talk about using one’s eyes
bennythehat
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 03.23.2015

Jul 19 @ 4:46 PM ET
My eyes do require glasses, however they are not rose -coloured glasses.
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