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2 more months, bchl exhibition august 27th. |
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1970vintage
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That trend has been happy basically since the year of LE, KO, AL, ML, DB were handed 6 year deals that none of them have turned out well.
Paid earlier and paid before you deserve to be paid. Paid where the cap would project you to be paid.
You can get paid without breaking your teams cap though. Should a player like Boeser be worried about taking a 3 year deal at say 6.5 to get possibly 10 for 8 years after that? - manvanfan
This is what I’m saying. I think the best young players will be angling to a) get a significant pay bump coming off their ELC - in the $7m range, but choose to sign shorter deals so that b) they can sign their monster contract when they are 26/27 instead of 29/30.
It will amount to teams paying higher salaries for younger players in their prime years and lower (relatively) salaries for the veteran guys who have proven it but are declining.
I mean, I guess it’s already happening, but I think it will continue to go that way even more. |
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Location: Cumberland, BC Joined: 03.18.2010
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deanofnucks
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 02.08.2008
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Carole I regularly read your articles and quite respect your open mindedness to the general sentiments of other people around hockey circles. However, when it comes to the "Value" of contracts I feel it is a quicksand topic of discussion.
Like all Canadian teams - even Toronto and Edmonton - where the top end players have higher ceilings in my opinion : Vancouver is in the basket of competing against large US markets with several opportunities to either seek anonymity or tax savings or both.
I know for the past 15 years or more the buzz word here in Vancouver is having to pay more to get the top end talent to be attracted to come spend their careers or a large portion in Canada - AND on the west coast where travel is 3 or 4 X that of the eastern seaboard teams
So in a nutshell - there is really NO Value in this argument of best value in terms of contracts because it is primarily determined by the UFA preferences. Tyler Myers for example would not be here if it weren't for some of these factors at play. #1. His wife is from the area #2. He was moving from a worse (sorry to my Manitoba relatives) market as far as amenities #3 He WAS paid top dollar and even at $6M he is regarded as a bargain given the scarcity of R-Hand shot defencemen - something the Canucks were specifically short of.
Thanks for your work and posted articles Keep the good work up We all appreciate it !! |
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Location: The Clit Whisperer Joined: 10.22.2011
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If the team is in the position to spend to the cap, they should do it. But hey, be a crusty whiner if you want. They haven't played the games yet. - micah555
Exactly, so everyone's opinion at this point is valid because predicting the future is subjective.
For every crusty whiner there is a pom pom waiving, glitter dust sprinkling, glee fairy. |
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Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC Joined: 04.26.2012
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Exactly, so everyone's opinion at this point is valid because predicting the future is subjective.
For every crusty whiner there is a pom pom waiving, glitter dust sprinkling, glee fairy. - bloatedmosquito
You realize you've summoned the pariah right? |
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LordHumungous
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Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla! Joined: 08.15.2014
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I’m not sure who the tweeners are? I mean, I don’t hate the moves this off season, does that upgrade me from hater to tweener? Or am I a hater to the core? I just don’t know anymore... - 1970vintage
lol hard to say.
Having baby back ribs tonight w/garlic mashed potatoes any wine recommendations?? |
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boonerbuck
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Location: Not Quesnel, BC Joined: 10.11.2005
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lol hard to say.
Having baby back ribs tonight w/garlic mashed potatoes any wine recommendations?? - LordHumungous
Anything but save the Gretzky for KD night.
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LordHumungous
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Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla! Joined: 08.15.2014
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Anything but save the Gretzky for KD night. - boonerbuck
Agreed the Gretzky wine is crap. Sobeys had them on sale and I tried one and dumped most of it. Brutal. |
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Exactly, so everyone's opinion at this point is valid because predicting the future is subjective.
For every crusty whiner there is a pom pom waiving, glitter dust sprinkling, glee fairy. - bloatedmosquito
I've got all angles covered . I am a crusty bastard and a pom pom waiver .
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bloatedmosquito
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Location: The Clit Whisperer Joined: 10.22.2011
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You realize you've summoned the pariah right? - VanHockeyGuy
I was more concerned with the "fairy" word. I literally meant the Tinkerbelle kind.
Held my breath when I pushed Submit. |
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bloatedmosquito
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Location: The Clit Whisperer Joined: 10.22.2011
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I've got all angles covered . I am a crusty bastard and a pom pom waiver . - VANTEL
It definitely pays to have multiple personalities in here. |
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Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC Joined: 04.26.2012
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bloatedmosquito
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Location: The Clit Whisperer Joined: 10.22.2011
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Agreed the Gretzky wine is crap. Sobeys had them on sale and I tried one and dumped most of it. Brutal. - LordHumungous
Never. You use it in cooking. Spaghetti sauce especially. Makes no difference how poopy it is.
Get an ice cube tray and fill it with poop wine. Freezes enough to be put in a big ziplock container and then you can just use a few cubes when needed. |
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Marwood
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Location: Cumberland, BC Joined: 03.18.2010
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lol hard to say.
Having baby back ribs tonight w/garlic mashed potatoes any wine recommendations?? - LordHumungous
No. |
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manvanfan
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Location: MB Joined: 01.21.2012
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This is what I’m saying. I think the best young players will be angling to a) get a significant pay bump coming off their ELC - in the $7m range, but choose to sign shorter deals so that b) they can sign their monster contract when they are 26/27 instead of 29/30.
It will amount to teams paying higher salaries for younger players in their prime years and lower (relatively) salaries for the veteran guys who have proven it but are declining.
I mean, I guess it’s already happening, but I think it will continue to go that way even more. - 1970vintage
That's what we're saying. |
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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: MB Joined: 01.21.2012
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Some, I mean most people are too soft for Manitoba. - manvanfan
I know when I go camping I like outdoor plumbing. Not a fan at all of the hole in the ground out house. |
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manvanfan
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Location: MB Joined: 01.21.2012
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Arthur Staple of The Athletic: Sources are saying that there is a seems to be a stalemate around the league with regards to free agents and potential trades. This is partially due to the group of unsigned RFAs that includes the likes of Mitch Marner, Brayden Point, Kyle Connor and Patrik Laine. |
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Arthur Staple of The Athletic: Sources are saying that there is a seems to be a stalemate around the league with regards to free agents and potential trades. This is partially due to the group of unsigned RFAs that includes the likes of Mitch Marner, Brayden Point, Kyle Connor and Patrik Laine. - manvanfan
Glad to see the owners fighting back |
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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: MB Joined: 01.21.2012
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I know when I go camping I like outdoor plumbing. Not a fan at all of the hole in the ground out house. - VANTEL
Been to 3 different camp grounds in the past month and I haven't been to them in years. They have all built nice new bathrooms around the camp grounds. It's much more luxury then when I went as a kid. |
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Been to 3 different camp grounds in the past month and I haven't been to them in years. They have all built nice new bathrooms around the camp grounds. It's much more luxury then when I went as a kid. - manvanfan
I would hold it in for a week if I had to
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bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: The Clit Whisperer Joined: 10.22.2011
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Some, I mean most people are too soft for Manitoba. - manvanfan
Yeah, most people are too soft to live in North Korea too.
So what's your point? |
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boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Not Quesnel, BC Joined: 10.11.2005
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I know when I go camping I like outdoor plumbing. Not a fan at all of the hole in the ground out house. - VANTEL
Open pit toilet. Your bag is like a mosquito version of a humming bird feeder.
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