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ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 18 @ 11:49 AM ET
Wrong.

Read the last line.

What Evidence Can Be Presented
The evidence that can be used in arbitration cases includes:

The player's "overall performance" including statistics in all previous seasons
Injuries, illnesses, and the number of games played
The player's length of service with the team and in the NHL
The player's "overall contribution" to the team's success or failure
The player's "special qualities of leadership or public appeal"
The performance and salary of any player believed to be comparable to the player in the dispute

- Powerslave


Guaranteed an arbitrator literally goes “lol that’s a joke” and that contract gets thrown out the window during the process.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 18 @ 11:49 AM ET
There is no reason to be excited for him.

The dude asked to be sent to the minors cause he couldn’t hack it.

If he produces, great. But I expect little to nothing from him.

- ImThatGuy


If you've got Okposo, Reinhart and Sheary playing RW, you're condeming VO to Rochester or press box for Lazar. Sounds like an awesome way to win a game.
Swedish_Jesus
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 07.02.2019

Jul 18 @ 11:52 AM ET
aside from ror

how many former sabres do we miss from the last 5 years

I can't think of any

- homiedclown


I wouldn’t mind still having Zadorov and Compher.
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jul 18 @ 11:53 AM ET
Guaranteed an arbitrator literally goes “lol that’s a joke” and that contract gets thrown out the window during the process.
- ImThatGuy




The arbitrator LITERALLY says "it's a joke"?

I highly doubt that.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jul 18 @ 11:53 AM ET
A player chooses to sign a 1 year deal well below what his market should be

It is NOT cap circumvention

Like what was posted prior what happens if he gets hurt? What happens if he doesn't produce?

Again it's a risk they player took

- Stripes77


Again, it is if they they say it is. 30 teams should be complaining right now, and I guarantee the league is carefully considering their options.
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jul 18 @ 11:55 AM ET
aside from ror

how many former sabres do we miss from the last 5 years

I can't think of any

- homiedclown

SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jul 18 @ 11:56 AM ET
Alexander Nylander canceled his vacation on short notice so that he could join the Blackhawks' development camp.
Chicago acquired Nylander from Buffalo last week, so until then he obviously wasn't planning on attending the Blackhawks camp. Once the trade happen though, he wanted to start his time with the Blackhawks off on the right foot. Blackhawks GM Stan Bowman took note of that. "It was pretty short notice when I talked to him the day of the trade and said, ‘We’d love to have you in Chicago if you can make it work,’" Bowman said. "I think he did have a vacation planned, but he canceled that to come here, and that shows his desire to acclimate with our group right away." He'll be a serious contender for a roster spot during training camp.


Guess he found his love for the game.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jul 18 @ 11:56 AM ET
The paper contract is all that matters though

Any crappy lawyer can argue that

- Stripes77


Sounds like your world is a pretty simple place.
adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Jul 18 @ 11:58 AM ET
aside from ror

how many former sabres do we miss from the last 5 years

I can't think of any

- homiedclown

I actually wouldn't mind Zadorov, Mcnabb or Foligno. If you could rid the team of Hunwick, Scandella, Nelson and Bogo and replace them with Zadorov and Mcnabb on the D, and replace Sobotka or Wilson with Foligno then I think we are a much tougher team to play against.
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jul 18 @ 11:59 AM ET
Alexander Nylander canceled his vacation on short notice so that he could join the Blackhawks' development camp.
Chicago acquired Nylander from Buffalo last week, so until then he obviously wasn't planning on attending the Blackhawks camp. Once the trade happen though, he wanted to start his time with the Blackhawks off on the right foot. Blackhawks GM Stan Bowman took note of that. "It was pretty short notice when I talked to him the day of the trade and said, ‘We’d love to have you in Chicago if you can make it work,’" Bowman said. "I think he did have a vacation planned, but he canceled that to come here, and that shows his desire to acclimate with our group right away." He'll be a serious contender for a roster spot during training camp.


Guess he found his love for the game.

- SABRES 89



Where is Gerbe with his, "Great! Now I'm going to have to watch Nylander lift the Conn Smythe! "?
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jul 18 @ 12:01 PM ET
All of you are wrong.

There's only one person whose services will be missed
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 18 @ 12:02 PM ET
Where is Gerbe with his, "Great! Now I'm going to have to watch Nylander lift the Conn Smythe! "?
- Powerslave


It's things like this that suggest to me that Botterill didn't give a poop if Nylander came because he was just going to trade him anyways.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 18 @ 12:02 PM ET
All of you are wrong.

There's only one person whose services will be missed

- jcragcrumple


lol
adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Jul 18 @ 12:03 PM ET
Guaranteed an arbitrator literally goes “lol that’s a joke” and that contract gets thrown out the window during the process.
- ImThatGuy

Wonder if it's similar to scoring in sports like diving or gymnastics where they throw out the highest and lowest scores. There has to be a comparable that signed a contract that is way too high that would cancel out this contract.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jul 18 @ 12:03 PM ET
All of you are wrong.

There's only one person whose services will be missed

- jcragcrumple



HUBIE?
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 18 @ 12:05 PM ET
Again, it is if they they say it is. 30 teams should be complaining right now, and I guarantee the league is carefully considering their options.
- Lunaion


I haven’t seen any reports to say otherwise.

If this were the Sabres and they signed a 40 point player to a 1 mil contract. I would be ecstatic, and so would everyone else here.

We’d all be female doging how it’s not cap circumvention, but it’s smart.
lulags
Buffalo Sabres
Location: St Louis
Joined: 02.24.2007

Jul 18 @ 12:07 PM ET
https://www.sabrespace.co...r-for-the-buffalo-sabres/

Good read
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 18 @ 12:07 PM ET
Wonder if it's similar to scoring in sports like diving or gymnastics where they throw out the highest and lowest scores. There has to be a comparable that signed a contract that is way too high that would cancel out this contract.
- adambuffalo


I don’t think it has to be outliers in each side.
An Arbitrator should be smart enough to go “that contract is poop and not comparable in my decision”
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jul 18 @ 12:08 PM ET
I don’t think it has to be outliers in each side.
An Arbitrator should be smart enough to go “that contract is poop and not comparable in my decision”

- ImThatGuy


Right?

Someone overpays for someone and someone underpays someone

A basic arbitrator throws those 2 away

They don't use just 1 players salary

It's statstics

Throw out the anomalies and go from there
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jul 18 @ 12:12 PM ET
I haven’t seen any reports to say otherwise.

If this were the Sabres and they signed a 40 point player to a 1 mil contract. I would be ecstatic, and so would everyone else here.

We’d all be female doging how it’s not cap circumvention, but it’s smart.

- ImThatGuy


Of course it's good for the team that does it. The question is whether it's good for the league, and my answer would be no
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jul 18 @ 12:13 PM ET
It worked for the Sabres and Drury, Right?
- Der Kaiser



Has everything in your life gone exactly as planned?
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jul 18 @ 12:15 PM ET
What if the team kind of internally markets him opening him up for some over the top endorsement deal
- SabresFaninIndiana



Good point,

Toronto comes to mind
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jul 18 @ 12:18 PM ET
Has everything in your life gone exactly as planned?
- Boss34


Do you think I would be posting on this site if it had?
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jul 18 @ 12:19 PM ET
Good point,

Toronto comes to mind

- Boss34


Tell Kyle Okposo there's a $6m job at the water authority if he retires
Frizzlefry
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Don't get so high and mighty about your superiority over Lockport, NY
Joined: 10.10.2015

Jul 18 @ 12:21 PM ET
Big risk for Labanc,honestly. If he has a bad year or suffers a bad injury (I hope not), it could really make this whole situation a lot more dramatic.
- Phatjohnsn


He's taking all the risk, imo. Not sure there are a lot of players that would want to take the risk.
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