There's talk that Kevin Labanc's 1 year, $1 million contract was cap circumvention by the Sharks.

yes but when I brought it up, I was forced to wear the scarlet letter, and I have no longer posted about what I heard from those years
- homiedclown

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There's talk that Kevin Labanc's 1 year, $1 million contract was cap circumvention by the Sharks.
- Powerslave

Curious as to why. Have a link.

Searched on the google. No luck.

Curious as to why. Have a link.

Searched on the google. No luck.
- ImThatGuy

I just read something where they're being called out because he's clearly worth more than that, after having two nice seasons.

The league is being pressured to watch the situation come January, if he signs a lucrative extension. Kind of like, "hey, take this 1 million NOW, and come January, we'll take care of you".

There's talk that Kevin Labanc's 1 year, $1 million contract was cap circumvention by the Sharks.
- Powerslave

Handshake deals that they'll pay him what he deserves plus bonuses? Hope they get nailed for that poop.

I just read something where they're being called out because he's clearly worth more than that, after having two nice seasons.

The league is being pressured to watch the situation come January, if he signs a lucrative extension. Kind of like, "hey, take this 1 million NOW, and come January, we'll take care of you".
- Powerslave

Why does January matter?

Why does January matter?
- TheSabresTaco

He can sign an extension then, can't he?

He can sign an extension then, can't he?
- Powerslave

Yup

From Spector's page and 550s interview with Jeff Hamilton yesterday:

Jets left-winger Nikolaj Ehlers has come up in trade rumors. Hamilton doesn’t think he’s a fit in Buffalo, pointing out the Sabres are already deep at left wing. He suggests perhaps a package of promising Jack Roslovic and veteran center Mathieu Perreault.
SPECTOR’S NOTE: The Jets could use an experience top-four, right-side rearguard. It remains to be seen if they’re seriously eyeing Ristolainen and if they can come up with an enticing trade package to get him.

I just read something where they're being called out because he's clearly worth more than that, after having two nice seasons.

The league is being pressured to watch the situation come January, if he signs a lucrative extension. Kind of like, "hey, take this 1 million NOW, and come January, we'll take care of you".
- Powerslave

This probably goes on behind the scenes often.

Many of the players and agents have been long time friends or former teammates ect.

Good post

I just read something where they're being called out because he's clearly worth more than that, after having two nice seasons.

The league is being pressured to watch the situation come January, if he signs a lucrative extension. Kind of like, "hey, take this 1 million NOW, and come January, we'll take care of you".
- Powerslave

Not sure how that is circumvention though. Lebanc has to sign the contract still.

Other Teams just mad I guess.

If he wants to stay in SJ and make less then fine.

I don’t see how it is different from an aging star that goes and sign a 1 year low dollar contract to try and win a cup.

Not sure how that is circumvention though. Lebanc has to sign the contract still.

Other Teams just mad I guess.

If he wants to stay in SJ and make less then fine.

I don’t see how it is different from an aging star that goes and sign a 1 year low dollar contract to try and win a cup.
- ImThatGuy

Because that aging guy is actually worth the contract. Labanc was severely lowballed. However, he didn't need to sign it. We'll see what kind of cap and bonuses come from his extension

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- homiedclown

Sergio played well today it looks like

I am nervous about the weather and how it will affect Tiger and his back

Not sure how that is circumvention though. Lebanc has to sign the contract still.

Other Teams just mad I guess.

If he wants to stay in SJ and make less then fine.

I don’t see how it is different from an aging star that goes and sign a 1 year low dollar contract to try and win a cup.
- ImThatGuy

You're missing the point.

They'll probably have more money next year and are tight this year. They don't want to lose the player (he was being talked about as a possible offer sheet candidate), so it's a behind the scenes wink and a nudge.

It certainly is cap circumvention, if they're doing it.

Not sure how that is circumvention though. Lebanc has to sign the contract still.

Other Teams just mad I guess.

If he wants to stay in SJ and make less then fine.

I don’t see how it is different from an aging star that goes and sign a 1 year low dollar contract to try and win a cup.
- ImThatGuy

The veteran taking that deal isn't being told that his next contract will "make him whole" for taking a low deal. The implication here is that there's a quid pro quo whereby the sharks will over pay him in the future to make up for being underpaid now in order to be cap compliant this year

The veteran in that scenario is under no such illusions

You're missing the point.

They'll probably have more money next year and are tight this year. They don't want to lose the player (he was being talked about as a possible offer sheet candidate), so it's a behind the scenes wink and a nudge.

It certainly is cap circumvention, if they're doing it.
- Powerslave

It's not cap circumvention though

It's a player and a team wanting to do what's best for the team and then in the long run what is best for the player as well.

Cap circumvention is having contracts that are signed (like the Kovalchuk one) that you know the player isn't going to play out.

It's a wink and a nudge but there is nothing in the CBA that is against this

The veteran taking that deal isn't being told that his next contract will "make him whole" for talking a low deal. The implication here is that there's a quid pro quo whereby the sharks will over pay him in the future to make up for being underpaid now in order to be cap compliant this year

The veteran in that scenario is under no such illusions
- jcragcrumple

They each have to sign said contract. See Nylander, Marner. Neither player willing to play for anything less than top dollar.

If Lebanc wants to be there that bad, that he is willing to play for 1 mil this year, great for the Sharks.

This probably goes on behind the scenes often.

Many of the players and agents have been long time friends or former teammates ect.

Good post
- Boss34

It worked for the Sabres and Drury, Right?

It's not cap circumvention though

It's a player and a team wanting to do what's best for the team and then in the long run what is best for the player as well.

Cap circumvention is having contracts that are signed (like the Kovalchuk one) that you know the player isn't going to play out.

It's a wink and a nudge but there is nothing in the CBA that is against this
- Stripes77

I can't speak to the specific verbage in the CBA, but promising to "take care of him" in the future if he does them a solid this year is against the spirit of the rule, if not the actual text.

If that's what happened. If there's no expectation of getting paid, then sure, he just made a choice.

I can't speak to the specific verbage in the CBA, but promising to "take care of him" in the future if he does them a solid this year is against the spirit of the rule, if not the actual text.
- jcragcrumple

What if the player said I know we are up against the cap but I want to keep the team together as much as possible and I want to be here long term?

What if the player said I am betting on myself here, I'll take a 1 year deal and I know I will earn a huge payday?

There is no way they can prove anything here.

I mean hell Stamkos took a huge team friendly deal to stay in Tampa and that is long term

This probably goes on behind the scenes often.

Many of the players and agents have been long time friends or former teammates ect.

Good post
- Boss34

What if the team kind of internally markets him opening him up for some over the top endorsement deal

What if the player said I know we are up against the cap but I want to keep the team together as much as possible and I want to be here long term?

What if the player said I am betting on myself here, I'll take a 1 year deal and I know I will earn a huge payday?

There is no way they can prove anything here.

I mean hell Stamkos took a huge team friendly deal to stay in Tampa and that is long term
- Stripes77

The league really doesn't have to prove anything. When you go to such an embarrassing extreme, it puts you under a microscope. If his extension is 4+ times what they gave him, they could easily take action here. I'd prefer they stepped in right now and voided the deal.

I can't speak to the specific verbage in the CBA, but promising to "take care of him" in the future if he does them a solid this year is against the spirit of the rule, if not the actual text.

If that's what happened. If there's no expectation of getting paid, then sure, he just made a choice.
- jcragcrumple

It would be like a violation of the AAV where they segment what is actually one agreement into two different pieces to be cap compliant early, when they wouldnt be otherwise.

The paper contracts are "1 Million this year and then 7 million for five years." Two separate agreements, one with $1MAAV, so theyre under the cap, and then another one with $7MAAV that theyll worry about later.

The handshake deal is a 6 year agreement for $36M with a $6MAAV.

The league really doesn't have to prove anything. When you go to such an embarrassing extreme, it puts you under a microscope. If his extension is 4+ times what they gave him, they could easily take action here. I'd prefer they stepped in right now and voided the deal.
- Lunaion

But they do

That's how it works

A player signing an extreme team friendly deal isn't cap circumvention

A player signing a contract that pays a ton of cash up front (more than allowed over a period of time if cap circumvention)

A player signing a 15 year contract at 29 is cap circumvention

A player signing a 1 year deal at $1 million with the premise they will be taken care of when the teams cap space is better the next season is not cap circumvention

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- homiedclown

Lazar signing could be interesting .... the eastern conference is more wide open hockey. The west is still bigger tougher hockey

It is possible lazar could be a good 3rd liner being back in the east. He has the skills / tools to be good.

Let’s see how he can do. Also our right wing depth needs some help. No more nylander too.

Right now we have

Reinhart
Missing 2nd line RW
Erod / lazar
Okposo