The "problems" the Leafs are having are due to the level of talent vs. the cap. We should be loving these 'problems'. Aside from Ceci there are no bad contracts on this team right now. Do we need to get Wedgie to recite the 07/08 roster?

If Willie isn't your favourite player ..I get it. But Willie at 6.9 is low risk and is much more likely to look brilliant next summer than it is a bust. Not even close.
- The Law

His contract will be a lot better than Marners.

Not everyone can access the full blog
- zazzle

I know that

Dom Luszczyszyn (aside from his unpronounceable name) has interesting articles but I think his views on players "efficiency" is flawed.

He's also pretty bias towards the Leafs... probably because he follows the same train of thought as guys like Dubas who eat corsi for breakfast.
- Scabeh

I agree he has a Leafs bias at times and it shows.

I have never seen him eat breakfast so thats all speculation

(frank) that article.
- RafiDRW

meh, wings are rebuilding.
The Leafs would have been at the bottom for a good 5 years with all the Nonis dead weight

Willy just needs to work on his Buffalo Bill routine a bit more
- TheMussel

https://youtu.be/vNcoHQrveEQ

I don’t believe the bias...he said it in his article how the leafs are victim to the media...and people think it’s a good thing to have the media turn all their attention towards the Leafs

And as for his system I don’t think anyone’s is perfect...just like no opinion is always right. But he uses facts and compiles many different statistics to do it. If I don’t know anything about a player I’m going to his articles to find out.

Edit: also if you read his season previews he clearly states when he thinks his system is wrong about a player.
- Santo_44

Oh he's not the worst one out there.

I'm just not a fan.

I know that
- senstroll

What do the analysts say about Barrie? Wonder if the Leafs should look at trying to lock him up long term. Maybe a little less this summer than next if he's projectably good.

Oh he's not the worst one out there.

I'm just not a fan.
- Scabeh

That’s fair.

Regardless though I do love the Athletic. I’ve never turned back after trying it.

I agree he has a Leafs bias at times and it shows.

I have never seen him eat breakfast so thats all speculation
- senstroll

Coco is short for corsi obviously.

That’s fair.

Regardless though I do love the Athletic. I’ve never turned back after trying it.
- Santo_44

Same. It's worth it for the content overall.

What do the analysts say about Barrie? Wonder if the Leafs should look at trying to lock him up long term. Maybe a little less this summer than next if he's projectably good.
- The Law

He’s the one D I wouldn’t lock up.

But still, might be worth it to wait and see how everyone plays. There are many variables.

meh, wings are rebuilding.
The Leafs would have been at the bottom for a good 5 years with all the Nonis dead weight
- senstroll

True. The Captain will lead us back to worthiness.

such a negative way to approach watching your favorite team.

the amount of time some fans spend getting angry at what players make is something.

If you attach specific numbers to your level of happiness about what a player makes..well I dont know what to say
- senstroll

I want to see the leafs win a cup. I like some players but only as much to how they help accomplish that goal. If overpaying these three means the team is weakened and hurts the leafs chances at a cup, then it absolutely affects my level of happiness.

When I see guys like Kadri and Gardiner having to go to "make room" the team is weakened. It's fine as long as the kids produce to a point where the leafs are better off but this production is a whole level higher than we have seen to date. I feel like Toronto is the new Chicago but the only difference is that Chicago was gutted by cap issues after they won a cup, not before.

how I fandom
69 points
70 points
- senstroll

39g

40g

related to todays discussion

https://theathletic.com/1...eams-contract-efficiency/

Teams contract efficiency

Spoiler, Leafs are one of the top teams
- senstroll

interesting.

- his model does not like coture, vlasic or doughty

- sens not the worst ...maybe they screw up and don't finish bottom 3

- hawks,wings and kings are a mess. good luck with holland, edmonton.

- bruins and bolts cover up bad mistakes with amazaing contracts.

- trade for kase, dumba or staal

- lol @ nucks

I want to see the leafs win a cup. I like some players but only as much to how they help accomplish that goal. If overpaying these three means the team is weakened and hurts the leafs chances at a cup, then it absolutely affects my level of happiness.
- B-Wforever

Well Matthews and Nylander aren't overpaid so we are fine there...I get the Nylander confusion he had a (frank)ed up year...but Matthews? Come on man he is far from being overpaid.

The jury is out on Marner. He will be overpaid at anything over 10.

interesting.

- his model does not like coture, vlasic or doughty

- sens not the worst ...maybe they screw up and don't finish bottom 3

- hawks,wings and kings are a mess. good luck with holland, edmonton.

- bruins and bolts cover up bad mistakes with amazaing contracts.

- trade for kase, dumba or staal

- lol @ nucks
- Tumbleweed

Yep that is a bad contract.

interesting.

- his model does not like coture, vlasic or doughty

- sens not the worst ...maybe they screw up and don't finish bottom 3

- hawks,wings and kings are a mess. good luck with holland, edmonton.

- bruins and bolts cover up bad mistakes with amazaing contracts.

- trade for kase, dumba or staal

- lol @ nucks
- Tumbleweed

the doughty one willl perplex a lot of fans.
but thats a lot of Dough - ty

I want to see the leafs win a cup. I like some players but only as much to how they help accomplish that goal. If overpaying these three means the team is weakened and hurts the leafs chances at a cup, then it absolutely affects my level of happiness.

When I see guys like Kadri and Gardiner having to go to "make room" the team is weakened. It's fine as long as the kids produce to a point where the leafs are better off but this production is a whole level higher than we have seen to date. I feel like Toronto is the new Chicago but the only difference is that Chicago was gutted by cap issues after they won a cup, not before.
- B-Wforever

we are about the see if a team can win a cup with 4 forwards making a big chunk of cap space (today)..that will change as the years go on

Luckily we have at least a 5 year window..so enjoy it

Dom Luszczyszyn (aside from his unpronounceable name) has interesting articles but I think his views on players "efficiency" is flawed.

He's also pretty bias towards the Leafs... probably because he follows the same train of thought as guys like Dubas who eat corsi for breakfast.
- Scabeh

The Leafs corsi ain't great.

The Leafs corsi ain't great.
- bobbyisno1

start another rebuild

https://youtu.be/vNcoHQrveEQ
- gergeswillems

Are you high?

Are you high?
- bobbyisno1

Are you?

the doughty one willl perplex a lot of fans.
but thats a lot of Dough - ty
- senstroll

yep.

he's coming off a bad season. maybe it is better than it looks, but that one has red flags all over it.

Well Matthews and Nylander aren't overpaid so we are fine there...I get the Nylander confusion he had a (frank)ed up year...but Matthews? Come on man he is far from being overpaid.

The jury is out on Marner. He will be overpaid at anything over 10.
- Santo_44

League comparatively, which is really all that matters as what your competition is paying directly relates to how you'll compete, they are definitely overpaid.

Nylander should be a 5-5.5 (I would argue he should be paid roughly the same as Johnssen and Kappinen), Mathews you can maybe argue 10 only because he was a 1st overall pick with huge upside potential. Although I would argue paying more than Kucherov (9.5) is detrimental. Marner should fall in between at no more than 8. So they are 2 mil high on Nylander, 1.5 high on Mathews and it sounds like will be 2 mil high on Marner when the dust settles.

That's 5.5 mil that buys (or keeps) you a really good player that can help win a cup.