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JDub76
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.17.2019

Jul 17 @ 3:29 PM ET
Can I have your crystal ball?

I prefer to use statistics to figure these things out but you seem to have a way to look into the future.

- Santo_44


It's called experience. It's called a lifetime of watching hockey. He has all the skill in the world, but not the drive to push through the hard aspects of the game. The pressure to do well will get to him early, and then the crowds will get on him and make it worse. This doesn't go well. He's a Gardiner in pressure situations.

I've set myself a reminder to send you an "I told you so" note at Christmas, and then again on April 5th.
Snowman X
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.05.2018

Jul 17 @ 3:32 PM ET
They have 20 mill next year or about depending on what marner gets and how the cap goes up.
They're fine.

- bobbyisno1


It's like you didn't even read the post.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jul 17 @ 3:32 PM ET
It's called experience. It's called a lifetime of watching hockey. He has all the skill in the world, but not the drive to push through the hard aspects of the game. The pressure to do well will get to him early, and then the crowds will get on him and make it worse. This doesn't go well. He's a Gardiner in pressure situations.

I've set myself a reminder to send you an "I told you so" note at Christmas, and then again on April 5th.

- JDub76


doing something a long time doesnt mean you are good at it.

Steve Simmons has been employed for decades

but, really..lots of us here have plenty of "experience" like you do.

please set that reminder for me also
JDub76
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.17.2019

Jul 17 @ 3:40 PM ET
What? a 22 year old with 2 60 point seasons under his belt.. The Leafs would have to sweeten the pot?
- bobbyisno1


Take your leaf goggles off and look at the game/business of hockey. The leafs have no doubt already tried to move him and couldn't. It is a risk not trading him now. If he plays like he did last year then you would get nothing for him. If he plays well then yes you get value. It's a gamble, and those clowns asking about my crystal ball, and I prefers stats, well saying he will do well also requires a crystal ball. His stats lats year were garbage and definitely not worth his cap hit. So yes, I prefer to look at his stats too. Until he delivers in the now, he's a gamble. A Sens fan should really know that lesson..Alexander Daigle..
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Jul 17 @ 3:41 PM ET
Take your leaf goggles off and look at the game/business of hockey. The leafs have no doubt already tried to move him and couldn't. It is a risk not trading him now. If he plays like he did last year then you would get nothing for him. If he plays well then yes you get value. It's a gamble, and those clowns asking about my crystal ball, and I prefers stats, well saying he will do well also requires a crystal ball. His stats lats year were garbage and definitely not worth his cap hit. So yes, I prefer to look at his stats too. Until he delivers in the now, he's a gamble. A Sens fan should really know that lesson..Alexander Daigle..
- JDub76

Welcome back
JDub76
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.17.2019

Jul 17 @ 3:41 PM ET
doing something a long time doesnt mean you are good at it.

Steve Simmons has been employed for decades

but, really..lots of us here have plenty of "experience" like you do.

please set that reminder for me also

- senstroll


Good point Simmons is awful to listen to. Added! =)
Steven_Seagull
Joined: 03.03.2016

Jul 17 @ 3:43 PM ET
What? a 22 year old with 2 60 point seasons under his belt.. The Leafs would have to sweeten the pot?
- bobbyisno1



He’s overpaid by like 6M...or something.
Steven_Seagull
Joined: 03.03.2016

Jul 17 @ 3:44 PM ET
Take your leaf goggles off and look at the game/business of hockey. The leafs have no doubt already tried to move him and couldn't. It is a risk not trading him now. If he plays like he did last year then you would get nothing for him. If he plays well then yes you get value. It's a gamble, and those clowns asking about my crystal ball, and I prefers stats, well saying he will do well also requires a crystal ball. His stats lats year were garbage and definitely not worth his cap hit. So yes, I prefer to look at his stats too. Until he delivers in the now, he's a gamble. A Sens fan should really know that lesson..Alexander Daigle..
- JDub76



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Lucas Neilson
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Atlantic Division Blogger, ON
Joined: 06.26.2015

Jul 17 @ 3:45 PM ET
THE GULLLLLL
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Jul 17 @ 3:46 PM ET
easily a candidate for the 'hottest post of the year' award 😜

- 21peter

I'm sure you enjoyed the other images that came with the google search
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jul 17 @ 3:46 PM ET
It's called experience. It's called a lifetime of watching hockey. He has all the skill in the world, but not the drive to push through the hard aspects of the game. The pressure to do well will get to him early, and then the crowds will get on him and make it worse. This doesn't go well. He's a Gardiner in pressure situations.

I've set myself a reminder to send you an "I told you so" note at Christmas, and then again on April 5th.

- JDub76




The “I Know hockey” card. Generally people who use that card don’t do any research. Facts man....use facts because no one is believing you are some hockey guru. Every hockey fan has watched as much hockey as you. You are no different than anyone else on this site.

But sure set the reminder.
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Jul 17 @ 3:47 PM ET
I'm sure you enjoyed the other images that came with the google search
- RickJames77

ouch
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jul 17 @ 3:47 PM ET
doing something a long time doesnt mean you are good at it.

Steve Simmons has been employed for decades

but, really..lots of us here have plenty of "experience" like you do.

please set that reminder for me also

- senstroll


“I know hockey and you don’t” “I’ve watched a lot of hockey”



(frank) this is what’s wrong with people today.
Steven_Seagull
Joined: 03.03.2016

Jul 17 @ 3:49 PM ET
THE GULLLLLL
- Lucas.Neilson





sup



New Lucas blogs.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jul 17 @ 3:49 PM ET
Take your leaf goggles off and look at the game/business of hockey. The leafs have no doubt already tried to move him and couldn't. It is a risk not trading him now. If he plays like he did last year then you would get nothing for him. If he plays well then yes you get value. It's a gamble, and those clowns asking about my crystal ball, and I prefers stats, well saying he will do well also requires a crystal ball. His stats lats year were garbage and definitely not worth his cap hit. So yes, I prefer to look at his stats too. Until he delivers in the now, he's a gamble. A Sens fan should really know that lesson..Alexander Daigle..
- JDub76


There is no crystal ball needed man.

Do you think all these GMs have crystal balls when acquiring players via trade/FA? Drafting?

They don’t. They use factual evidence to project their careers.

You however choose to spew bull poop and tell everyone they are wrong because you “know hockey”
Steven_Seagull
Joined: 03.03.2016

Jul 17 @ 3:51 PM ET
“I know hockey and you don’t” “I’ve watched a lot of hockey”



(frank) this is what’s wrong with people today.

- Santo_44



I’ve watched a lot of girl-on-girl videos, but I don’t claim to know more than a gynaecologist.
Lucas Neilson
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Atlantic Division Blogger, ON
Joined: 06.26.2015

Jul 17 @ 3:51 PM ET


sup



New Lucas blogs.

- Steven_Seagull

back in action

didn't wanna miss out on THE YEAR
Steven_Seagull
Joined: 03.03.2016

Jul 17 @ 3:52 PM ET
back in action

didn't wanna miss out on THE YEAR

- Lucas.Neilson



1967
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Jul 17 @ 3:52 PM ET
Let's play the game. Marner $10m. Leaves $18m.

2 forwards are $1.5m. Leaves 16.5m.

Dermott $3m. Leaves $13.5m
Liljegren & Sandin $1.75m. Leaves $11.75m.
Resign Harpur? $1m. Leaves $10.75m.

. . . there's wiggle room, but the real questions are what term would Barrie or Muzzin want. Because I don't think the Leafs would give Barrie 8 years or Muzzin more than 3.

- Monkeypunk


Even then though, it isn't a SC contending defence. Reilly, Dermott, 2 Rookies, and Muzzin/Barrie doesn't get you to the finals.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jul 17 @ 3:52 PM ET
I’ve watched a lot of girl-on-girl videos, but I don’t claim to know more than a gynaecologist.
- Steven_Seagull

Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jul 17 @ 3:53 PM ET
Even then though, it isn't a SC contending defence. Reilly, Dermott, 2 Rookies, and Muzzin/Barrie doesn't get you to the finals.
- aminnes

Yawn
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Jul 17 @ 3:54 PM ET
I’ve watched a lot of girl-on-girl videos, but I don’t claim to know more than a gynaecologist.
- Steven_Seagull


You mean gull on gull, no?
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Jul 17 @ 3:54 PM ET
Yawn
- Santo_44


Agreed.
zazzle
Joined: 01.19.2013

Jul 17 @ 3:55 PM ET
“I know hockey and you don’t” “I’ve watched a lot of hockey”



(frank) this is what’s wrong with people today.

- Santo_44



The UG cool aide
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Jul 17 @ 3:56 PM ET
Martin St. Louis and Adam Oates usually top the list (as an aside, I had a buddy growing up whose sister dated Oates - my buddy used to wear Oates' RPI jacket).

Of the top of my head, you also have Cujo and Belfour, Rafalski,Mike Ridley (not a great career, but he came out of Canadian university hockey - which at the time was crap) John Madden, Joe Mullen.

I'm sure there are others I'm not remembering.

- Atomic Wedgie
I forgot about St. Louis! I didn't even know about Oates, Rafalski, Cujo, or Madden and don't know the other guys, but that's probably an age thing.

Improved scouting has to be at the root of why we see less and less of these guys slip through the cracks. Bozak and Krug are the only good ones to have come out lately, while all of the other ones are hyped up and don't do much. Most of the ones I feel like I can name were drafted, they just played 4 years and UFAed it on August 14th.
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