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Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jul 17 @ 1:05 PM ET
Ovechkin signed his contract 11 years ago, when 9.5 million was 21.59% of the cap. No ones contract in the league at the moment even comes close.
- RickJames77

Paul marner says hold my beer
BestRapperAlive
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: OEL is one of the greatest players of his generation - James Tanner
Joined: 06.21.2012

Jul 17 @ 1:05 PM ET
Mcdavid and Matthews both took less than they deserved...It is pretty sweet.

I can't wait for one of these Top level RFAs to say (frank) it I want my money I don't care about the team.

- Santo_44


Marner?
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jul 17 @ 1:05 PM ET
While playing a Cap expert on HB i noticed CF does the work for you and puts the cap % in the contract details

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/alex-ovechkin

SIGNING DATE: January 10, 2008 - 16.82%

but ya, Matthews is 14.63%

- senstroll

I'm going to be sad when the CapFriendly guy gets picked up by an NHL team and we have to wait for the next CapGeek/CapFriendly to show up
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Jul 17 @ 1:06 PM ET
Is it wrong that I don’t hate those combos?
- Atomic Wedgie

What happened to the PP last year? I remember in October and early November it was absolutely on fire. I definitely watched more Leafs games in the first half of the season so didn't really see what happened.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jul 17 @ 1:06 PM ET
Marner?
- BestRapperAlive

Very well could be Marner.

If that is the case he will be gone in a few years.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jul 17 @ 1:07 PM ET
nope. I don't really like them either.. but if Babcock has the last word.. that's how i see it...
- Delryk

You misread my post.

I don’t hate them.

Meaning I kinda like them.
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Jul 17 @ 1:07 PM ET
While playing a Cap expert on HB i noticed CF does the work for you and puts the cap % in the contract details

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/alex-ovechkin

SIGNING DATE: January 10, 2008 - 16.82%

but ya, Matthews is 14.63%

- senstroll

I didn't actually do the math. I referenced spotrac. Can't trust everything on the interwebs, eh?
bryant
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jul 17 @ 1:07 PM ET
What happened to the PP last year? I remember in October and early November it was absolutely on fire. I definitely watched more Leafs games in the first half of the season so didn't really see what happened.
- RickJames77

Became to predictable and they didn’t make any changes....like at all

Marner to Rielly
Rielly to marner
Marner back to Rielly
Marner fake shot and back to Rielly
Rielly fake shot then pass to Matthews
No shooting lane so pass back to Rielly
Rielly to marner
Marner fake slap shot and goes for the tip.

Pretty much the gist of it
budsfan5
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mt. Pearl, NF
Joined: 07.17.2019

Jul 17 @ 1:08 PM ET
you failed to mention that you can't win a cup with Kessel, so therefor you cant win one with Nylander
- senstroll



Kessel has won 2 cups....
And if you're referring to Kessel when he was a Leaf...
NONE would have helped bring a cup.
For the first time in many years, I have hope of maybe seeing the cup before my time is up!
Is Willy the answer? Not by himself
But the pieces are starting to line up nicely

But, like I said, Willy will certainly earn his pay cheque
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jul 17 @ 1:08 PM ET
What happened to the PP last year? I remember in October and early November it was absolutely on fire. I definitely watched more Leafs games in the first half of the season so didn't really see what happened.
- RickJames77

Kadri forgot how to shoot. Marner and Rielly never shot and Matthews was swarmed every 3 seconds because he has no one timer.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jul 17 @ 1:08 PM ET
What happened to the PP last year? I remember in October and early November it was absolutely on fire. I definitely watched more Leafs games in the first half of the season so didn't really see what happened.
- RickJames77

That’s the $64,000 question.

Maybe too predictable?
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jul 17 @ 1:08 PM ET
I'm going to be sad when the CapFriendly guy gets picked up by an NHL team and we have to wait for the next CapGeek/CapFriendly to show up
- AdamFrench


Dont worry, Gary Buttman said the fans are not interested in that stuff, so they wont do that. cuz Garbutt always tells the truth
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Jul 17 @ 1:08 PM ET
While playing a Cap expert on HB i noticed CF does the work for you and puts the cap % in the contract details

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/alex-ovechkin

SIGNING DATE: January 10, 2008 - 16.82%

but ya, Matthews is 14.63%

- senstroll


I don't like the way Cap Friendly calculates cap percentage. It bases it on the current year's salary cap even though that salary will not be paid out until the new cap is established. The negotiations, I would expect, are very much based off of cap projections and cap percentages.

If you sign after June xx when the new cap number is released, then the cap number is based on the adjusted cap value. So it's not always comparing apples to apples.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jul 17 @ 1:08 PM ET
What happened to the PP last year? I remember in October and early November it was absolutely on fire. I definitely watched more Leafs games in the first half of the season so didn't really see what happened.
- RickJames77

It got pretty stale...It ran through Marner but his shot is below average so other teams covered his limited passing options well

The Leafs will benefit pretty greatly from Barrie's one timer. It adds another weapon.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jul 17 @ 1:09 PM ET
I didn't actually do the math. I referenced spotrac. Can't trust everything on the interwebs, eh?
- RickJames77


whats spotrac?
Is that like AOL?
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Jul 17 @ 1:09 PM ET
Left out ...."and signed for 2 LESS years".

Very important.

- The Law

Someone pointed that out already and I gladly agreed with them...but then again is really signed for 2 years less? My math says 1.
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Jul 17 @ 1:10 PM ET
That’s the $64,000 question.

Maybe too predictable?

- Atomic Wedgie


Very little player movement.

Marner doesn't shoot. Rielly doesn't shoot. Kadri was ignored.

Block the lanes to Matthews and Tavares.

Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jul 17 @ 1:10 PM ET
Kadri forgot how to shoot. Marner and Rielly never shot and Matthews was swarmed every 3 seconds because he has no one timer.
- AdamFrench

I love Rielly but there was zero shooting threat from the entire right side.
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jul 17 @ 1:10 PM ET
While playing a Cap expert on HB i noticed CF does the work for you and puts the cap % in the contract details

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/alex-ovechkin

SIGNING DATE: January 10, 2008 - 16.82%

but ya, Matthews is 14.63%

- senstroll


And I think the CBA limits % to 20%, no?

Ove is the highest cap % contract (post 2005) but factor in that it covers 13 years.

My only beef with CF is that they use "% of cap on date of signing" rather than "% of cap at time deal kicks in". So when guys sign early (IMHO) they use the wrong cap number.
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Jul 17 @ 1:10 PM ET
whats spotrac?
Is that like AOL?

- senstroll

Idk I googled Ovi's contract and it came up as the first result on the google machine
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jul 17 @ 1:11 PM ET
What happened to the PP last year? I remember in October and early November it was absolutely on fire. I definitely watched more Leafs games in the first half of the season so didn't really see what happened.
- RickJames77

Cause they did the same move over and over and over and over and over.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jul 17 @ 1:12 PM ET
Kadri forgot how to shoot. Marner and Rielly never shot and Matthews was swarmed every 3 seconds because he has no one timer.
- AdamFrench

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcvbuhDs7hY

I think JT and Matthews are going to be very happy with this
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jul 17 @ 1:12 PM ET
whats spotrac?
Is that like AOL?

- senstroll

I got the Spotrac 3.5” disk in my mail - wondering if I should install it on my 486.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jul 17 @ 1:13 PM ET
I don't like the way Cap Friendly calculates cap percentage. It bases it on the current year's salary cap even though that salary will not be paid out until the new cap is established. The negotiations, I would expect, are very much based off of cap projections and cap percentages.

If you sign after June xx when the new cap number is released, then the cap number is based on the adjusted cap value. So it's not always comparing apples to apples.

- Monkeypunk


hmm yeah..so his is strange.
are you sure on that?

CF says SIGNING DATE: January 10, 2008 .. so the cap % on sportrac is probably more accurate as to when the contract was signed

wouldnt CF be higher if they used the current year and not when it started and the new established cap?
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Jul 17 @ 1:13 PM ET
I got the Spotrac 3.5” disk in my mail - wondering if I should install it on my 486.
- Atomic Wedgie

I like it when a girl whispers the dial up tone in my ear.
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