His nickname is Willie...

...so your mom disagrees.
- Atomic Wedgie

His nickname is Willie...

...so your mom disagrees.
- Atomic Wedgie

My mom only goes after men named in the Richard category. Willie was so middle school for her.

Wrong again, you can totally eat a Willy
- TheMussel

Just ask my mom.

Wrong again, you can totally eat a Willy
- TheMussel

I guess you are doing it wrong.

My mom only goes after men named in the Richard category. Willie was so middle school for her.
- RafiDRW

League comparatively, which is really all that matters as what your competition is paying directly relates to how you'll compete, they are definitely overpaid.

Nylander should be a 5-5.5 (I would argue he should be paid roughly the same as Johnssen and Kappinen), Mathews you can maybe argue 10 only because he was a 1st overall pick with huge upside potential. Although I would argue paying more than Kucherov (9.5) is detrimental. Marner should fall in between at no more than 8. So they are 2 mil high on Nylander, 1.5 high on Mathews and it sounds like will be 2 mil high on Marner when the dust settles.

That's 5.5 mil that buys (or keeps) you a really good player that can help win a cup.
- B-Wforever

kapanen's career points < nylander's career high season

The way contracts are going…look at list of players who signed $5+ million Dollar contracts this summer—and ask yourself, where would William Nylander fall on this list (Nylander $6.9 Mill Per):

Age: 28 Artemi Panarin $11.6 Mill Per
Age: 22 Sebastian Aho $8.5 Mill Per
Age: 28 Matt Duchene $8 Mill Per
Age: 26 Kevin Hayes $7 Mill Per
Age: 35 Joe Pavelski $7 Mill Per
Age: 23 Timo Meier $6 Mill Per
Age: 32 Mats Zuccarello $6 Mill Per
Age: 29 Gustav Nyquist $5.5 Mill Per
Age: 31 Wayne Simmonds $5 Mill Per


When taking into account, Age, Salary, Productivity over the last 3 years, as well as projected production in 2019-20, the only guys I’d put ahead of him are: Panarin, Aho, and Maybe Matt Duchene.
Panariin also Makes $11.6 Mil....so that becomes a big concern in my opinion.

If Nylander puts up anywhere from 65-75 points, his $6.9 Million Dollar Cap-Hit per season, ends up looking like a steal versus a lot of other contracts that have been recently signed.
- Sandro

They’re all UFA’s and the 1 that’s not is better

They’re all UFA’s and the 1 that’s not is better


- Garnie

Timo Meier was also an RFA, less paid, signed a year later and someone I'd take over Nylander regardless of contract.

Huh?

You don’t judge value by winning a pointless season award. You judge it by overall production where he has excelled.

- Santo_44

If you're judging by overall production I will point to the two first round playoff exits and want to pay him even less. After all it is about winning a stanley cup, not individual accolades as you correctly point out

I read something interesting on the Athletic the other day. I don't agree with it, but at least it gives me (false) hope.

The premise was this:

The Leafs' right side was sooooooo franking weak last year, every team in the league would dump the puck into the left side and jam the defenceman, forcing him to make a play to the righty. The righty would constantly frank it up.

So now that they have two righties, that mere fact makes them stronger - the lefties will now have more time and more options to handle the puck.

So we are now stronger on both sides, just by adding Ceci and Barrie.

I'll thank you all for not poking holes in this piece of swiss cheese theory.

I SAID DON'T FRANKING POKE HOLES IN THIS THEORY!!!!!
- Atomic Wedgie

Big.
Splash.

If you're judging by overall production I will point to the two first round playoff exits and want to pay him even less. After all it is about winning a stanley cup, not individual accolades as you correctly point out
- B-Wforever

Most productive Leaf in the playoffs and you're dissing him.

Then we release the MAX!.

or is it the ATHERIAL!

i forget who is always trying to trade him.

But someone will raise hell

Lol
- Fakepartofme

Not me.

Big.
Splash.
- Aetherial

Type 3?

If you're judging by overall production I will point to the two first round playoff exits and want to pay him even less. After all it is about winning a stanley cup, not individual accolades as you correctly point out
- B-Wforever

No it’s not.

The goal is to win the Stanley cup and to win a cup you need the most productive players possible to do so.

In order to get the most productive players you have to pay them for their production.

Players don’t get paid based on Stanley cup winnings. Don’t be silly.

Type 3?
- Atomic Wedgie

I think 2.
More possibility for holes in it.

kapanen's career points < nylander's career high season
- Tumbleweed

Why are people complaining about Nylander's contract? It's not like the leaf has had to actually trade anyone because of it...

If Nylander's contract was a problem then I could understand people trying desperately to connect it with the cap situation. It hasn't been a problem and won't be a problem in future either.

Most productive Leaf in the playoffs and you're dissing him.
- bobbyisno1

Matthews is getting paid what he should get paid and he is one of the top 5 players in the league, if not top 3.

I'm pretty sure Nylander will earn his pay cheque.
Kessels first 4 years - 50.82 points per 82 games
Nylanders first 4 years - 55.58 points per 82 games

Similar type players...both play(ed) with superstars...
Both do not like the dirty areas...

Seems to be a pretty good comparison

Timo Meier was also an RFA, less paid, signed a year later and someone I'd take over Nylander regardless of contract.
- RickJames77

Very arguable he's paid less.

6 years at $6.9 million cap hit is probably less than 4 years at $6 million cap hit.

Matthews is getting paid what he should get paid and he is one of the top 5 players in the league, if not top 3.
- kaptaan

I agree, deserves every penny, guys like that guy will run him out of town.

Very arguable he's paid less.

6 years at $6.9 million cap hit is probably less than 4 years at $6 million cap hit.
- Atomic Wedgie

Fair point - plus that last year he makes 10 million, which would ratchet up his qualifying offer

I'd still take him over Nylander regardless of their contract situation though.

If you're judging by overall production I will point to the two first round playoff exits and want to pay him even less. After all it is about winning a stanley cup, not individual accolades as you correctly point out
- B-Wforever

It's a team game. Sometimes it takes years and some luck to get there. Should the Leafs have kept Bozak cause he won with St.Louis and tossed aside Matthew's and Tavares? Let's not be silly. Should the Caps have given up on Ovie cause he didn't win them a cup in his first few seasons?

I agree, deserves every penny, guys like that guy will run him out of town.
- bobbyisno1

Agree. People get neurotic and harass guys like Matthews for no reason.

He was the only guy who's every shift seemed to be dangerous against the broons in the playoffs. The guy was a machine.

Fair point - plus that last year he makes 10 million, which would ratchet up his qualifying offer

I'd still take him over Nylander regardless of their contract situation though.
- RickJames77

I didn't even see that - what a franking weird way to structure a contract.

Kinda makes sense in that it gives him a lot of power in his final year - but wow, it really looks like the Sharks are going for it now, and plan to trade him to the Leafs for the final year of his contract!

Pasta drafted same year as Nylander and has outperformed him to date both in regular season and playoffs. He also has a physical element which Nylander hasn't yet showed. This is not to say that Nylander can't improve significantly, but at this point the Pastrnak looks to be a better deal - based on performance and results.
- winsix

my only *, is that he gets to play pretty much fulltime with the best C in the League (imo) and the rat guy that it basically a top 5 winger