Kevin R
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Location: E5 = It aint gonna happen. Joined: 02.10.2010
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In my opinion it should be Stone and Frolik out the door for cap space purposes.
Brodie can play with Valimaki or Kylington on the 3rd pairing, and be bumped up to Gio’s Line if Rass is in a slump. Brodie still is a pretty darn good defencemen, it’s just when he (frank)s up on a pinch, the puck usually ends up in the back of our net. That’s why he gets ridden so hard.
Don’t really want to see Frolik go except he and his agent think he should be playing top 6 and no less, so it makes sense to trade him. He’s still a good 2 way defender, but he’s getting to old and slow to play top 6 in this day and age.
Trade Stone and Gillies together, and Frolik with a 3rd or something.
Gillies is on a one way this year, so if somebody gets injured and we call him up until they get healthy, to send him down he’d have to go through waivers, and somebody would pick him up for nothing.
That’s my 2 cents so far.. - Flamin_Irishmin
Honestly, both Brodie & Frolik would be top list TDL on the TSN Tradebait lists.
Just like Moneyball, a team like Ottawa could acquire them for relatively cheap & flip them for profits at the TDL. So if Tre really really needed any cap space, just sell them off cheap. Stone, I just dont think there is a market for him, I would think if Tre can move Brodie & Frolik there may not be a need to buyout Stone & we can keep him as our #7 guy. |
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Helios
Calgary Flames |
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Location: AB Joined: 08.11.2016
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Kadri also nixed a deal after the Flames proposal. He really wanted to stay in Toronto, and thought that was his best chance at staying. Dubas had other plans tho, so he traded him to a team that was off his 10 team no trade list. Bit Kadri in the ass in the end.
He says so himself. You should use this thing called the internet while your on break while working at Wallyworld, it won’t help your low IQ, but at least you would be actually informed about the topics in which you speak. Have a smiley price dropping day! - Flamin_Irishmin
Just ignore him man. He brings up the Kadri thing every Flames thread despite Kadri himself saying what happened. He's just a terrible troll who doesn't do any research and looks like an idiot. I mean you know he's bad when fans of other teams poop all over him. |
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Flamin_Irishmin
Calgary Flames |
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Location: Victoria B.C., BC Joined: 09.15.2015
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One way contracts have nothing to do with waivers. He has to pass through waivers after they send him down after training camp because he signed his first contract 5 five years ago.
If he's called up as an injury replacement, he doesn't pass through waivers when he's sent back down.
Doesn't matter at all though because no one's going to claim him. - Hunkulese
I disagree that nobody would claim him. His size, age, and USHL background would make somebody bite at him. Goalies are notoriously hit and miss as you know. They take unknown amounts of time to have success or be a bust. Send him somewhere else and he could flourish. Package him with Stone or Frolik I say.
As for the 5 year contract with waiver eligibility after training camp, I didn’t know that, but I willl do my own research after work for my own knowledge, so thank you. |
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Hunkulese
Calgary Flames |
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Location: QC Joined: 09.30.2006
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I disagree that nobody would claim him. His size, age, and USHL background would make somebody bite at him. Goalies are notoriously hit and miss as you know. They take unknown amounts of time to have success or be a bust. Send him somewhere else and he could flourish. Package him with Stone or Frolik I say.
As for the 5 year contract with waiver eligibility after training camp, I didn’t know that, but I willl do my own research after work for my own knowledge, so thank you. - Flamin_Irishmin
The only time he's going to be able to be claimed is after training camp and any team that claimed him would have to keep him on their NHL roster. He's been awful in the AHL, no one is going to pick him up to be their backup this year. He's also pretty much untradable for the same reason. |
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geta02it
Calgary Flames |
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Location: AB Joined: 11.10.2007
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Truth hurts...deflection is a tool just like tchakuk...kadri just bought a place in Colorado,something he had no intention of doing in calgary... - oil90
There it is... atta boy. You don't disappoint.
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Helios
Calgary Flames |
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Location: AB Joined: 08.11.2016
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There it is... atta boy. You don't disappoint. - geta02it
He's not only an idiot, he's predictable. Worst troll the Flames threads have had in a long time. |
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Honestly, both Brodie & Frolik would be top list TDL on the TSN Tradebait lists.
Just like Moneyball, a team like Ottawa could acquire them for relatively cheap & flip them for profits at the TDL. So if Tre really really needed any cap space, just sell them off cheap. Stone, I just dont think there is a market for him, I would think if Tre can move Brodie & Frolik there may not be a need to buyout Stone & we can keep him as our #7 guy. - Kevin R
Wouldn't it be best to cut ties with Stone, Ottawa still needs to meet the cap minimum, maybe a 3rd or 4th rounder could be in the cards. With the expansion draft next year the Flames will probably lose Kylington, or does anyone know the fine print of his contract if he can't be selected by Seattle?? |
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Helios
Calgary Flames |
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Location: AB Joined: 08.11.2016
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Wouldn't it be best to cut ties with Stone, Ottawa still needs to meet the cap minimum, maybe a 3rd or 4th rounder could be in the cards. With the expansion draft next year the Flames will probably lose Kylington, or does anyone know the fine print of his contract if he can't be selected by Seattle?? - FlamesFan1230
Stone and Frolik certainly make the most sense as cap dumps. Only trade Brodie if he can bring back a piece that helps us now, don't trade him as a cap dump. If Tre doesn't get an offer he likes on Brodie then just keep him. Stone and Frolik I am completely fine with moving for picks or prospects.
The Flames will be fine and this cap situation is way overblown. There is room to be made. |
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Reveen.
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: BC Joined: 09.05.2016
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Kevin R
Calgary Flames |
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Location: E5 = It aint gonna happen. Joined: 02.10.2010
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Wouldn't it be best to cut ties with Stone, Ottawa still needs to meet the cap minimum, maybe a 3rd or 4th rounder could be in the cards. With the expansion draft next year the Flames will probably lose Kylington, or does anyone know the fine print of his contract if he can't be selected by Seattle?? - FlamesFan1230
Agree I would like to cut ties with Stone, I just dont think you can move him without adding an asset. Really dont want to carry any cap hit for him past this year either. If we can trade him fantastic. I just dont see any takers. If we move Brodie & Frolik, we can maybe carry his cap hit & have as our 7th man. I dont really know or if anyone knows how serviceable he is anymore.
Unfortunately Im afraid we are going to lose a decent player to Seattle next expansion draft. We got lucky with Vegas. |
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Squilliam-
Calgary Flames |
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Location: Diagon Alley Joined: 10.25.2016
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Flames should trade Johnny |
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Flamin_Irishmin
Calgary Flames |
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Location: Victoria B.C., BC Joined: 09.15.2015
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Flames should trade Johnny - Squilliam-
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Hunkulese
Calgary Flames |
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Location: QC Joined: 09.30.2006
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Flames should trade Johnny - Squilliam-
Trade Gaudreau and Monahan for picks and prospects, offer sheet Point, and they're probably better off for the next decade. |
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tincup
Calgary Flames |
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Location: AB Joined: 07.21.2006
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Trade Gaudreau and Monahan for picks and prospects, offer sheet Point, and they're probably better off for the next decade. - Hunkulese
And what do you thing it would take to sign Point and not have TB match ? Of course, Tkachuk wants to get paid and that may affect his next contract. |
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Hunkulese
Calgary Flames |
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Location: QC Joined: 09.30.2006
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And what do you thing it would take to sign Point and not have TB match ? Of course, Tkachuk wants to get paid and that may affect his next contract. - tincup
Less than Gaudreau and Monahan are making. Give him 80 million over 8 years.
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Kevin R
Calgary Flames |
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Location: E5 = It aint gonna happen. Joined: 02.10.2010
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Less than Gaudreau and Monahan are making. Give him 80 million over 8 years. - Hunkulese
In the sauce early eh? Yeah lets get rid of our top 2 scorers & have been our top scorers for the last few years. Lets be the first team to win the conference then the following year blow it up & rebuild Oiler style.
You know, Point may be a pretty dang good player, but he also had Kucherov & Stamkos to play with, they aint too shabby. |
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Saskabush
Calgary Flames |
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Location: Bridge City, SK Joined: 10.29.2013
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Yikes, Monahan's rep has sure taken a poop-kicking this offseason
Yeah it looked like his wrist was acting up near the end of the season again but guys, he had 4 (frank)ing surgery's last offseason He knows that is something he needs to work on and now he will finally have a full offseason to do so.
Trading the first #1 centre this franchise has had since the 80's for picks or other teams garbage is asinine. The playoffs were disappointing but that's life. I would rather have a good team suffer a bitter loss in the 1st round than an average team that lucks its way into the next round or two.
Those early disapointments are important for young teams to get out of the way. Now they have a better understanding of what it takes to actually win in the playoffs.
Compliment the core we already have, no need to blow it up for a few more years at least.
e.g
St Louis (Everyone thought they missed their window they lost so much)
Washington (lost to Pit pretty much every year till Ovi had enough)
Pittsburgh (multiple trips to SCF + multiple early exits)
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Helios
Calgary Flames |
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Location: AB Joined: 08.11.2016
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Trade Gaudreau and Monahan for picks and prospects, offer sheet Point, and they're probably better off for the next decade. - Hunkulese
Here we go again with this "trade our best players" garbage. You are literally the guy who keeps saying to keep Brodie because we want to win now, abd now you're saying "hey, let's trade pur two top scorers for futures". Do you even hear yourself.
I know Monahan became the whipping boy this season but Christ man. Blowing it up after winning the Western Conference is the absolute dumbest thing you could do. |
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Hunkulese
Calgary Flames |
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Location: QC Joined: 09.30.2006
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Here we go again with this "trade our best players" garbage. You are literally the guy who keeps saying to keep Brodie because we want to win now, abd now you're saying "hey, let's trade pur two top scorers for futures". Do you even hear yourself.
I know Monahan became the whipping boy this season but Christ man. Blowing it up after winning the Western Conference is the absolute dumbest thing you could do. - Helios
Clearly, this was 100% serious and I think this is something that could ever happen.
The Flames haven't done anything in months and won't do anything in the months to come. The Flames with Point, multiple higher first round picks, and multiple A prospects would be better for the next decade. |
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K-man25
Calgary Flames |
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Location: K Town Joined: 09.02.2014
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Trade Gaudreau and Monahan for picks and prospects, offer sheet Point, and they're probably better off for the next decade. - Hunkulese
What??
Pfffff! |
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Kevin R
Calgary Flames |
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Location: E5 = It aint gonna happen. Joined: 02.10.2010
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Clearly, this was 100% serious and I think this is something that could ever happen.
The Flames haven't done anything in months and won't do anything in the months to come. The Flames with Point, multiple higher first round picks, and multiple A prospects would be better for the next decade. - Hunkulese
The flaw in your thinking is that we will have to relinguish 4 1st round picks when we offer sheet Point!
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Hunkulese
Calgary Flames |
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Location: QC Joined: 09.30.2006
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The flaw in your thinking is that we will have to relinguish 4 1st round picks when we offer sheet Point! - Kevin R
They'll get back better picks and prospects from trading Gaudreau and Monahan. They'd bring back a minimum of 3 first round picks, all probably higher than Calgary's original picks, and at least 2 A prospects. The money works out a lot better, and they'd be pretty much protected from Seattle stealing anyone worthwhile.
Also, Tampa would never not match. |
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K-man25
Calgary Flames |
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Location: K Town Joined: 09.02.2014
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So Compher signs with Colorado for 3.5/ for 4 years. Where’s that put Benny?
I would think right around the same. If you had to choose one who would it be? Same $ as Ferland. |
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Kevin R
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Location: E5 = It aint gonna happen. Joined: 02.10.2010
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So Compher signs with Colorado for 3.5/ for 4 years. Where’s that put Benny?
I would think right around the same. If you had to choose one who would it be? Same $ as Ferland. - K-man25
I would be thrilled if Tre could get benny to sign a 5 year deal at 3.5 mill per.
Thats a steal. Benny is a solid 3rd line player with a playoff game to him. 3rd line players are easily worth that kind of money. He's 23 & I dont see regression in his game, if anything, the guy has some of the worst luck around the net ever. Cmon Tre, get him inked for some of those UFA years at a bargain.
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cnknut
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Joined: 01.26.2012
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They'll get back better picks and prospects from trading Gaudreau and Monahan. They'd bring back a minimum of 3 first round picks, all probably higher than Calgary's original picks, and at least 2 A prospects. The money works out a lot better, and they'd be pretty much protected from Seattle stealing anyone worthwhile.
Also, Tampa would never not match. - Hunkulese
Sry but you are insane and need serious help thx |
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