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Carry on 👹

Anyone care to rank the Metro? I think it’s super hard to gauge mostly because of goaltending and the impact of the young top picks

I’ll take: Caps/Pens at the top and then PHI, NJD, CAR, NYR, NYI, CBJ

I think these teams are all well coached but I think some will struggle to score while at the same time struggle to keep goals out of the net (like us last fall)
- WSCTeton17

I dont know if I'd call philly 3rd. I dont believe they improved much at all. Rangers and Florida are the tough ones the gauge... Carolina got better, and I'd have then as a solid 2nd or 3rd in the Metro. Islanders I see flopping due to not being able to repeat that goaltending.

Feds true or false

Yzerman > Fedorov?

Did you know Yzerman was Crosby’s idol growing up? They do share a few things in common
- Barnaby36

That’s true

I dont know if I'd call philly 3rd. I dont believe they improved much at all. Rangers and Florida are the tough ones the gauge... Carolina got better, and I'd have then as a solid 2nd or 3rd in the Metro. Islanders I see flopping due to not being able to repeat that goaltending.
- Guile

Losing Lehner was not a good choice. They’ll slip a bit in the standings.

I endorse this message (but do not endorse your plus minus argument)

Carry on 👹

Anyone care to rank the Metro? I think it’s super hard to gauge mostly because of goaltending and the impact of the young top picks

I’ll take: Caps/Pens at the top and then PHI, NJD, CAR, NYR, NYI, CBJ

I think these teams are all well coached but I think some will struggle to score while at the same time struggle to keep goals out of the net (like us last fall)
- WSCTeton17

Pens miss the playoffs. You heard it here first folks.

Losing Lehner was not a good choice. They’ll slip a bit in the standings.
- Barnaby36

How so? Trotz system made it so goalies faced the lowest scoring chances in the league. Greiss and Varlamov will be fine.

How so? Trotz system made it so goalies faced the lowest scoring chances in the league. Greiss and Varlamov will be fine.
- Feds91Stammer

I just think Lehner is ahead of Varlamov right now. The Russian was a backup in Colorado.

I endorse this message (but do not endorse your plus minus argument)

Carry on 👹

Anyone care to rank the Metro? I think it’s super hard to gauge mostly because of goaltending and the impact of the young top picks

I’ll take: Caps/Pens at the top and then PHI, NJD, CAR, NYR, NYI, CBJ

I think these teams are all well coached but I think some will struggle to score while at the same time struggle to keep goals out of the net (like us last fall)
- WSCTeton17

Caps
Pens
Canes
Devils
Flyers
NYR
CBJ
NYI

The top three could easily change spots IMO. Devils and Flyers are very close too, but For some reason I'm not set on Niskanen and Braun pulling down heavy minutes.
Rangers have Artemi, that is the difference for the last three.
The Islanders lost their best player from last season and didn't add anything important. I thought the wildly overachieved so this season they should suck.

Pens miss the playoffs. You heard it here first folks.
- Feds91Stammer

Are you just (frank)ing around or serious? You’re always around so I expected a little more love from you

Are you just (frank)ing around or serious? You’re always around so I expected a little more love from you
- Barnaby36

Dead ass serious. I’m assuming at least 10 games missed for both Letang and Malkin and terrible usage and deployment from Sully. The margin for error has gotten too small for the expected mistakes/injuries.

I just think Lehner is ahead of Varlamov right now. The Russian was a backup in Colorado.
- Barnaby36

What about Greiss?

Pens miss the playoffs. You heard it here first folks.
- Feds91Stammer

You aren't even remotely close to saying this first. There have been writers predicting this after losing Kessel and adding Tanev

You aren't even remotely close to saying this first. There have been writers predicting this after losing Kessel and adding Tanev
- Guile

Yeah but writers are losers so they don’t count.

What about Greiss?
- Feds91Stammer

He’s a good back up. Did well in Pittsburgh too. I think the Islanders will have two capable backups. 55/45 % sharing the net

He’s a good back up. Did well in Pittsburgh too. I think the Islanders will have two capable backups. 55/45 % sharing the net
- Barnaby36

He just posted a .927 though. I think everyone is overrating Lehner a bit.

Caps
Pens
Canes
Devils
Flyers
NYR
CBJ
NYI

The top three could easily change spots IMO. Devils and Flyers are very close too, but For some reason I'm not set on Niskanen and Braun pulling down heavy minutes.
Rangers have Artemi, that is the difference for the last three.
The Islanders lost their best player from last season and didn't add anything important. I thought the wildly overachieved so this season they should suck.
- burgh4life87

Caps
Pens
Canes
Phi
NYR
CBJ
NJ
NYI

Don't think I need to explain the top 3. I've been among the more positive on the Pens.

I don't think Philly's moves help that much, but I do think a full year of Hart does.

I love the Rangers rebuild. There will be some growing pain though and they have to subtract to clear cap space.

I think Jackets play with a chip on their shoulders and stay in contention, still a good bit of talent.

I can't believe I'm ranking NJ 7th after adding Hughes and Subban, but I still see a lot of holes and they need to resolve what to do with Hall. But I can see them placing higher.

NYI- I don't even think are that bad, but all this guys aren't playing for contracts anymore and teams that over-achieve with defensive play that don't make any moves to improve tend to regress.

Dead ass serious. I’m assuming at least 10 games missed for both Letang and Malkin and terrible usage and deployment from Sully. The margin for error has gotten too small for the expected mistakes/injuries.
- Feds91Stammer

Yeah because the pens haven’t dealt with injuries to Letang and Malkin before and the forward group is as deep as it’s been in years. Stick to the books kid.

Yeah because the pens haven’t dealt with injuries to Letang and Malkin before and the forward group is as deep as it’s been in years. Stick to the books kid.
- Grinder47

(frank) off scumbag

You aren't even remotely close to saying this first. There have been writers predicting this after losing Kessel and adding Tanev
- Guile

Galchenyuk Tanev Kahun Mccaan Blueger>Kessel. Kessel is better than anyone of those players individually but hockey is a team sport.

Canes
Caps
Rangers
Blue Jackets
Devils
Pens
Islanders
Flyers

How so? Trotz system made it so goalies faced the lowest scoring chances in the league. Greiss and Varlamov will be fine.
- Feds91Stammer

No joke, I read from the fancy stat guys online that this was just a narrative and that the quality of shots faced was actually middle of the pack

Canes
Caps
Rangers
Blue Jackets
Devils
Pens
Islanders
Flyers
- Feds91Stammer

Did the Rangers suddenly acquire a 2nd line center?

No joke, I read from the fancy stat guys online that this was just a narrative and that the quality of shots faced was actually middle of the pack
- WSCTeton17

From Mike Kelly:

Lehner going from the most goalie-friendly defensive system in the nhl to one of the most chaotic. Islanders alllowed 2nd fewest scoring chances off-the-rush this past season, Hawks allowed 5th most. Reads off entries are going to be more numerous & difficult in Chicago.

Did the Rangers suddenly acquire a 2nd line center?
- burgh4life87

Yes.

No joke, I read from the fancy stat guys online that this was just a narrative and that the quality of shots faced was actually middle of the pack
- WSCTeton17

At 5v5 they were 23rd in scoring chances against and 18th in high danger chances against. They had the best save % in the league.

He just posted a .927 though. I think everyone is overrating Lehner a bit.
- Feds91Stammer

And the year before he had an .892

As I said I think some teams in the metro are really going to struggle with goaltending and I think Carolina HAS to be included there. Mrazek has never started 55+ games and Reimer is questionable. I like CAR up front but swapping De Haan for Forsling was brutal