The Poo Poo Platter ain't getting it done for Point.
- Doc_Sarcasm

add raffl and the deal is done

Bill

From what I read and listen too, it seems the flyers are not considered a legit playoff team. They mention Philly but mention the holes and questions, maybe due to underachieving last couple years? The rangers and the rest of group seem to be more favored. Is that just me as a philly fan? Being on the inside what do you think?

Are we just the Dangerfield of the NHL?

Bill

From what I read and listen too, it seems the flyers are not considered a legit playoff team. They mention Philly but mention the holes and questions, maybe due to underachieving last couple years? The rangers and the rest of group seem to be more favored. Is that just me as a philly fan? Being on the inside what do you think?
- wcorvette

I see it as a lot of it is hype. Rangers added the shiny new toys in Panarin and Trouba. Both good players for sure but when I look at their roster, I don't see it on paper as better than the Flyers. The Metro is a complete crap shoot and a very tough division.

I see it as a lot of it is hype. Rangers added the shiny new toys in Panarin and Trouba. Both good players for sure but when I look at their roster, I don't see it on paper as better than the Flyers. The Metro is a complete crap shoot and a very tough division.
- MJL

Yeah I definitely see them being news

I think the Flyers can actually do some damage this season if they consistent lines working together, the back end is steady with Braun/Nisky and Hart plays consistent. They could also be horrible and give up and insane amount of SHG and have an inept powerplay. Lots of hockey people power ranking the Flyers outside of the playoffs in the 23-26 range which is crazy to me.

add raffl and the deal is done
- 2Real

thats just putting more poo on the platter.

Tk, Hagg and a 3rd for Point

Not enough cap but hey
- wcorvette

More like TK, one of Frost/Farabee, and a 1st for Point. MAYBE.

And then find the $8M+ in cap space to sign him.

More like TK, one of Frost/Farabee, and a 1st for Point. MAYBE.

And then find the $8M+ in cap space to sign him.
- jmatchett383

At a minimum. I don't believe he is in play. If you wanted him, you'd have to drastically overpay.

More like TK, one of Frost/Farabee, and a 1st for Point. MAYBE.

And then find the $8M+ in cap space to sign him.
- jmatchett383

At a minimum. I don't believe he is in play. If you wanted him, you'd have to drastically overpay.

Vrana deal has to be good for TKs contract now, yea?

At a minimum. I don't believe he is in play. If you wanted him, you'd have to drastically overpay.
- MJL

i dont think he will be moved and yeah he would cost a lot.

They have 5.5 of space, they need to sign point and erne, then next season they have Vasilevskiy, Sergachev and Cirelli.

I think Kucherov took a team friendly deal at 9.5, Point coming off a 92 point season, is he asking for more than 9.5? Or the same?

I think the Flyers can actually do some damage this season if they consistent lines working together, the back end is steady with Braun/Nisky and Hart plays consistent. They could also be horrible and give up and insane amount of SHG and have an inept powerplay. Lots of hockey people power ranking the Flyers outside of the playoffs in the 23-26 range which is crazy to me.
- Pixote Andolini

At the end of the day, there are still too many ifs overall, and too many ways that the season could get away from them.

At the end of the day, there are still too many ifs overall, and too many ways that the season could get away from them.
- Tomahawk

And a ton of ways it could break right.

Any team aside from the mid-80s Oilers has had to have a huge amount of breaks and breakout years from players to win the Cup. Heck, some would argue that St. Louis had no business beating Dallas, let alone Boston. So yes, there's a ton of question marks and ifs, and I don't think they're a legit SC contender, but I don't think it's out of the question...they'd just need to get some damn good answers to those question marks.

And a ton of ways it could break right.

Any team aside from the mid-80s Oilers has had to have a huge amount of breaks and breakout years from players to win the Cup. Heck, some would argue that St. Louis had no business beating Dallas, let alone Boston. So yes, there's a ton of question marks and ifs, and I don't think they're a legit SC contender, but I don't think it's out of the question...they'd just need to get some damn good answers to those question marks.
- jmatchett383

If Hart plays well, and plays in a lot of games, they'll make the PO's -- regardless of everything else.

If Hart plays well, and plays in a lot of games, they'll make the PO's -- regardless of everything else.
- Tomahawk

No 10+ game pointless/losing streaks. No 7-8 goalie carousels - having Hart/Elliot tandem steady throughout the season is an immediate upgrade. No weird inexplicable special teams issues. Let Patrick and his 3rd unit play pressure-free, let Hayes settle into the 2nd unit, steadying it - alongside a bounce-back season from Voracek, Gostisbehere, and Provorov and it all points to good things.

If Hart plays well, and plays in a lot of games, they'll make the PO's -- regardless of everything else.
- Tomahawk

No doubt, the goaltending sunk them last year. Coupled with Provorov and Ghost forgetting how to play in all 3 zones, the team was crippled and never recovered.

If Hart falters then what? Elliot cant carry the load. If hart regresses in any way may be a very long year again.

If Hart falters then what? Elliot cant carry the load. If hart regresses in any way may be a very long year again.
- daryl stanley

When Elliott gets hurt, not if.... when because that is what he does get injured. Then what?

At the end of the day, there are still too many ifs overall, and too many ways that the season could get away from them.
- Tomahawk

I was looking at the early odds to win the Eastern Conference, Flyers are like # 11. Which means after the coaching change, addition of Hayes, adding 2 veteran dmen, full season of Hart etc... still not projected to make the playoffs.

I was looking at the early odds to win the Eastern Conference, Flyers are like # 11. Which means after the coaching change, addition of Hayes, adding 2 veteran dmen, full season of Hart etc... still not projected to make the playoffs.
- PLindbergh31

yeah, they're always accurate.

No 10+ game pointless/losing streaks. No 7-8 goalie carousels - having Hart/Elliot tandem steady throughout the season is an immediate upgrade. No weird inexplicable special teams issues. Let Patrick and his 3rd unit play pressure-free, let Hayes settle into the 2nd unit, steadying it - alongside a bounce-back season from Voracek, Gostisbehere, and Provorov and it all points to good things.
- Pixote Andolini

All of this is reasonable and well within the realm of possibility.

But the goalie thing is the most important. I doubt any team could recover from what the Flyers went through last season with the goalies.

If Hart falters then what? Elliot cant carry the load. If hart regresses in any way may be a very long year again.
- daryl stanley

If he falters or goes through a bad stretch I still don't see it as being nearly as bad as using 8 goalies in a season.

I was looking at the early odds to win the Eastern Conference, Flyers are like # 11. Which means after the coaching change, addition of Hayes, adding 2 veteran dmen, full season of Hart etc... still not projected to make the playoffs.
- PLindbergh31

Probably good value in betting Flyers to win Metro

yeah, they're always accurate.
- Ftown19125

cancel the season. its over. we're cooked.

When Elliott gets hurt, not if.... when because that is what he does get injured. Then what?
- PLindbergh31

honestly not that concerned about his injuries though when dealing with the flyers medical staff all bets are off