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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jul 15 @ 3:47 PM ET
Thanks Carol. Appreciate the run down.

LE's not a struggling player that needs better quality ice time to "show case" him to improve value. LE has demonstrated being checked out ever since the Sedin promise never panned out. He doesn't want to be here.

Now that he's got his big pay there is little left. Only option is getting him off the team. Change of scenery or disgruntled is the story to the value.

- NuckUp

Are you his therapist?
anavar
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.29.2008

Jul 15 @ 3:53 PM ET
He looks pretty relaxed. It's the people spinning out of control that need to relax.

You would see the bulk of an ice pack on his shoulder. He's out on a boat sitting in the sun. Why the ice pack again? He hurt his shoulder drinking the beer he has covered?

- boonerbuck

Haha yeah, agree the spinsters need to relax for sure. Our fan base is notorious for the extremes. Could've tweaked something wakeboarding and had some ice on it and didn't want to mention it.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jul 15 @ 3:54 PM ET
Are you his therapist?
- manvanfan


I just can't believe it's a lock that there's no place for him on the roster.

What are we going to do? Double down on a bad decision by making another one just to move him at all costs?
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Jul 15 @ 3:56 PM ET
Are you his therapist?
- manvanfan


We might all need therapy if he's allowed to stay and play
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jul 15 @ 3:57 PM ET
Haha yeah, agree the spinsters need to relax for sure. Our fan base is notorious for the extremes. Could've tweaked something wakeboarding and had some ice on it and didn't want to mention it.
- anavar

Nipple ring?
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jul 15 @ 3:59 PM ET
Haha yeah, agree the spinsters need to relax for sure. Our fan base is notorious for the extremes. Could've tweaked something wakeboarding and had some ice on it and didn't want to mention it.
- anavar


Plausible.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jul 15 @ 4:00 PM ET
The summer of Loui



Thanks Carol

- VANTEL


CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jul 15 @ 4:00 PM ET
I just can't believe it's a lock that there's no place for him on the roster.

What are we going to do? Double down on a bad decision by making another one just to move him at all costs?

- golfingsince

I disagree. Imo he can’t play for the team ever again. He is a horrible example for the young players. Last to the rink and first off it. Dogs it in practice. All of this despite him being the highest paid player on the team. The only solution is Utica imo. At least we don’t have any prospects down their to worry about
anavar
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.29.2008

Jul 15 @ 4:01 PM ET
Nipple ring?
- A_SteamingLombardi

Lol new theory, nipple ring that's super sensitive or infected. I like it. 😂
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jul 15 @ 4:02 PM ET
Like someone said before he probably had a beer under it. He's not the guy that sensationalized the photo.

It would be awesome if he did it just to win a bet that he could make Vancouver freak out with that nothing photo.

- golfingsince



I think that would be awesome also, the minute it was posted there were OMG he's in a cast, I can see the square outlines under the blanket,

Boeser is a genius...move over Benning..
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jul 15 @ 4:02 PM ET
I just can't believe it's a lock that there's no place for him on the roster.

What are we going to do? Double down on a bad decision by making another one just to move him at all costs?

- golfingsince

I said the same thing about Gagner last season, where does he fit. Even though he was the teams 6th leading scoring forward.

Looking at the current roster.

Miller PEttersson Boeser
Pearson Horvat Ferland
Baertschi Sutter Virtanen
Leivo Beagle Motte

Eriksson hasn't shown in the past couple years to be a better scoring option than Ferland, Pearson or Miller.

Roussel is probably a better option than him also when he returns.

Having Leivo on the 4th line doesn't make much sense either.

golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jul 15 @ 4:03 PM ET
I disagree. Imo he can’t play for the team ever again. He is a horrible example for the young players. Last to the rink and first off it. Dogs it in practice. All of this despite him being the highest paid player on the team. The only solution is Utica imo. At least we don’t have any prospects down their to worry about
- CanuckDon


I think the coach, GM, player and agent all need to sit in a room. We're not going to eat salary, we aren't going to give up a pile of assets to move you. Coach, you're stuck with him too for the time being. You guys both need to make it work or he has no chance of leaving here. Now name your 10 teams.
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Jul 15 @ 4:04 PM ET
I just can't believe it's a lock that there's no place for him on the roster.

What are we going to do? Double down on a bad decision by making another one just to move him at all costs?

- golfingsince


As long as the cost isn't adding assets in a trade then the value is addition by subtraction. The cost to the team of having his sourness around is negative value.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jul 15 @ 4:06 PM ET
We might all need therapy if he's allowed to stay and play
- NuckUp

An NHL player that scored 30 points last season. Or Gaunce again. Pick your poison.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jul 15 @ 4:12 PM ET
I said the same thing about Gagner last season, where does he fit. Even though he was the teams 6th leading scoring forward.

Looking at the current roster.

Miller PEttersson Boeser
Pearson Horvat Ferland
Baertschi Sutter Virtanen
Leivo Beagle Motte

Eriksson hasn't shown in the past couple years to be a better scoring option than Ferland, Pearson or Miller.

Roussel is probably a better option than him also when he returns.

Having Leivo on the 4th line doesn't make much sense either.

- manvanfan


He probably fits best with Sutter than anyone else at this point.

I don't know why Motte's 16 points are anything special, nor his 30 in 153 career games. I get that he's younger, but his advanced stats aren't anything special. Leivo's a solid player.

I think sometimes people have pre-conceived notions of what a 4th line is. Aside from C which needs / should show defensive acumen and an ability to win faceoffs, it's really just your best players that don't fit in the top 9. The whole idea is to not get killed while they're out there.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jul 15 @ 4:13 PM ET
As long as the cost isn't adding assets in a trade then the value is addition by subtraction. The cost to the team of having his sourness around is negative value.
- NuckUp



I'll be blown away if it isn't.
anavar
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.29.2008

Jul 15 @ 4:16 PM ET
I'll be blown away if it isn't.
- golfingsince

They is no scenario where there isn't a sweetner of some sort.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jul 15 @ 4:16 PM ET
Thanks Carol.

If Ottawa was entertaining taking on Lui they would certainly want to move off Ryan, who has A LOT of real dollars still to pay out.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jul 15 @ 4:19 PM ET
They is no scenario where there isn't a sweetner of some sort.
- anavar

golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jul 15 @ 4:19 PM ET
Thanks Carol.

If Ottawa was entertaining taking on Lui they would certainly want to move off Ryan, who has A LOT of real dollars still to pay out.

- 1970vintage

He has an even higher cap hit for the same term. You're right, there's probably a trade to be had there and Ottawa might even have to add but I'm not so sure that helps any.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jul 15 @ 4:20 PM ET
He probably fits best with Sutter than anyone else at this point.

I don't know why Motte's 16 points are anything special, nor his 30 in 153 career games. I get that he's younger, but his advanced stats aren't anything special. Leivo's a solid player.

I think sometimes people have pre-conceived notions of what a 4th line is. Aside from C which needs / should show defensive acumen and an ability to win faceoffs, it's really just your best players that don't fit in the top 9. The whole idea is to not get killed while they're out there.

- golfingsince

Many 4th lines are different too many teams. Travis Green's 4th line is generally defensive only, start in their own zone only, attempt to not be a minus every game.

Motte's 16 points are cheaper and younger, faster, more physical. Different attributes that's LE don't have.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jul 15 @ 4:21 PM ET
They is no scenario where there isn't a sweetner of some sort.
- anavar


Right now I think 2 2nd round picks, maybe a 2nd and a 3rd. I know Vancouver isn't Toronto desperate but that's 3 years.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jul 15 @ 4:22 PM ET
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Certain members of “Canucks twitter” : the media is too negative.

The same certain members of “Canucks twitter” : let’s poop on hardworking people and attack their work and tell them they are terrible attention seeking people.

Have you heard of the word hypocrisy ??
canuckfan069
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Langley, BC
Joined: 02.28.2006

Jul 15 @ 4:23 PM ET
If LE's contract ends up getting ripped up (I could never see that happening btw) I know he can't sign with another NHL team but is there any cap/recapture penalties?
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Jul 15 @ 4:24 PM ET
They is no scenario where there isn't a sweetner of some sort.
- anavar


50% retention is sweet. If not waive him.
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