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Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jul 16 @ 11:09 PM ET
Kampf???
- BGKarras

I like Kampf. Which, of course, means I think he is ticketed for the HoF.

Put Kampf in the role he belongs in and fans will love him.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jul 16 @ 11:10 PM ET
And I REALLY hope this move wasn't made in order to give Perlini 2mil
- PatShart

I feel icky. I agree with you.
Ogilthorpe2
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

Jul 16 @ 11:10 PM ET
And I REALLY hope this move wasn't made in order to give Perlini 2mil
- PatShart

Oh, it’s coming. Stan has lost his (frank)ing mind.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Jul 16 @ 11:12 PM ET
I like Kampf. Which, of course, means I think he is ticketed for the HoF.

Put Kampf in the role he belongs in and fans will love him.

- Elbows15


3C!!!
PatShart
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Vegas, NV
Joined: 06.25.2015

Jul 16 @ 11:13 PM ET
Good lord willing...
- Ogilthorpe2


May vishnu help as well
PatShart
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Vegas, NV
Joined: 06.25.2015

Jul 16 @ 11:14 PM ET
I like Kampf. Which, of course, means I think he is ticketed for the HoF.

Put Kampf in the role he belongs in and fans will love him.

- Elbows15


Filling water bottles and taping sticks?
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jul 16 @ 11:15 PM ET
3C!!!
- mohel

No, that's not it.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jul 16 @ 11:16 PM ET
Filling water bottles and taping sticks?
- PatShart

The icky has passed
PatShart
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Vegas, NV
Joined: 06.25.2015

Jul 16 @ 11:18 PM ET
The icky has passed
- Elbows15


That was just gas
BGKarras
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jul 16 @ 11:24 PM ET
I like Kampf. Which, of course, means I think he is ticketed for the HoF.

Put Kampf in the role he belongs in and fans will love him.

- Elbows15

Bows I said this before Stan will make another deal. Wait another week or so when Scotty tells Stan to pull the trigger.
PatShart
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Vegas, NV
Joined: 06.25.2015

Jul 16 @ 11:24 PM ET
Now...Stan if goes and trades Perlini, Gus to Vegas for Gusev

I may be impressed
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Jul 16 @ 11:25 PM ET
Now...Stan if goes and trades Perlini, Gus to Vegas for Gusev

I may be impressed

- PatShart


Is the Russian a center?
Ogilthorpe2
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

Jul 16 @ 11:26 PM ET
Now...Stan if goes and trades Perlini, Gus to Vegas for Gusev

I may be impressed

- PatShart

That way you can watch Perlini play, in person...like all the time!
PatShart
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Vegas, NV
Joined: 06.25.2015

Jul 16 @ 11:28 PM ET
That way you can watch Perlini play, in person...like all the time!
- Ogilthorpe2



He and Pirri
PatShart
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Vegas, NV
Joined: 06.25.2015

Jul 16 @ 11:28 PM ET
Is the Russian a center?
- mohel


No. A LW.

Some think Panarin
PatShart
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Vegas, NV
Joined: 06.25.2015

Jul 16 @ 11:30 PM ET
Tampa is considering trading Point to get picks and prospect back to flip to get Gusev in TB.

Kucherov wants him there bad
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jul 16 @ 11:42 PM ET
Bows I said this before Stan will make another deal. Wait another week or so when Scotty tells Stan to pull the trigger.
- BGKarras

TBh, I haven't been a fan of the last two. We'll see. Who knows. Though TT was okay here, it seems being traded caused him to take his game to a better level. Maybe Nylander can be useful.



Assman22
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: San Francisco, CA
Joined: 04.13.2012

Jul 16 @ 11:42 PM ET
Tampa is considering trading Point to get picks and prospect back to flip to get Gusev in TB.

Kucherov wants him there bad

- PatShart

What would we have to give up (besides Perlini lol) for Point?
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jul 16 @ 11:43 PM ET
That way you can watch Perlini play, in person...like all the time!
- Ogilthorpe2

Well, only when he decides to show up. So, a couple of weeks.
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Jul 16 @ 11:43 PM ET
I nominate HawkintheD.
- mohel


Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jul 16 @ 11:44 PM ET
What would we have to give up (besides Perlini lol) for Point?
- Assman22

About ~10M in assets.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jul 16 @ 11:45 PM ET

- HawkintheD

I have met Mo. Trust me. He looks nothing like that.
John McDonough
Joined: 11.30.2017

Jul 16 @ 11:48 PM ET
Well zone deployment and quality of competition do not inherently impact each other - there can be all kind of combinations of usage/deployment. Like just because a player is deployed more in the DZ does not mean they faced 1-2 line quality of players and just because a player is deployed predominantly in the OZ does not mean they faced low quality of comp. Kane obviously saw much more OZ deployment than Smith or Anisimov, but he still faced the highest QOC of the 3. Even when Kruger was getting the lion's share of DZS with the Hawks, Toews saw the highest QOC.

As for zone deployment numbers themselves, to get a more detailed snapshot, it's more useful to look 3 zone split. Here are Anisimov and Smith's zone start % for the last 3 seasons:

Anisimov
2018-19: 33.33 OZ%, 30.76 DZ%, 35.91 NZ%
2017-18: 35.33 OZ%, 33.69 DZ%, 30.99 NZ%
2016-17: 39.23 OZ%, 21.42 DZ%, 39.35 NZ%

Smith
2018-19: 24.05 OZ% 33.77 DZ% 42.18 NZ%
2017-18: 27.00 OZ%, 32.06 DZ%, 40.94 NZ%
2016-17: 33.16 OZ%, 32.33 DZ%, 34.51 NZ%

So as we can see for the last two seasons, Anisimov and Smith were deployed in the DZ a similar amount - 1-3% difference year - but Anisimov did get more OZS and Smith more NZS. The 2016-17 season is when their deployment splits more - Anisimov was skewed more heavily in the OZS then thanks to be partnered with Panarin/Kane. Their QOC TOI% for all 3 seasons was 2L with little to no difference except that Anisimov faced the highest with Pan/Kane.

But here's something to think about: Chicago got typically 3-5% more OZS as a team than Ottawa (they're just better at getting stoppage in a OZ which is systematic), so the difference on a relative level shrinks when you factor this in.

Anyway, I'm not actually disagreeing that Smith is a b6 forward (4th line) and Anisimov skews more top 6 (though ideally 3rd line), but there is nothing to suggest that Anisimov would be worse than Smith in a b6 role. Smith actually wasn't playing in a shutdown role on the Sens either - he was made to play higher than his ability in a 2/3L role and he did poorly at it in many key areas (transition, passing, slot shot suppression).

However, if Smith is used predominantly as a checking line player facing mid-tier comp overall and with the right linemates, he could definitely be serviceable - preferably 4th line with someone who can drive possession for him as that's not his strength (he's fine with maintenance and puck recovery is just below average but again lower QOC could help with that).

- L_B_R



mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Jul 16 @ 11:48 PM ET
I have met Mo. Trust me. He looks nothing like that.
- Elbows15


Truth.
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Jul 16 @ 11:49 PM ET
I have met Mo. Trust me. He looks nothing like that.
- Elbows15


Wait...Mo's a dude???
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