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DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jul 16 @ 10:43 PM ET
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- walleyeb1


The Peaky Blinders make everything better.
z1990z
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NW USA
Joined: 02.09.2012

Jul 16 @ 10:44 PM ET
When that edge results in lots of penalties taken, it’s useless...almost as useless as faceoff stats.

And if we have to imitate the goddamn (frank)ing Blues to win another cup...pass.

- Ogilthorpe2



Not saying imitate anything. Saying you need to have that element. Hawks have not had that since 2015. Guess we will see.
PatShart
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Vegas, NV
Joined: 06.25.2015

Jul 16 @ 10:47 PM ET
Hawks downgraded big time, but they saved money

Theres no ways around it.

But oh well...good luck to AA and he doesnt have to be the whipping boy anymore

And good bye center depth. It was nice for a few weeks!
BGKarras
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jul 16 @ 10:47 PM ET
Stop the bickering guys.

It's hockey.

Stop the name calling and fighting.

It's hockey.

- Tyler Cameron

It's the dog day's of summer.....Nothing better to do until the puck drops.
Ogilthorpe2
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

Jul 16 @ 10:48 PM ET
Not saying imitate anything. Saying you need to have that element. Hawks have not had that since 2015. Guess we will see.
- z1990z

Bottom line IMO is what Sage just alluded to...this trade filled no need (except a tiny bit of cap space relief) but instead created one at 3C.
L_B_R
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.23.2014

Jul 16 @ 10:50 PM ET
I need LBR to explain this to me, but it looks pretty good for us if I'm reading it correctly.
- tvetter

Those are higher level result stats relative to their own teams - they're not relative to each other. Since the quality of teammate is higher for the Hawks over the Sens, the comparison using relative numbers isn't straight enough for it to be particularly useful outside of seeing how the compared to their own team. Is it much of a surprise that Anisimov isn't as good as Toews/Kane/Cat but that Smith is slightly better than a roster that had 7 replacement level forwards or worse on it for 30+ games each?

It would be better to look at flat rates while considering context of usage and deployment. Better yet, digging into micro stats is ideal because those are impacted less obviously by quality of team than shot result metrics.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jul 16 @ 10:50 PM ET
Hawks downgraded big time, but they saved money

Theres no ways around it.

But oh well...good luck to AA and he doesnt have to be the whipping boy anymore

And good bye center depth. It was nice for a few weeks!

- PatShart

We need a poll to find a new whipping boy.
DrewDawg
Joined: 05.10.2016

Jul 16 @ 10:51 PM ET
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jul 16 @ 10:51 PM ET
It's the dog day's of summer.....Nothing better to do until the puck drops.
- BGKarras

*drops gloves*
Bhawks44
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Berwyn , IL
Joined: 05.16.2015

Jul 16 @ 10:52 PM ET
You'd think we traded away Kane.
PatShart
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Vegas, NV
Joined: 06.25.2015

Jul 16 @ 10:52 PM ET
We need a poll to find a new whipping boy.
- Elbows15

How about oglethorpe?

He and I agreed a few times of late and I'm not sure it's a good thing
BGKarras
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jul 16 @ 10:53 PM ET
We need a poll to find a new whipping boy.
- Elbows15

Kampf???
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Jul 16 @ 10:53 PM ET
We need a poll to find a new whipping boy.
- Elbows15


I nominate HawkintheD.
PatShart
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Vegas, NV
Joined: 06.25.2015

Jul 16 @ 10:53 PM ET
You'd think we traded away Kane.
- Bhawks44


You'd think they acquired John Scott
Ogilthorpe2
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

Jul 16 @ 10:54 PM ET
We need a poll to find a new whipping boy.
- Elbows15

Probably whoever slots in at 3C, since whoever it is will likely be in over their head.
BGKarras
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jul 16 @ 10:54 PM ET
You'd think they acquired John Scott
- PatShart

I thought we got Michael Grosek....
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Jul 16 @ 10:54 PM ET
You'd think we traded away Kane.
- Bhawks44


And you'd think the return was 1980's Messier.
Ogilthorpe2
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

Jul 16 @ 10:55 PM ET
You'd think we traded away Kane.
- Bhawks44

Nope, just the only viable option for 3C.
Ogilthorpe2
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

Jul 16 @ 10:55 PM ET
How about oglethorpe?

He and I agreed a few times of late and I'm not sure it's a good thing

- PatShart

I know. I’m scared too.
PatShart
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Vegas, NV
Joined: 06.25.2015

Jul 16 @ 10:56 PM ET
Nope, just the only viable option for 3C.
- Ogilthorpe2


They have no veteran Centers on the team after Toews

Hopefully a full camp for JC can help him develop one πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚
BMoreHawks
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 07.09.2019

Jul 16 @ 11:00 PM ET
We need a poll to find a new whipping boy.
- Elbows15


I vote for Smith
Ogilthorpe2
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

Jul 16 @ 11:03 PM ET
I vote for Smith
- BMoreHawks

He’ll likely be in the pressbox most nights, so not sure he qualifies.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Jul 16 @ 11:03 PM ET
They have no veteran Centers on the team after Toews

Hopefully a full camp for JC can help him develop one πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

- PatShart


It's interesting that Stan would use so much cap resources to protect against an injury to Crow, and the trade to leave himself so exposed to an injury to Toews or Strome. There's gotta be more to come. I hope.
Ogilthorpe2
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

Jul 16 @ 11:06 PM ET
It's interesting that Stan would use so much cap resources to protect against an injury to Crow, and the trade to leave himself so exposed to an injury to Toews or Strome. There's gotta be more to come. I hope.
- mohel

Good lord willing...
PatShart
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Vegas, NV
Joined: 06.25.2015

Jul 16 @ 11:07 PM ET
And I REALLY hope this move wasn't made in order to give Perlini 2mil
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