That’s a really good point . If you can get an upgrade in the top six what’s the point really ? Maybe at the trade deadline when teams are selling off it could make more sense .
- Allforhim12

If the Flames are trading Brodie at the trade deadline, it means their season was a disaster.

I don't think there's any real urgency in trading Brodie. If theres a deal to be made that checks all the boxes for Tre, he'll pull the trigger. I think the lack of activity of directly related to Tkachuk's contract. I think allot of the strategy on free agency, cap maintenance, et al is based on what that contract looks like.

Frolik and Stone are the no brainers but Frolik's value is not what it was and Stone's, well... Its not like Brodie is a complete plug and we do have some players in the wings. Valimaki is going to be in our top four and soon. If there isn't a deal to be had before the season starts, meh, I'd rather hold onto him then have Tre pull a Chia-esque move and give up decent for dog poop.

I don't think there's any real urgency in trading Brodie. If theres a deal to be made that checks all the boxes for Tre, he'll pull the trigger. I think the lack of activity of directly related to Tkachuk's contract. I think allot of the strategy on free agency, cap maintenance, et al is based on what that contract looks like.

Frolik and Stone are the no brainers but Frolik's value is not what it was and Stone's, well... Its not like Brodie is a complete plug and we do have some players in the wings. Valimaki is going to be in our top four and soon. If there isn't a deal to be had before the season starts, meh, I'd rather hold onto him then have Tre pull a Chia-esque move and give up decent for dog poop.
- geta02it

We don't have to trade Brodie by any means. Our cap troubles are way overblown and if Tre needs the cap space buying out Stone should easily clear enough, and even if it doesn't Frolik makes more sense as a cap dump. If we can move him and get a clear upgrade in our forward core, though, Tre should pull the trigger. He's already been traded for Kadri so I'd expect at least that if we were to move him. If Tre doesn't get an offer he likes he'll just hold on to Brodie. He isn't just going to move him for the sake of moving him.

We don't have to trade Brodie by any means. Our cap troubles are way overblown and if Tre needs the cap space buying out Stone should easily clear enough, and even if it doesn't Frolik makes more sense as a cap dump. If we can move him and get a clear upgrade in our forward core, though, Tre should pull the trigger. He's already been traded for Kadri so I'd expect at least that if we were to move him. If Tre doesn't get an offer he likes he'll just hold on to Brodie. He isn't just going to move him for the sake of moving him.
- Helios

Uh ya, kinda my point...

I am hearing that New Jersey and Arizona has some interest in TJ. Not sure what would be coming back the other way
- hotshotbeer

I don't think it will be Palmieri as somebody else mentioned but I could see a package around Wood(2.75mil) or Coleman(1.8mil) + a cheaper asset (pick/prospect)

I don't think it will be Palmieri as somebody else mentioned but I could see a package around Wood(2.75mil) or Coleman(1.8mil) + a cheaper asset (pick/prospect)
- Gambi99

I don't know why the Devils would want Brodie when they can have Gardiner for free. They're basically the same player.

I don't know why the Devils would want Brodie when they can have Gardiner for free. They're basically the same player.
- Hunkulese

Except if the player wants a long term deal & he's one back injury to a chronic LTIR.
He's a risky signing.

If the Flames are trading Brodie at the trade deadline, it means their season was a disaster.
- Hunkulese

Not if Val fills the bill and they can get a top 6 forward in return

Not if Val fills the bill and they can get a top 6 forward in return
- Allforhim12

That's not how the trade deadline works.

I don't know why the Devils would want Brodie when they can have Gardiner for free. They're basically the same player.
- Hunkulese

We can get Brodie for 1 year to see if he fits and plays well, if he does then we can sign him (we have plenty of space), at worst if he doesn't fit/play well we let him go after the season, no long-term commitment as for Gardiner we have to commit right off the bat probably 6-7 years. If his back acts up or plays below his market value we are stuck with him for the duration of his "over-priced" contract.

We can get Brodie for 1 year to see if he fits and plays well, if he does then we can sign him (we have plenty of space), at worst if he doesn't fit/play well we let him go after the season, no long-term commitment as for Gardiner we have to commit right off the bat probably 6-7 years. If his back acts up or plays below his market value we are stuck with him for the duration of his "over-priced" contract.
- Gambi99

Brodie's also going to cost the Devils at least a first round pick and something else, and then he's going to need an "overpriced" contract.

If the Devils aren't going to pay Hall, they could always trade him for Brodie, a first, and Dube.

Brodie's also going to cost the Devils at least a first round pick and something else, and then he's going to need an "overpriced" contract.

If the Devils aren't going to pay Hall, they could always trade him for Brodie, a first, and Dube.
- Hunkulese

I one of the few Devil fans that would trade Hall right now even if he wanted to sign there. He's not worth the 11-12mil he's going to ask for and I love him as a player but not worth it. I would trade him for younger players/prospects/picks and continue to build around Nico/Hughes/Smith/Bratt etc. As for Brodie, If we are trading Hall then no need for Brodie (would want him for fielding a completive team for Hall), I would go after Valimaki instead which I know Flame fans won't want to give up.

I one of the few Devil fans that would trade Hall right now even if he wanted to sign there. He's not worth the 11-12mil he's going to ask for and I love him as a player but not worth it. I would trade him for younger players/prospects/picks and continue to build around Nico/Hughes/Smith/Bratt etc. As for Brodie, If we are trading Hall then no need for Brodie (would want him for fielding a completive team for Hall), I would go after Valimaki instead which I know Flame fans won't want to give up.
- Gambi99

Most Flames fans would be happy with a Hall for Valimaki trade, but there's really no way to make the dollars work. The Devils would have to take Frolik and Stone as well and then add some picks and/or prospects to even out the value.

Most Flames fans would be happy with a Hall for Valimaki trade, but there's really no way to make the dollars work. The Devils would have to take Frolik and Stone as well and then add some picks and/or prospects to even out the value.
- Hunkulese

Oh yeah, I agree and I know the Devils even had interest in Frolik a while back. I'm no GM and I'm not sure about what's fair or not, I hate doing trade "offer" but I would trade Hall and Coleman for Frolik, Neal, Val, Dube and #1 (I would want that pick for Neal's contract which is a tough pill to swallow). I figure this trade would allow Calgary to easily re-sign Hall plus they add a 27yr old 20g scorer who is great on the penalty kill and plays great 2-way game upfront who can fit in the top 9 for a team ready to win now and they get rid of that albatross contract in Neal. For the Devils they add 3 "young" assets for their rebuild while eating Neal's contract (again Devils have plenty of space) and Frolik for 1 year (maybe they can trade him at the deadline for something). Again this "my" thinking, not sure if any GM in the league thinks like me

Brodie's also going to cost the Devils at least a first round pick and something else, and then he's going to need an "overpriced" contract.

If the Devils aren't going to pay Hall, they could always trade him for Brodie, a first, and Dube.
- Hunkulese

At least a first and something else. BLAH BLAH BLAH

Oh yeah, I agree and I know the Devils even had interest in Frolik a while back. I'm no GM and I'm not sure about what's fair or not, I hate doing trade "offer" but I would trade Hall and Coleman for Frolik, Neal, Val, Dube and #1 (I would want that pick for Neal's contract which is a tough pill to swallow). I figure this trade would allow Calgary to easily re-sign Hall plus they add a 27yr old 20g scorer who is great on the penalty kill and plays great 2-way game upfront who can fit in the top 9 for a team ready to win now and they get rid of that albatross contract in Neal. For the Devils they add 3 "young" assets for their rebuild while eating Neal's contract (again Devils have plenty of space) and Frolik for 1 year (maybe they can trade him at the deadline for something). Again this "my" thinking, not sure if any GM in the league thinks like me
- Gambi99

The Flames would for sure make that deal if it included a guaranteed Hall extension at a somewhat reasonable number.

The Flames would for sure make that deal if it included a guaranteed Hall extension at a somewhat reasonable number.
- Hunkulese

I'd do it even if Hall walked as a UFA. Just think of this :

Johnny - Money - Hall
Tkachuk - Backs - Lindholm
Bennett - Jankowski - Coleman
Mangiapane - Ryan - Czarnik

Giordano - Brodie
Hanifin - Hamonic
Kylington - Andersson

I honestly can't think of a better lineup in the whole league. Cup favorites for sure.

I'd do it even if Hall walked as a UFA. Just think of this :

Johnny - Money - Hall
Tkachuk - Backs - Lindholm
Bennett - Jankowski - Coleman
Mangiapane - Ryan - Czarnik

Giordano - Brodie
Hanifin - Hamonic
Kylington - Andersson

I honestly can't think of a better lineup in the whole league. Cup favorites for sure.
- redseerpf

Considering how much of a crap shoot the playoffs are, it's too big of a risk to give up Valimaki, Dube, and a first for one year of Hall, even if they're also getting rid of Neal.

Having Hall locked up for the next 6+ years also basically guarantees the Flames at least two first overall picks.

Any deal including Stone decreases Brodie's value. Fans that expect Brodie to fetch a late 1st/high 2nd can then expect nothing more than a high 3rd. Taking on added negative value reduces the return. And i am a fan of the game in general before teams and believe Brodies value is more to a mid to late 2nd at best. His play away from Gio has brought up some questions.

But good luck continuing to think he has a 1st round pick, in what is expected to be a deep draft year, return coming. Maybe at deadline if they find a taker on the fringes of a cup run with a need for a top 4, they can recoup a mid to high 2nd. But no one is taking on a contract like his in a season when the cap didnt jump but hopped without something going back until he proves he can play. Next up the Oilers will expect a high 1st for Puj....

Any deal including Stone decreases Brodie's value. Fans that expect Brodie to fetch a late 1st/high 2nd can then expect nothing more than a high 3rd. Taking on added negative value reduces the return. And i am a fan of the game in general before teams and believe Brodies value is more to a mid to late 2nd at best. His play away from Gio has brought up some questions.

But good luck continuing to think he has a 1st round pick, in what is expected to be a deep draft year, return coming. Maybe at deadline if they find a taker on the fringes of a cup run with a need for a top 4, they can recoup a mid to high 2nd. But no one is taking on a contract like his in a season when the cap didnt jump but hopped without something going back until he proves he can play. Next up the Oilers will expect a high 1st for Puj....
- wreckage

Flames can pretty easily buy out Stone.

Flames can pretty easily buy out Stone.
- DuranDuran

They won't need to buy him out. It won't be hard at all to trade him unless he won't waive his NTC.

They won't need to buy him out. It won't be hard at all to trade him unless he won't waive his NTC.
- Hunkulese

I know, just saying worst case scenario Stone and his contract can be dealt with.