+2mil.
- burn

well I am not not Yan
- Not_Yan

YAN!

- winsix

Everyone was getting wayyyy too casual slandering Mitch, our MITCHY!!

Nope! I let em know that’s not cool. The seagull changed his tone (he goes where the wind blows)

Aethy never stays mad.. but Santo is. Oh well.
- Tanooki

That's true.

(Except one ref, and a couple Sens fans)

That's true.

(Except one ref, and a couple Sens fans)
- Aetherial

I think you're confusing anger with pitty

Even though I'm slandering Mitch on days I'm not loving Mitch, you still like me right aa?
- mykokes

My favourite player on the Leafs is Marner... but I find it frustrating that actually playing for a team that could be a contender seems to mean absolutely zero. It is all about squeezing every last cent out of the team, and not giving a poop about what impact that might have on the ability to actual build a championship team.

If he could sign an offer sheet of 14 million and force the Leafs to trade Morgan Rielly to match, he would do it.

How, as a fan, can I get behind that greed.

Marner is not the only player guilty of this, but he is the second in 2 years, and in between that Matthews signed a horrible contract for the team, and it isn't Dubas' fault.

This whole RFA landscape is (frank)ed. Players want to be paid like UFA's NOW, before they have done SFA in the league... and then they want to be able to renegotiate and hold the team over a barrel again in 4 or 5 more years... and what if they STILL have not accomplished anything? We know that won't stop them.

My favourite player on the Leafs is Marner... but I find it frustrating that actually playing for a team that could be a contender seems to mean absolutely zero. It is all about squeezing every last cent out of the team, and not giving a poop about what impact that might have on the ability to actual build a championship team.

If he could sign an offer sheet of 14 million and force the Leafs to trade Morgan Rielly to match, he would do it.

How, as a fan, can I get behind that greed.

Marner is not the only player guilty of this, but he is the second in 2 years, and in between that Matthews signed a horrible contract for the team, and it isn't Dubas' fault.

This whole RFA landscape is (frank)ed. Players want to be paid like UFA's NOW, before they have done SFA in the league... and then they want to be able to renegotiate and hold the team over a barrel again in 4 or 5 more years... and what if they STILL have not accomplished anything? We know that won't stop them.
- Aetherial

(frank)ing millenials dude

I think he's American born and spent a lot of time playing in the US.

Like all these prospects, they're going to need time in the AHL.

Looking back at Panarin, he scored 60 in the KHL then 20 in the playoffs and he was 23 and then stepped into playing with Kane and the Blackhawks.

Not sure any of the guys Dubas has signed is on that level. They all look like depth guys at best.
- JohnFergusonJr

Panarin's story was already documented in full

I think you're confusing anger with pitty
- burn

It is very sad for them, but not for Ceci!

I think Duby does not want to sign Mitch to a 5yr deal, that puts all 3 players contracts up at the same time

3, 6 or 8 makes the most sense. and it sounds like Mitchy side does not want long term...so more like 3 years

My favourite player on the Leafs is Marner... but I find it frustrating that actually playing for a team that could be a contender seems to mean absolutely zero. It is all about squeezing every last cent out of the team, and not giving a poop about what impact that might have on the ability to actual build a championship team.

If he could sign an offer sheet of 14 million and force the Leafs to trade Morgan Rielly to match, he would do it.

How, as a fan, can I get behind that greed.

Marner is not the only player guilty of this, but he is the second in 2 years, and in between that Matthews signed a horrible contract for the team, and it isn't Dubas' fault.

This whole RFA landscape is (frank)ed. Players want to be paid like UFA's NOW, before they have done SFA in the league... and then they want to be able to renegotiateSTILL and hold the team over a barrel again in 4 or 5 more years... and what if they have not accomplished anything? We know that won't stop them.
- Aetherial

The collective barganing agreement runs out on September 15, 2022. Three years from now, there will be an insistence by the owner/management side to have all players off entry level deal be arbitration eligible. This will at least force bargaining in good faith and probably get more reasonable contracts for this category of player.
Teams like Tampa, Jets and Leafs and Chicago who have either drafted well and/or been fortunate enough to draft high and build a strong team are being punished by a combination of the hard cap and the threat of RFA blackmail. Until that new agreement is made, this bullsh!t will continue.

The collective barganing agreement runs out on September 15, 2022. Three years from now, there will be an insistence by the owner/management side to have all players off entry level deal be arbitration eligible. This will at least force bargaining in good faith and probably get more reasonable contracts for this category of player.
Teams like Tampa, Jets and Leafs and Chicago who have either drafted well and/or been fortunate enough to draft high and build a strong team are being punished by a combination of the hard cap and the threat of RFA blackmail. Until that new agreement is made, this bullsh!t will continue.
- winsix

- winsix

lmfaoooooo

Hey Mitch....

Here's $9.5 X 6 years or $10.5 X 8 years.

Sign it or....


- .HOHO.

People are actually angry with mitch.
Lol
Jesus.
The player with the most points the past two years?
He has all summer to sign, whats the rush
No big deal.
No other rfas have signed either, are the fans of those teams whining and hating on them?

What Hyman brings is quite valuable and he's very underrated by many.
- Zezel

Intangibles

People are actually angry with mitch.
Lol
Jesus.
The player with the most points the past two years?
He has all summer to sign, whats the rush
No big deal.
No other rfas have signed either, are the fans of those teams whining and hating on them?
- Fakepartofme

Yes. Other than the Avs because they have 50 bazillion in Cap Space.

How are they worse defensively?

They got rid of the worst defensive dmen on the team.
- burn

Not true.
They re-signed the worst one.

I think Duby does not want to sign Mitch to a 5yr deal, that puts all 3 players contracts up at the same time

3, 6 or 8 makes the most sense. and it sounds like Mitchy side does not want long term...so more like 3 years
- senstroll

3 years makes the most sense to me. Keeps the cap hit lower too.

Then sign him to 8 year deal after that. He’ll most likely be a leaf for most of career.

My favourite player on the Leafs is Marner... but I find it frustrating that actually playing for a team that could be a contender seems to mean absolutely zero. It is all about squeezing every last cent out of the team, and not giving a poop about what impact that might have on the ability to actual build a championship team.

If he could sign an offer sheet of 14 million and force the Leafs to trade Morgan Rielly to match, he would do it.

How, as a fan, can I get behind that greed.

Marner is not the only player guilty of this, but he is the second in 2 years, and in between that Matthews signed a horrible contract for the team, and it isn't Dubas' fault.

This whole RFA landscape is (frank)ed. Players want to be paid like UFA's NOW, before they have done SFA in the league... and then they want to be able to renegotiate and hold the team over a barrel again in 4 or 5 more years... and what if they STILL have not accomplished anything? We know that won't stop them.
- Aetherial

Owners thought that teams would have much more control over RFAs and would be able to get a few more years of lower costs. Problem is that good/great players are going to push for big numbers whether they are RFA or UFA. All teams (at least all teams with good young players) face this. Well managed teams will be able to assess who is worth it and who isn’t.

Marner is one of the best players in the league and wants to be paid for it. Dubas still has considerable leverage. I don’t have a problem with what either side is trying to get. My only problem is with Ferris leaking stuff to Dreger and buddies.

If it’s okay to slander Nylander, it’s okay to slander Greedy Mitchy.
- Steven_Seagull

Willie missed 2 months of the season.
No one has any facts on what marner wants or doesnt want...yet.
Its early july.
People need to chill....or go float in a lake to cool off.

Safely

Tee hee.

I hear what’s said in the media. Idk.. I think people are overreacting big time about Paul and Ferris. It’s money, emotions are involved. Fans in Toronto, imo, are starting to prove to be very fragile. The new generation is dying to be cocky, and the Raps gave it to them. Now it’s like “(frank) Mitch, we have an NBA Championship!” Lol..

Anything that happen to an athlete in Toronto gets magnified. Vladdy I think will soak up much of the crazy.
- Tanooki

Nah, it's more like "(frank) Mitch, if he truly believes he's worth $3M more than he actually is."

First and foremost, I, and pretty much everyone else, want Marner back on the Leafs. But if he's stuck on getting Matthews $$$, then it's just not gonna happen. Not only is he not worth it, the team literally can't do it. There is a CAP. And trading away players just to overpay him is foolish.

My favourite player on the Leafs is Marner... but I find it frustrating that actually playing for a team that could be a contender seems to mean absolutely zero. It is all about squeezing every last cent out of the team, and not giving a poop about what impact that might have on the ability to actual build a championship team.

If he could sign an offer sheet of 14 million and force the Leafs to trade Morgan Rielly to match, he would do it.

How, as a fan, can I get behind that greed.

Marner is not the only player guilty of this, but he is the second in 2 years, and in between that Matthews signed a horrible contract for the team, and it isn't Dubas' fault.

This whole RFA landscape is (frank)ed. Players want to be paid like UFA's NOW, before they have done SFA in the league... and then they want to be able to renegotiate and hold the team over a barrel again in 4 or 5 more years... and what if they STILL have not accomplished anything? We know that won't stop them.
- Aetherial

But do you know for a fact thats actually what hes trying to do?

Not really.

i mean by being sh!tty for the sabers after dubass trades him for risto 🙏🏿
- Skalapy

That's true.

(Except one ref, and a couple Sens fans)
- Aetherial

Is it the troll ref from the west coast?

Yes. Other than the Avs because they have 50 bazillion in Cap Space.
- AdamFrench

I haven't seen any others fans whining and hating as much as some leafs fans.