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Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jul 10 @ 11:39 AM ET
I love that American sports radio is just two douches poopting on pro athletes and here in Canada everybody is on eggshells about potentially insulting somebody.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jul 10 @ 11:40 AM ET
That's double Kucherov! He did 3 x 4.7 on his bridge.
- The Law


Yes, but before his bridge contract he did around 65 points

Not 94.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jul 10 @ 11:43 AM ET
That's double Kucherov! He did 3 x 4.7 on his bridge.
- The Law

Cool..that's 4 years ago.
Different time and different circumstances.
No relevance now.
Imo
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jul 10 @ 11:44 AM ET
Yes, but before his bridge contract he did around 65 points

Not 94.

- Scabeh

Exactly
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Jul 10 @ 11:45 AM ET
Best 5v5 goal scorer...
- Steven_Seagull

two words:



Ryan
Poehling
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jul 10 @ 11:46 AM ET
two words:



Ryan
Poehling

- MaximusAurelius

Irrefutable. Can't believe the Habs have the best and worst goal scorers in history.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jul 10 @ 11:46 AM ET
That's double Kucherov! He did 3 x 4.7 on his bridge.
- The Law


yeah. a 3 year deal is 6ish for marner imo.

i really don't get it. unless marner has the balls to sign an offer sheet, he really has minimal leverage.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jul 10 @ 11:58 AM ET
two words:



Ryan
Poehling

- MaximusAurelius


If your only playing 2 mins/game....he’s your man.
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jul 10 @ 12:03 PM ET
I love the guy, scored a ton, still 65 points behind #1 though ( I realize he missed some games )

My opinion is he got 8 yr money and a 5 year term and it will be even more crushing if he walks after 5.

- Garnie


All those guys signed 5 yr deals and stayed.

For me he's better than SS but not quite at Gino level.

Stamkos same deal today = 5 x 9.5
Gino same deal today = 5 x 12.5

Middle ground would have been 11.
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jul 10 @ 12:04 PM ET
I love that American sports radio is just two douches poopting on pro athletes and here in Canada everybody is on eggshells about potentially insulting somebody.
- AdamFrench


We need our own Steven A Smith.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jul 10 @ 12:06 PM ET
We need our own Steven A Smith.
- The Law

No
No we dont.
Fack the guy is an idiot
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jul 10 @ 12:07 PM ET
Yes, but before his bridge contract he did around 65 points

Not 94.

- Scabeh


Agreed. He's got amunition to get more ...but not double.

Another comp ......Patty Kane (good comp) got a 5 yr deal at the equivalent of 9 million today.

Marner doesn't get almost a milly more and sign for 2 less years.
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jul 10 @ 12:08 PM ET
Cool..that's 4 years ago.
Different time and different circumstances.
No relevance now.
Imo

- Fakepartofme


Ok, but precedent is how these things work. They don't just make poop up out of thin air.
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jul 10 @ 12:10 PM ET
yeah. a 3 year deal is 6ish for marner imo.

i really don't get it. unless marner has the balls to sign an offer sheet, he really has minimal leverage.

- Tumbleweed


I'm not arguing against MM or his value. I just think some of the "guesses" are way out of whack with anything that's ever been done in the NHL.

Maybe Marner establishes some new norm but it's never happened before.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jul 10 @ 12:11 PM ET
All those guys signed 5 yr deals and stayed.

For me he's better than SS but not quite at Gino level.

Stamkos same deal today = 5 x 9.5
Gino same deal today = 5 x 12.5

Middle ground would have been 11.

- The Law


Meh, 8 yr 11.5 would have been da best.

McD has just signed for 12.5x8 and he’s no McDavid.
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jul 10 @ 12:13 PM ET
No
No we dont.
Fack the guy is an idiot

- Fakepartofme


Lol ...gotta take him with a giant grain of salt. He's a hilarious character.

"As resolute as I feel about my convictions, if I'm wrong, I'm man enough to say I'm wrong, because I find it a rare occasion anyway."

Steven A. Smith ...
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jul 10 @ 12:14 PM ET
Im guessing 9.8 for 3 years.
Not a great deal in term...but it may be what we're stuck with

- Fakepartofme


no way can they give him that..or will they ..Aho just signed for a lot less

thats dumb
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jul 10 @ 12:14 PM ET
Cool..that's 4 years ago.
Different time and different circumstances.
No relevance now.
Imo

- Fakepartofme


Aho 2019
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jul 10 @ 12:18 PM ET
Ok, but precedent is how these things work. They don't just make poop up out of thin air.
- The Law


Great. Meier, lablanc and aho all signed team friendly deals. Precedence.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jul 10 @ 12:18 PM ET
All those guys signed 5 yr deals and stayed.

For me he's better than SS but not quite at Gino level.

Stamkos same deal today = 5 x 9.5
Gino same deal today = 5 x 12.5

Middle ground would have been 11.

- The Law


Not sure he’s better then SS either, he’s on Ovie level when it comes to the PP 1 timer.
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jul 10 @ 12:18 PM ET
Meh, 8 yr 11.5 would have been da best.

McD has just signed for 12.5x8 and he’s no McDavid.

- Garnie


I agree, problem was that conversation lasted this long ..."No".

Matthews obviously made the 5 yr term a 'must have'. A lot of the elite guys did in the past so Dubas didn't have a lot of leverage. I think McDavid and Ovechkin were the exceptions rather than the rule.
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jul 10 @ 12:21 PM ET
Great. Meier, lablanc and aho all signed team friendly deals. Precedence.
- Aaron_85


Again, context.

Meier at 6 for only RFA years. He didn't give up any UFA years. 6 was about right.

Labanc is (frank)ed ....not sure why that happened but I think we're all guessing that next summer he'll be given a big (frank)ing kiss by the Sharks.

Aho is NOT team friendly. 8.5 on a 5 yr puts him ahead of Getzlaf and Perry and almost on par with Kane and Toews on their post-ELC deals.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jul 10 @ 12:29 PM ET
I agree, problem was that conversation lasted this long ..."No".

Matthews obviously made the 5 yr term a 'must have'. A lot of the elite guys did in the past so Dubas didn't have a lot of leverage. I think McDavid and Ovechkin were the exceptions rather than the rule.

- The Law


Then Leafs should have said "no", he's a RFA not a UFA.

But I'm glad he's signed and I'm not the GM, so no sweat off my crack
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jul 10 @ 12:31 PM ET
Not sure he’s better then SS either, he’s on Ovie level when it comes to the PP 1 timer.
- Garnie


I think his numbers stack up well against SS. Malkin outpaced them both but his first 3 yrs were yrs 3-5 post draft as opposed to SS and AM entering the league right away. Tough to compare but I think Matthews side succeeded in arguing that he's closer to Malkin then he was Stamkos.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jul 10 @ 12:33 PM ET
Again, context.

Meier at 6 for only RFA years. He didn't give up any UFA years. 6 was about right.

Labanc is (frank)ed ....not sure why that happened but I think we're all guessing that next summer he'll be given a big (frank)ing kiss by the Sharks.

Aho is NOT team friendly. 8.5 on a 5 yr puts him ahead of Getzlaf and Perry and almost on par with Kane and Toews on their post-ELC deals.

- The Law

Aho is pretty team friendly. A PPG guy for the next 5 years at 8.5 is great in this climate.
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