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joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Jul 8 @ 8:55 PM ET
The Calgary deal would have been better fore Toronto... Jankowski only getting better and better.. guys a big body with skills... Would come in handy against heavy teams
- kaptaan


Not sure if the deal was better, only plus would have been Brodie being easier to extend. Barrie wanting 8 x 8 on his next deal means he is one and done in Toronto.

At that point you've traded Kadri for kerfoot. And that's a poop deal.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jul 8 @ 8:56 PM ET
Two words...
Rasmus Sandin.

- mykokes


He's a reason why when people talk about the D I just shake my head. These people conveniently forget there's a farm system and at some point you need to give them a real chance. If Muzzin walks, who cares? The team isn't built on free agents and trades.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jul 8 @ 8:57 PM ET
Not sure if the deal was better, only plus would have been Brodie being easier to extend. Barrie wanting 8 x 8 on his next deal means he is one and done in Toronto.

At that point you've traded Kadri for kerfoot. And that's a poop deal.

- joel878


What if Kerfoot scores 30 goals this year?
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Jul 8 @ 8:58 PM ET
He's a reason why when people talk about the D I just shake my head. These people conveniently forget there's a farm system and at some point you need to give them a real chance. If Muzzin walks, who cares? The team isn't built on free agents and trades.
- Aaron_85


Would be nice if they managed those assets instead of letting them walk for nothing year after year. Because that eventually equals a depleted farm system.
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Jul 8 @ 8:59 PM ET
What if Kerfoot scores 30 goals this year?
- Aaron_85


That's a pretty big what if. At that point we have 3 good centres and massive holes on the blueline. Also known as the same situation they were in to begin with.
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Jul 8 @ 9:00 PM ET
vlad jr with 29 dingers
- daeth

He’s pricing himself out of Toronto. He’ll walk as a FA so they might as well trade his ass before he demands too much. Greedy Vlad
mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
Joined: 11.09.2009

Jul 8 @ 9:05 PM ET
Would be nice if they managed those assets instead of letting them walk for nothing year after year. Because that eventually equals a depleted farm system.
- joel878

Let's at least see how this year goes before assuming anything. Especially when it comes to Barrie and a full season of muzzin. And if it makes you feel better about assett management....we got Tavares and all it cost was cap.
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 8 @ 9:08 PM ET
What if Kerfoot scores 30 goals this year?
- Aaron_85


Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jul 8 @ 9:09 PM ET
The Calgary deal would have been better fore Toronto... Jankowski only getting better and better.. guys a big body with skills... Would come in handy against heavy teams
- kaptaan


Response to trolling.
mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
Joined: 11.09.2009

Jul 8 @ 9:16 PM ET

- JohnFergusonJr

What if Reilly scores 20 goals to lead all dmen, and 70 points, oh wait he did that. And all you kept saying was trade him for a real top pairing dman. Just saying, who knows how this lineup shakes out ....or how the 45 point player in colorado mght fit or luck into goals and points in this lineup.

That said, he might be the next Kris versteeg too. Training camp is still like 2 months away...lets not laugh at other posters for asking what ifs.
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Jul 8 @ 9:20 PM ET
That's a pretty big what if. At that point we have 3 good centres and massive holes on the blueline. Also known as the same situation they were in to begin with.
- joel878


Say what?
mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
Joined: 11.09.2009

Jul 8 @ 9:21 PM ET
Say what?
- gravyface

Hes talking a year from now......after everyone leaves again.
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Jul 8 @ 9:22 PM ET
Hes talking a year from now......after everyone leaves again.
- mykokes


I like flexibility. Remember when we locked up Zaitsev long-term after a really good first year? How'd that work out?
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Jul 8 @ 9:22 PM ET
Not sure if the deal was better, only plus would have been Brodie being easier to extend. Barrie wanting 8 x 8 on his next deal means he is one and done in Toronto.

At that point you've traded Kadri for kerfoot. And that's a poop deal.

- joel878


Well yeah because he sucks much more. Do we want to sign cheaper, but inferior players?
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Jul 8 @ 9:24 PM ET
The Calgary deal would have been better fore Toronto... Jankowski only getting better and better.. guys a big body with skills... Would come in handy against heavy teams
- kaptaan


This just shows how people overrate size. Dude sucks. 37 points career high.
leafluver27
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.20.2012

Jul 8 @ 9:25 PM ET
apparently matthews doesn't want to play with kapanen. odd.
i say trade matthews marner and nylander and just be done with them all.

- Bob_Zuruncle

That came from that freak Simmons. How believable is he?
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 8 @ 9:27 PM ET
Well yeah because he sucks much more. Do we want to sign cheaper, but inferior players?
- RogerRoeper


Sucks in what way? Definitely doesn't suck more in his own zone. Giordano has labeled him the smartest player he's ever played with.

Considering the Leafs already have a guy who can put up points, maybe the guy beside him was best suited to be like TJ Brodie.

Also, Dubas explored acquiring Brodie first, so maybe that was his plan A for a reason.
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 8 @ 9:28 PM ET
This just shows how people overrate size. Dude sucks. 37 points career high.
- RogerRoeper


Or how Leafs fans overrate points from a defenseman.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jul 8 @ 9:45 PM ET
What if Reilly scores 20 goals to lead all dmen, and 70 points, oh wait he did that. And all you kept saying was trade him for a real top pairing dman. Just saying, who knows how this lineup shakes out ....or how the 45 point player in colorado mght fit or luck into goals and points in this lineup.

That said, he might be the next Kris versteeg too. Training camp is still like 2 months away...lets not laugh at other posters for asking what ifs.

- mykokes


I mentioned Z getting traded a few months ago and he responded to me with the laughing face.

I asked him to bet me and he went silent. Just smile and nod with that one.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Jul 8 @ 9:46 PM ET
Sucks in what way? Definitely doesn't suck more in his own zone. Giordano has labeled him the smartest player he's ever played with.

Considering the Leafs already have a guy who can put up points, maybe the guy beside him was best suited to be like TJ Brodie.

Also, Dubas explored acquiring Brodie first, so maybe that was his plan A for a reason.

- JohnFergusonJr


TJ Brodie is a left handed shot. He's not a fit at all. This team is set on the left side, it's the right we were horrible.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Jul 8 @ 9:47 PM ET
Or how Leafs fans overrate points from a defenseman.
- JohnFergusonJr


The best DMen seem to score a lot of points.
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Jul 8 @ 9:48 PM ET
Let's at least see how this year goes before assuming anything. Especially when it comes to Barrie and a full season of muzzin. And if it makes you feel better about assett management....we got Tavares and all it cost was cap.
- mykokes


Fair point.
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Jul 8 @ 9:51 PM ET
Well yeah because he sucks much more. Do we want to sign cheaper, but inferior players?
- RogerRoeper


I want players who we can fit under the cap and will play for the team. Trading appealing players on great contracts for 1 season isn't a good strategy.

That said, I do like Tyson Barrie, and like the other guy said, it's not really reasonable to throw stones at a season that hasn't started yet.

I hope dubas plays it well. Because it took what felt like 20 years to put a blueline together that's even this component. If it's blown apart after 1 season and we have nothing to show for it, that would suck.
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 8 @ 9:52 PM ET
TJ Brodie is a left handed shot. He's not a fit at all. This team is set on the left side, it's the right we were horrible.
- RogerRoeper


Plays the right side and plays it well so it shouldn't matter that much.

Should actually be a target as a UFA if he makes it because he'll be a lot cheaper than the offensive defenseman that can't play in their own zone.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Jul 8 @ 9:53 PM ET
I want players who we can fit under the cap and will play for the team. Trading appealing players on great contracts for 1 season isn't a good strategy.

That said, I do like Tyson Barrie, and like the other guy said, it's not really reasonable to throw stones at a season that hasn't started yet.

I hope dubas plays it well. Because it took what felt like 20 years to put a blueline together that's even this component. If it's blown apart after 1 season and we have nothing to show for it, that would suck.

- joel878


Because you are doing what everybody says but is wrong. He isn't a lock to leave at all! They have the $ to sign him.
They also got a younger, cheaper and a player who was close to Kadri last season with less TO in Kerfoot.

It's ridiculous. People are already saying goodbye to Barrie before he plays a game.
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