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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 8 @ 3:30 PM ET
So why are we complaining about Tanev if mostly everyone would be fine bringing Hags back? (not directed at you, just in general)
- YouMeAndDupuis9

His contract is significantly worse.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jul 8 @ 3:33 PM ET
So why are we complaining about Tanev if mostly everyone would be fine bringing Hags back? (not directed at you, just in general)
- YouMeAndDupuis9


Because it’s a terrible contract for a player we didn’t need.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Jul 8 @ 3:47 PM ET
Because it’s a terrible contract for a player we didn’t need.
- j.boyd919

This. I actually like Tanev fine, but they're in a situation where they should be dumping contracts like his, not adding them.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jul 8 @ 3:50 PM ET
This. I actually like Tanev fine, but they're in a situation where they should be dumping contracts like his, not adding them.
- Tojo.


Yeah I agree. It’s not the player I dislike. It’s the contract and the fact that they didn’t need him.
Doogs
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh , PA
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jul 8 @ 4:18 PM ET
What would a comparable be to Tanev?

I have heard a Young Kunitz. If true than I think he would be a player they very much needed. Speed, grit...Honey Badger type stuff.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jul 8 @ 4:24 PM ET
What would a comparable be to Tanev?

I have heard a Young Kunitz. If true than I think he would be a player they very much needed. Speed, grit...Honey Badger type stuff.

- Doogs


Tanev is 27 and will be almost 28 when the season starts. That ain’t young. Kunitz was banking 50-60 points. Tanev is banking 30. He’s like a Chris Kunitz that’s not nearly as good as Chris Kunitz.
Doogs
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh , PA
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jul 8 @ 4:31 PM ET
Tanev is 27 and will be almost 28 when the season starts. That ain’t young. Kunitz was banking 50-60 points. Tanev is banking 30. He’s like a Chris Kunitz that’s not nearly as good as Chris Kunitz.
- j.boyd919


And I can understand that it is all about points in this group, but the intangibles matter as well and this guy brings them.

I don’t like the term of this deal. Toooooo long. But how off is the $?
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Jul 8 @ 4:36 PM ET
And I can understand that it is all about points in this group, but the intangibles matter as well and this guy brings them.

I don’t like the term of this deal. Toooooo long. But how off is the $?

- Doogs


To me the problem was that this teams bottom 6 was already fine. Tanev neither makes it better or worse, but the 3.5 mil could have gone to a guy like Gusev or to a top 6 player. He seems like another Bryan Rust. If they trade Rust plus a pick/prospect for an upgraded winger, I’d be ok with the Tanev contract. I’d be really shocked if Rust, ZAR, or Hornqvist aren’t traded before September
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Jul 8 @ 4:42 PM ET
In other news, Kevin Labanc resigned with the sharks for a 1 year-$1 mil contract after having like 55 pts last year.
Doogs
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh , PA
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jul 8 @ 4:43 PM ET
To me the problem was that this teams bottom 6 was already fine. Tanev neither makes it better or worse, but the 3.5 mil could have gone to a guy like Gusev or to a top 6 player. He seems like another Bryan Rust. If they trade Rust plus a pick/prospect for an upgraded winger, I’d be ok with the Tanev contract. I’d be really shocked if Rust, ZAR, or Hornqvist aren’t traded before September
- drummer829


I get that they will be moving another contract and I also get that Tanev is more of a luxury add than a desperate need, but I hope that their next move addresses the D and not a top 6 forward.
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Jul 8 @ 4:44 PM ET
In other news, Kevin Labanc resigned with the sharks for a 1 year-$1 mil contract after having like 55 pts last year.
- drummer829

Good for them after spending $11.5M on Karlsson and losing Pavelski to Dallas for quite a low price ($7M).
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jul 8 @ 4:51 PM ET
I get that they will be moving another contract and I also get that Tanev is more of a luxury add than a desperate need, but I hope that their next move addresses the D and not a top 6 forward.
- Doogs


The problem is that they’re probably going to move Rust. Rust and Tanev very similar players and I’d rather have Rust based on contract. Had they not signed Tanev, they could have targeted a LD like Jordie Benn or something and actually fixed their D Corp.
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Jul 8 @ 5:06 PM ET
The problem is that they’re probably going to move Rust. Rust and Tanev very similar players and I’d rather have Rust based on contract. Had they not signed Tanev, they could have targeted a LD like Jordie Benn or something and actually fixed their D Corp.
- j.boyd919

And Jordie Benn went for a couple years for $2M each. Would’ve been a nice get.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jul 8 @ 5:09 PM ET
And Jordie Benn went for a couple years for $2M each. Would’ve been a nice get.
- Barnaby36


Dumo-Letang
Pettersson-Schultz
Benn-Guddy

is a nice improvement.
Doogs
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh , PA
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jul 8 @ 5:37 PM ET
Dumo-Letang
Pettersson-Schultz
Benn-Guddy

is a nice improvement.

- j.boyd919


Believe me, I understand where you are coming from. Finding a way to fix the D would be a priority moving forward.
WSCTeton17
Joined: 07.29.2013

Jul 8 @ 6:07 PM ET
In other news, Kevin Labanc resigned with the sharks for a 1 year-$1 mil contract after having like 55 pts last year.
- drummer829

His agent should be fired. That is brutal
WSCTeton17
Joined: 07.29.2013

Jul 8 @ 6:10 PM ET
And Jordie Benn went for a couple years for $2M each. Would’ve been a nice get.
- Barnaby36

I have a feeling that was a hometown discount for Benn. Just a humble BC boy who came home. I know those guys all hang out in the summer: Benn, Weber, Hamhuis, etc. My sister docs their boats 😂
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Jul 8 @ 6:42 PM ET
I have a feeling that was a hometown discount for Benn. Just a humble BC boy who came home. I know those guys all hang out in the summer: Benn, Weber, Hamhuis, etc. My sister docs their boats 😂
- WSCTeton17

Da hockeyyinsiderr
JLO961
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MTL, QC
Joined: 01.16.2013

Jul 8 @ 6:43 PM ET
The PP will be fine with Galchenyuk...possibly even better than with Kessel. There were surely criticisms of Galchenyuk's game in MTL, but he was awesome on the PP. He's got so much more to work with in PIT! I think he will have a career year and many more to come in PIT. This was a great trade for the Pens.
JLO961
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MTL, QC
Joined: 01.16.2013

Jul 8 @ 6:45 PM ET
Da hockeyyinsiderr
- Barnaby36


"My sister docks their boats!" ...too easy! Haha
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Jul 8 @ 6:56 PM ET
The PP will be fine with Galchenyuk...possibly even better than with Kessel. There were surely criticisms of Galchenyuk's game in MTL, but he was awesome on the PP. He's got so much more to work with in PIT! I think he will have a career year and many more to come in PIT. This was a great trade for the Pens.
- JLO961

Praise the Lord 🙌🏻

Hoping to keep him if he does well like a Simon/Guentzel type.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jul 8 @ 7:00 PM ET
We won’t trade Johnson. We won’t get Gusev. We’ll trade Rust for a 4th round pick and a defensive prospect that projects as a bottom pairing blue liner if he hits his ceiling.

There. Expectations tempered.

- Victoro311

It’s painful that this is all true
RoloTahmasee
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jul 8 @ 7:49 PM ET
In other news, Kevin Labanc resigned with the sharks for a 1 year-$1 mil contract after having like 55 pts last year.
- drummer829


Hope the league takes a look at this and makes sure there wasn't any wink, wink, nudge, nudge, get you back next year in this deal
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 8 @ 8:27 PM ET
Hope the league takes a look at this and makes sure there wasn't any wink, wink, nudge, nudge, get you back next year in this deal
- RoloTahmasee

He was a little screwed because his only other option was offer sheet because he wasn't arbitration eligible.
RoloTahmasee
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jul 8 @ 8:35 PM ET
He was a little screwed because his only other option was offer sheet because he wasn't arbitration eligible.
- Feds91Stammer


Something stinks...

If he re-ups on Jan 1 for 4 years 20 million or whatever, you know what was up.....
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