Would you guys rather have Tanev, Bonino, or Hagelin?

Two part question:
1.) answer irrespective of contracts
2.) with factoring in current contracts
- YouMeAndDupuis9

We’ve been struggling to replace Bones since we won our second straight cup with him...

I’d have signed Bones to the same contract he has and been done with it

both
- YouMeAndDupuis9

Probably this either way:
Hags>Tanev>Bonino

Hutton is gross

I’d rather keep Guds
- RoloTahmasee

Why?

So we need to move $6-7M to fit in Gusev? ($2M to be cap compliant + $4M for Gusev + a little buffer)

I'm okay to move Rust and JJ ...but if we cant move JJ how do we clear the space?

Rust and Gudbranson?
I'm not super interested in moving Bjugstad...

To try to move two players to clear space without a guarantee of getting Gusev is tricky business. I guess if we couldnt land Gusev, we could fall back and use the cap space to sign someone like Ferland/Dzingel or a cheap D-man like Del Zotto or Hutton for the 3rd pair.

I'm just looking for a realistic path to make this all happen. Teams with cap space are in an easy position to pull this off. Shero is probably already close to making it happen haha.
- YouMeAndDupuis9

Realistic path, trade Galchenyuk and Rust for futures, trade futures for Gusev.

Probably this either way:
Hags>Tanev>Bonino
- j.boyd919

Bonino>Hags>Tanev

Realistic path, trade Galchenyuk and Rust for futures, trade futures for Gusev.
- Tojo.

If you utilized Rust and Galchenyuk to clear JJ and Gudbranson off the books I’m with you. Then get Gusev and Gardiner.

Would you guys rather have Tanev, Bonino, or Hagelin?

Two part question:
1.) answer irrespective of contracts
2.) with factoring in current contracts
- YouMeAndDupuis9

1. Bonino - Mostly for the fact that he is a 25-30 point EV producer who would be perfect in a depth role. If Teddy can score 7 goals on the wing with Cullen, I think he could be a 15-20 goal wing with Bones

2. Hags - extremely strong defensive bottom six player on a perfect contract.

Tanev is arguably the worst player of the 3 and is without a doubt on the worst contract.

Realistic path, trade Galchenyuk and Rust for futures, trade futures for Gusev.
- Tojo.

Realistically I think Galchenyuk either gets the Guentzel contract or he walks next season. I don't think they have any intention of trading him without letting him play at least 40 games this season.

My thoughts exactly. The Avs, the Islanders, they all probably have offers on the table.

Also, I have zero interest in moving Bjugstad as well. I really like his game.
- burgh4life87

If you're Vegas, you shouldn't move Gusev within the division, maybe not even the conference, just in case he does live up to the hype.

JJ and Rust to Anaheim for a 5th and 7th
1st or 2021 2nd and insert prospect to Vegas for Gusev
Buyout Gudbranson
2x4m for Gusev
2x2m for Pettersson
2x950k for Blueger
2x950k for ZAR
2x2.5m for Hutton
- Feds91Stammer

Can we buyout Gudbranson? I'm still unclear on that. Personally, that would be a last resort to me because I think you can move him next year when he has only one year left without too much pain.

1. Bonino - Mostly for the fact that he is a 25-30 point EV producer who would be perfect in a depth role. If Teddy can score 7 goals on the wing with Cullen, I think he could be a 15-20 goal wing with Bones

2. Hags - extremely strong defensive bottom six player on a perfect contract.

Tanev is arguably the worst player of the 3 and is without a doubt on the worst contract.
- burgh4life87

I see all 3 as relatively equal impactful players and rank them on best to worst contract.

Did everyone else know Tanev got a modified no trade clause in his deal? Am I just finding this out now?
- burgh4life87

If that means Tanev has to be protected in the expansion draft, I'm going to be upset

We’ve been struggling to replace Bones since we won our second straight cup with him...

I’d have signed Bones to the same contract he has and been done with it
- RoloTahmasee

Bones wasnt that good in the second season or second run man. He didnt even play the last couple of games vs the Preds in the final and the Preds didnt get one goal in those games.

He had a few timely goals and everyone has warm fuzzy memories of them but over all he wasnt that good the 2nd year.

It was reported that MN no longer wants to move Zucker for a RW after getting Zucc
- WSCTeton17

They are also saying that they're fine playing Fiala at RW even though he really hasn't and they spent months saying they wanted to clear space for him at LW.

Zuccerello took away some urgency, plus Zucker now has some no trade protection, but I still think he can be had.

Can we buyout Gudbranson? I'm still unclear on that. Personally, that would be a last resort to me because I think you can move him next year when he has only one year left without too much pain.
- Tojo.

Only if they actually go to arbitration if I understand correctly. Once the teams last arbitration case is settled there is a 48 hour buyout window.

If you utilized Rust and Galchenyuk to clear JJ and Gudbranson off the books I’m with you. Then get Gusev and Gardiner.
- Feds91Stammer

I was just showing the easiest path to getting Gusev, not the best one. Any plan that moves JJ is better.

If that means Tanev has to be protected in the expansion draft, I'm going to be upset
- Tojo.

That’s NMC not NTC

Realistically I think Galchenyuk either gets the Guentzel contract or he walks next season. I don't think they have any intention of trading him without letting him play at least 40 games this season.
- burgh4life87

You're probably right, that's just what I'd do and Galchenyuk would be pretty easy to flip. I was just presenting a very realistic path to getting Gusev.

Moving JJ and Rust probably is there plan and clears out enough space, but finding a taker for JJ is no slam dunk.

1. Bonino - Mostly for the fact that he is a 25-30 point EV producer who would be perfect in a depth role. If Teddy can score 7 goals on the wing with Cullen, I think he could be a 15-20 goal wing with Bones

2. Hags - extremely strong defensive bottom six player on a perfect contract.

Tanev is arguably the worst player of the 3 and is without a doubt on the worst contract.
- burgh4life87

I think choosing Bonino first is more about nostalgia and hindsight than anything. Hindsight because we felt the pain of trying to find a replacement 3C. Nostalgia of him playing amazing with Kessel and Hagelin for a short period of time during the playoffs. He was always just kind of there in the regular season. And he's slow as dirt. He needs two really fast wings. Given current situation - he's not better than Bjugstad and not worth $4M as a fourth liner to me

Hagelin is tough. I think $2.75 is good value but he scored 5 goals last year....FIVE. and 4 more years on that deal until he is 34.

Tanev is more of a need for the current pens. even if he scores 10-15 goals he's producing more than Hagelin ...and producing close to Bonino while being much more of a spark plug. as many on here like to point out, the next 2-3 years is what matters, so the term doesnt bother me. $3.5M is better value to me than Bonino. He helps bring a speed identity and just as good on the PK.

I honestly think its a close call between Hags and Tanev i'd go Tanev>Hags>Bonino with everything factored in.

Bonino>Hags>Tanev
- Feds91Stammer

Yeah I guess that 3C position is more valuable than a middle six winger.

If that means Tanev has to be protected in the expansion draft, I'm going to be upset
- Tojo.

I don’t think so. I think he has a MNTC which I don’t think needs to be protected. I think only full NTC and NMCs need to be protected

https://www.nhl.com/news/...ghts-followed/c-302586918

I think choosing Bonino first is more about nostalgia and hindsight than anything. Hindsight because we felt the pain of trying to find a replacement 3C. Nostalgia of him playing amazing with Kessel and Hagelin for a short period of time during the playoffs. He was always just kind of there in the regular season. And he's slow as dirt. He needs two really fast wings. Given current situation - he's not better than Bjugstad and not worth $4M as a fourth liner to me

Hagelin is tough. I think $2.75 is good value but he scored 5 goals last year....FIVE. and 4 more years on that deal until he is 34.

Tanev is more of a need for the current pens. even if he scores 10-15 goals he's producing more than Hagelin ...and producing close to Bonino while being much more of a spark plug. as many on here like to point out, the next 2-3 years is what matters, so the term doesnt bother me. $3.5M is better value to me than Bonino. He helps bring a speed identity and just as good on the PK.

I honestly think its a close call between Hags and Tanev i'd go Tanev>Hags>Bonino with everything factored in.
- YouMeAndDupuis9

Tanev wasn’t a need for the Pens lol it was a waste of cap space.

Would you guys rather have Tanev, Bonino, or Hagelin?

Two part question:
1.) answer irrespective of contracts
2.) with factoring in current contracts
- YouMeAndDupuis9

For next year Hagelin

Factoring in age, which player would I most want, Tanev

When I factor in contract: none of the above.

Yeah I guess that 3C position is more valuable than a middle six winger.
- j.boyd919

I looked at it mainly as 2 years vs 4 years vs 6 years on their contracts. Otherwise I see them all as similar caliber players.

I looked at it mainly as 2 years vs 4 years vs 6 years on their contracts. Otherwise I see them all as similar caliber players.
- Feds91Stammer

So why are we complaining about Tanev if mostly everyone would be fine bringing Hags back? (not directed at you, just in general)