Teams are apparently concerned with his back issues.
- Feds91Stammer

Thanks. I haven't heard anything. So definitely holding out on the term. If someone snags him cheaply on a short deal I will be a little upset.

JJ and Rust to Anaheim for a 5th and 7th
1st or 2021 2nd and insert prospect to Vegas for Gusev
Buyout Gudbranson
2x4m for Gusev
2x2m for Pettersson
2x950k for Blueger
2x950k for ZAR
2x2.5m for Hutton

Sure, it’s a risk but it’s a risk I’m willing to take because I don’t care about those prospects and don’t expect them to make an impact before the window of Geno/Sid get smaller and less likely to make a deep run.

I’d prefer the risk of loading up the forwards with Gusev and shipping out JJ or Gudbranson as cap dumps, which would also be addition by subtraction. Moving JJ/Guddy+1st+Prospect for Gusev makes the team better for the next 2-3 years and that’s what I’m all for.
- j.boyd919

If we trade Gudbranson, a first, and a top prospect for Gusev and he turns out to be Conor Sheary (a finesse 40-50 point winger that Sullivan doesn't like) does that make us better? No, and I'm sure there will be many laughing at Rutherford for it.

If he turns out to be an 80 point guy and a PP catalyst, sure it makes us better.

But wouldn't it be a safer bet to trade some combo of those assets Rust/1st/top prospect to get Zucker?

Thought I heard someplace his camp was looking at 7.5+ mil and 6+years and teams want either less term or a bit lower hit.

I'm sure it won't be long till he signs and we all female dog about how JR could have got him.
- Guile

I have it waiting in the hopper already

JJ and Rust to Anaheim for a 5th and 7th
1st or 2021 2nd and insert prospect to Vegas for Gusev
Buyout Gudbranson
2x4m for Gusev
2x2m for Pettersson
2x950k for Blueger
2x950k for ZAR
2x2.5m for Hutton
- Feds91Stammer

I was with you until this

I was with you until this
- YouMeAndDupuis9

Why?

JJ and Rust to Anaheim for a 5th and 7th
1st or 2021 2nd and insert prospect to Vegas for Gusev
Buyout Gudbranson
2x4m for Gusev
2x2m for Pettersson
2x950k for Blueger
2x950k for ZAR
2x2.5m for Hutton
- Feds91Stammer

If we trade JJ and Rust... no need to buyout Gudds.

If we trade JJ and Rust... no need to buyout Gudds.
- Guile

To get Hutton aka an improvement and maintain cap flexibility for rentals at the deadline you need to.

Why?
- Feds91Stammer

The Pens would never do that.

And if traded, now you basically have to sign Hutton or Del Zotto or the like and they could be looking at $3M so its barely a savings and maybe a downgrade in player.

There was a rumor with JJ and LAK. I would think maybe if we retain maybe 10% and send them maybe ZAR and a 1st they would send us a late pick in return

With DJ smith coaching in OTT it opens up the possibility of him valuing a guy like JJ but he already got Zaitsev and I think Hainsey, right? They have so many good young defenders. Unless the price is right I think they’ll let the kids play

If we trade Gudbranson, a first, and a top prospect for Gusev and he turns out to be Conor Sheary (a finesse 40-50 point winger that Sullivan doesn't like) does that make us better? No, and I'm sure there will be many laughing at Rutherford for it.

If he turns out to be an 80 point guy and a PP catalyst, sure it makes us better.

But wouldn't it be a safer bet to trade some combo of those assets Rust/1st/top prospect to get Zucker?
- YouMeAndDupuis9

Yes it does because Gudbranson sucks.

The Pens would never do that.

And if traded, now you basically have to sign Hutton or Del Zotto or the like and they could be looking at $3M so its barely a savings and maybe a downgrade in player.
- YouMeAndDupuis9

Hutton > Gudbranson all day. Guddy sucks.

Did everyone else know Tanev got a modified no trade clause in his deal? Am I just finding this out now?

Did everyone else know Tanev got a modified no trade clause in his deal? Am I just finding this out now?
- burgh4life87

His deal is enough of a NTC on its own

Contrary to that 20 game sample you guys saw Gudbranson is not good at all.

His deal is enough of a NTC on its own
- Feds91Stammer

hahaha

His deal is enough of a NTC on its own
- Feds91Stammer

Contractually it is a 10 team no trade list.

In reality it's a 31 team no trade list.

If we trade Gudbranson, a first, and a top prospect for Gusev and he turns out to be Conor Sheary (a finesse 40-50 point winger that Sullivan doesn't like) does that make us better? No, and I'm sure there will be many laughing at Rutherford for it.

If he turns out to be an 80 point guy and a PP catalyst, sure it makes us better.

But wouldn't it be a safer bet to trade some combo of those assets Rust/1st/top prospect to get Zucker?
- YouMeAndDupuis9

It was reported that MN no longer wants to move Zucker for a RW after getting Zucc

Contractually it is a 10 team no trade list.

In reality it's a 31 team no trade list.
- burgh4life87

Would you guys rather have Tanev, Bonino, or Hagelin?

Two part question:
1.) answer irrespective of contracts
2.) with factoring in current contracts

Contrary to that 20 game sample you guys saw Gudbranson is not good at all.
- Feds91Stammer

But at least I saw good things....a stretch of great games and good smart sound decisions and plays. I cant say Ive ever seen that from JJ...and JJ had much more time in a Pens jersey last year.

So when it comes to sh!t d-men I'll take Gud over JJ, even if he is a bit more expensive.

It was reported that MN no longer wants to move Zucker for a RW after getting Zucc
- WSCTeton17

Rust can play LW....Rust+1st+Prospect? MINN needs picks and prospects..They're terrible.

Would you guys rather have Tanev, Bonino, or Hagelin?
- YouMeAndDupuis9

Are we talking with their current contracts or just as players in general?

To get Hutton aka an improvement and maintain cap flexibility for rentals at the deadline you need to.
- Feds91Stammer

Hutton is gross

I’d rather keep Guds

Are we talking with their current contracts or just as players in general?
- j.boyd919

both

But at least I saw good things....a stretch of great games and good smart sound decisions and plays. I cant say Ive ever seen that from JJ...and JJ had much more time in a Pens jersey last year.

So when it comes to sh!t d-men I'll take Gud over JJ, even if he is a bit more expensive.
- MattStrat

Well I got rid of both of them for you.