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RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Jul 8 @ 11:06 AM ET
I know it was sooooo terrible that an "Appreciation Day" was needed to lift up his spirits

But maybe you're right, the NY fanbase should have just threatened him, his wife and family, yeah def better off, oh btw its almost nap time, u getting ready??

- Hell_Bent


It's funny I saw Leaf fans ripped for that more than Islander fans for what they did to Tavares
Flexingtheshaft
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 06.21.2015

Jul 8 @ 11:07 AM ET
Which if true might mean he might really wants out of Toronto. If not why wouldn't he agree to a 7 year deal? only way that makes sens is he is worried Toronto matches it and then he is stuck as second fiddle to Matthews/JT. I can't think of another reason for him to want only 3 years if you are talking about that much money. Does he think the cap is going to go up that much more? .. just curious why everyone thinks he would ask for that short of term.
- niteislander


It's actually really simple he wants to get keep getting paid.
Marner is 22 so a 7 year deal at 11 = 77 mill ends when he is 29

But 3 year deal at 12 mill (36mil)ends at 25 then he can get 7 years at what ever the salary is up to for star players..maybe in 2023-2024 15 mill for him wont be out of the question due to the salary cap going up

he becomes a UFA at 25-26 he can cash in on again at 15 mil a year for 7 =105 mill and hes still is a ufa again at 32-33 years old


Its smart for him, look at guys like Crosby and ovi who's contracts dont seem big anymore with the cap going up. Hes just betting on himself. If he has a few bad years it backfires completely
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Jul 8 @ 11:33 AM ET
Oh boy
One day, try to think without the Leafs saltiness, and then post about something.

- Aetherial


What saltiness? I have no feelings towards the leafs whatsoever. When you sign an offersheet, you sign knowing you are possibly leaving. Is that really different from someone who walks away? Raptors example is different because the won a championship. If Marner signs and leaves via offersheet, leaf fans will be upset. It will be just like Tavares leaving
Hell_Bent
New York Islanders
Location: Hell's Kitchen, NY
Joined: 05.06.2019

Jul 8 @ 11:38 AM ET
What saltiness? I have no feelings towards the leafs whatsoever. When you sign an offersheet, you sign knowing you are possibly leaving. Is that really different from someone who walks away? Raptors example is different because the won a championship. If Marner signs and leaves via offersheet, leaf fans will be upset. It will be just like Tavares leaving
- xShoot4WarAmpsx



Oh they already have started saying match Marner offer sheet then trade is butt off after, so dont let them try to deny anything, they seem to forget what most say
Def 1 comical fanbase
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 8 @ 11:52 AM ET
The fact that Lou hasn't ponied up this asking price yet with a big gaping hole at LW is a bit concerning, if this is true:

JimmyP
New York Islanders
Location: Snow has melted!
Joined: 02.12.2011

Jul 8 @ 11:56 AM ET
The fact that Lou hasn't ponied up this asking price yet with a big gaping hole at LW is a bit concerning, if this is true:


- eichiefs9


Has he said how much he's asking for?
Flexingtheshaft
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 06.21.2015

Jul 8 @ 11:58 AM ET
The fact that Lou hasn't ponied up this asking price yet with a big gaping hole at LW is a bit concerning, if this is true:


- eichiefs9


If it were that cheap and that easy why hasn't any team traded for him yet?

I think the athletic has creditable sources, but I think who ever is giving the source info is wrong.

Or his rfa contract demands are insane
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 8 @ 12:02 PM ET
Has he said how much he's asking for?
- JimmyP


If it were that cheap and that easy why hasn't any team traded for him yet?

I think the athletic has creditable sources, but I think who ever is giving the source info is wrong.

Or his rfa contract demands are insane

- Flexingtheshaft

There are reports that he's looking for about $3.5M-$4M AAV on a two year deal. So something in the neighborhood of 2 years, $7M-$8M dollars

My guess as to why no one has acquired him yet: GM's want him to commit to more term. Purely my own speculation though.

If that contract ask is legitimate, it's more than fair for a guy who was arguably the best player in the world not playing in the NHL
JimmyP
New York Islanders
Location: Snow has melted!
Joined: 02.12.2011

Jul 8 @ 12:08 PM ET
There are reports that he's looking for about $3.5M-$4M AAV on a two year deal. So something in the neighborhood of 2 years, $7M-$8M dollars

My guess as to why no one has acquired him yet: GM's want him to commit to more term. Purely my own speculation though.

If that contract ask is legitimate, it's more than fair for a guy who was arguably the best player in the world not playing in the NHL

- eichiefs9


That makes sense. Why trade for a guy that could walk in 2 years.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 8 @ 12:14 PM ET
Does Matt Martin count
- Hell_Bent

🤣

No. Imagine the fits that 2.5 million would be causing Dubas right now.
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Jul 8 @ 12:17 PM ET
Basketball is a different sport. 1 star can't win it all in NHL.
The difference is, Toronto fans won't be idiots and throw things at Leonard when he returns and call him names.

- RogerRoeper


mainly b/c he won you the championship your city hasn't seen since the 90's in baseball. ... and some will still boo the guy.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 8 @ 12:19 PM ET
That makes sense. Why trade for a guy that could walk in 2 years.
- JimmyP

I don't really disagree with you, but the reality is that they have to do something. They can't go into the season with the same roster and expect better results. Beauvillier can't yet be relied upon to be the regular 2LW. They have to do something. Giving up a 2nd an a low-level prospect shouldn't be an overly-big risk given what Gusev could be.
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Jul 8 @ 12:20 PM ET
That was disgraceful what happened with Tavares. Yes, I am going there. Nerds behind a keyboard are different than actually throing things at a guy.
- RogerRoeper


YOu have the most classless fan base on the planet. You make Eagles' fans look good.... We booed Tavares. You threatened to kill players and their wives. STFU and go to your own boards you troll.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 8 @ 12:22 PM ET
YOu have the most classless fan base on the planet. You make Eagles' fans look good.... We booed Tavares. You threatened to kill players and their wives. STFU and go to your own boards you troll.
- niteislander

Please stop
Flexingtheshaft
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 06.21.2015

Jul 8 @ 12:22 PM ET
I don't really disagree with you, but the reality is that they have to do something. They can't go into the season with the same roster and expect better results. Beauvillier can't yet be relied upon to be the regular 2LW. They have to do something. Giving up a 2nd an a low-level prospect shouldn't be an overly-big risk given what Gusev could be.
- eichiefs9


Look for a good player with alot of term left or trade for A RFA who's controllable
JimmyP
New York Islanders
Location: Snow has melted!
Joined: 02.12.2011

Jul 8 @ 12:23 PM ET
I don't really disagree with you, but the reality is that they have to do something. They can't go into the season with the same roster and expect better results. Beauvillier can't yet be relied upon to be the regular 2LW. They have to do something. Giving up a 2nd an a low-level prospect shouldn't be an overly-big risk given what Gusev could be.
- eichiefs9


Not really. They could be looking at this a throw away year once they missed out on Panarin. Maybe they wait for Belmont and for some help to come up from Bridgeport.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 8 @ 12:24 PM ET
That was disgraceful what happened with Tavares. Yes, I am going there. Nerds behind a keyboard are different than actually throing things at a guy.
- RogerRoeper

So two rubber snakes landing five feet away from him has gotten you this upset? Wow, you must have a rough life I would be literally embarrassed to tell people that upset me.
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Jul 8 @ 12:24 PM ET
It's funny I saw Leaf fans ripped for that more than Islander fans for what they did to Tavares
- RogerRoeper


LOL.. you guys threw a parade for JT and had a Tavares day b/c of all the coverage of him getting booed. That was the most pathetic thing I have ever seen. .... ooooh you poor millioinaire... you got booed when you went back to the Island. here is a key to the city and a parade. lol
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 8 @ 12:24 PM ET
Not really. They could be looking at this a throw away year once they missed out on Panarin. Maybe they wait for Belmont and for some help to come up from Bridgeport.
- JimmyP

I have a very hard time seeing Lou as the type of guy to throw away a season
Flexingtheshaft
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 06.21.2015

Jul 8 @ 12:24 PM ET
There are reports that he's looking for about $3.5M-$4M AAV on a two year deal. So something in the neighborhood of 2 years, $7M-$8M dollars

My guess as to why no one has acquired him yet: GM's want him to commit to more term. Purely my own speculation though.

If that contract ask is legitimate, it's more than fair for a guy who was arguably the best player in the world not playing in the NHL

- eichiefs9


If he as good as they say after 2 years hes going to want to test ufa and get a big pay day...
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Jul 8 @ 12:25 PM ET
There are reports that he's looking for about $3.5M-$4M AAV on a two year deal. So something in the neighborhood of 2 years, $7M-$8M dollars

My guess as to why no one has acquired him yet: GM's want him to commit to more term. Purely my own speculation though.

If that contract ask is legitimate, it's more than fair for a guy who was arguably the best player in the world not playing in the NHL

- eichiefs9

You know he's listed as 5'9" and 154 lbs., right? He may be able to pile up some points in the KHL, but I question whether his size wouldn't hinder him in the NHL.
http://www.hockeydb.com/i...s/pdisplay.php?pid=133881
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Jul 8 @ 12:25 PM ET
https://nationalpost.com/...ss-to-pittsburgh-penguins comical... you guys Boo everyone who leaves.
You also Boo people still on your team but somehow the Tavares situation was HORRIBLE.. lol.

Can't wait till you throw your JT jersey on the ice in disgust in year 3 of his contract with zero cups.
Flexingtheshaft
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 06.21.2015

Jul 8 @ 12:28 PM ET
You know he's listed as 5'9" and 154 lbs., right? He may be able to pile up some points in the KHL, but I question whether his size wouldn't hinder him in the NHL.
http://www.hockeydb.com/i...s/pdisplay.php?pid=133881

- JohnScammo


*takes one hit from parayko*
*goes back to khl*
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 8 @ 12:30 PM ET
If he as good as they say after 2 years hes going to want to test ufa and get a big pay day...
- Flexingtheshaft

Well then they'd have the ability to trade him before the 2nd year runs out. If he is "that good" then they'll surely recoup more than they paid for him. It's a no brainer, to me, if they aren't stupid and keep him around until July 1st only to lose him for nothing.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 8 @ 12:31 PM ET
You know he's listed as 5'9" and 154 lbs., right? He may be able to pile up some points in the KHL, but I question whether his size wouldn't hinder him in the NHL.
http://www.hockeydb.com/i...s/pdisplay.php?pid=133881

- JohnScammo

Seems to be a bit of discrepancy on his size:

https://www.eliteprospect...player/75169/nikita-gusev

and I'm not particularly concerned about it, no
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