LE gets talked about daily in here, you're telling me that JB gets equal praise for his good moves as he does hate for his bad moves?


Please.
- Nucker101

No, he does not get equal praise because his work is not balanced. More bad then good.

Now, I ain’t in here every day like some because I find the discussions repetitive, so...

every time LE gets brought up, I'm gonna start listing off stats about EP non-stop.

If they never get tired of complaining about LE, I'm sure they'll never get tired of seeing EP's stat line and rookie records being thrown in their faces. Have it both ways
- Nucker101

Disrupting the piling on? 😂👍

Disrupting the piling on? 😂👍
- Nighthawk

I hope he does. I dare him, I double-dare him.

No, he does not get equal praise because his work is not balanced. More bad then good.

Now, I ain’t in here every day like some because I find the discussions repetitive, so...
- bloatedmosquito

What would you say are the worst moves that have damaged the team development?

Are the Canucks in better shape now then when he took over?

What would you say are the worst moves that have damaged the team development?

Are the Canucks in better shape now then when he took over?
- NuckUp

His choices of UFAs and pro players and determining their value whether through contact or trade.

And for your question on the team being better since he took over, the team’s prospect pool is definitely better. The on ice performance is more enjoyable to watch now, but it’s been what 5+ years since he took the helm and it’s been a bumpy ride.

LE gets talked about daily in here, you're telling me that JB gets equal praise for his good moves as he does hate for his bad moves?


Please.
- Nucker101

We all agree on EP and Boeser, you just want a circle jerk?

What would you say are the worst moves that have damaged the team development?

Are the Canucks in better shape now then when he took over?
- NuckUp

Of course they are in better shape.....they've picked in the top 10 5 years our of 6.

When the team publically declared they were going to quickly retool and then proceeded to be the worst team in the league over 3 years, is that a success or failure?

Dude gets little to no credit for Petterson, Boeser, Pearson, Baertschi, Leivo, Gaudette, Demko, Stecher, Madden and Woo but plenty of hate for Eriksson, Sutter, Gudbranson, Virtanen and Juolevi

It's hilarious.
- Nucker101

OJ and JV may yet redeem long term.

His wife is an idiot actually lol
- Codes1087

back up

We all agree on EP and Boeser, you just want a circle jerk?
- golfingsince

and we all agree that LE was a mistake, you just wanna keep beating that dead horse?

His choices of UFAs and pro players and determining their value whether through contact or trade.

And for your question on the team being better since he took over, the team’s prospect pool is definitely better. The on ice performance is more enjoyable to watch now, but it’s been what 5+ years since he took the helm and it’s been a bumpy ride.
- bloatedmosquito

It took 12yrs to get to the SCF then another 12yrs then another 17yrs. Only at 8yrs now.

How many teams have done less?
How many done more?

and we all agree that LE was a mistake, you just wanna keep beating that dead horse?
- Nucker101

nope, utica or buyout

Of course they are in better shape.....they've picked in the top 10 5 years our of 6.

When the team publically declared they were going to quickly retool and then proceeded to be the worst team in the league over 3 years, is that a success or failure?
- belcherbd

Picked 0 in top 3 in 19yrs.
What type of success or failure is that?

Just read a really dumb article on the Athletic about UFA signings generally being overpaid. The author, Dom Luszczyszyn, who for the most part puts out decent articles really lost the plot.

He references that 69% of UFA deals signed end up with a traded or bought out player which is interesting. But then follows up that the appropriate value for Myers would of been 3.1M over 5 years and that he is expected to only contribute 6 wins over his contract....

I'm all for advanced stats, but this makes no sense at all. First of all there is no consideration taken for the UFA market, Myers at 6M might be too rich but it is the reality of the market for a Defensman in 2019. Who else was available? What was the collective cap space available of interested teams?

Furthermore 6 wins over 5 years? He model must be seriously (frank)ed to come up with that number.

Myers replacing Pouliot/Biega might contribute 6 wins in next season let alone over 5 years.

Benning has proven to be generally incompetent the past 5 years but its hilarious to see some people bending over backwards to try and continue the #narrative.
- belcherbd

His money is probably bang on, but i'm pretty sure he'll produce a few extra wins for this team probably even in the first two years of the deal.

and we all agree that LE was a mistake, you just wanna keep beating that dead horse?
- Nucker101

But then the pom-pomers ask us whiners to justify our hate. So we mention LE and his ilk and the box of Kleenex goes round and round.

back up



- VanHockeyGuy

i remember them being in some hot water over some sh*t they posted on social media. I scoped up what was going on, and you literally feel dumber when you read there stuff. They are incredibly stupid people.

What would you say are the worst moves that have damaged the team development?

Are the Canucks in better shape now then when he took over?
- NuckUp

Opera Tuna doing the anthem.
Hands down in better shape.

i remember them being in some hot water over some sh*t they posted on social media. I scoped up what was going on, and you literally feel dumber when you read there stuff. They are incredibly stupid people.
- Codes1087

a picture speaks a thousand words

Of course they are in better shape.....they've picked in the top 10 5 years our of 6.

When the team publically declared they were going to quickly retool and then proceeded to be the worst team in the league over 3 years, is that a success or failure?
- belcherbd

Yes on the compete factor but that failure seems to have allowed for good choices on the rebuild. The confusing thing here is JB trying to do two things at once. That's why the compete moves frustrate.

JB's reasoning is you need a chance to compete in order to develop the players forming the new core. I hope it pays off because futility can sour team culture.

But then the pom-pomers ask us whiners to justify our hate. So we mention LE and his ilk and the box of Kleenex goes round and round.
- bloatedmosquito

Did LE stop us from being a PO team or cup winner all by himself?
What other 6m ilk are you referring to?

It took 12yrs to get to the SCF then another 12yrs then another 17yrs. Only at 8yrs now.

How many teams have done less?
How many done more?
- Nighthawk

Don't use the canuck's historical "success" as your benchmark. Don't accept mediocrity.

Google can help you with the rest.

Yes on the compete factor but that failure seems to have allowed for good choices on the rebuild. The confusing thing here is JB trying to do two things at once. That's why the compete moves frustrate.

JB's reasoning is you need a chance to compete in order to develop the players forming the new core. I hope it pays off because futility can sour team culture.
- NuckUp

Yes on the compete factor but that failure seems to have allowed for good choices on the rebuild. The confusing thing here is JB trying to do two things at once. That's why the compete moves frustrate.

JB's reasoning is you need a chance to compete in order to develop the players forming the new core. I hope it pays off because futility can sour team culture.
- NuckUp

JB was not alone on the retool & cannot all be put on him. Thats is looking for a scape goat.

Don't use the canuck's historical "success" as your benchmark. Don't accept mediocrity.

Google can help you with the rest.
- bloatedmosquito

Just trying to identify what is acceptable as success & what is not. Mediocrity makes pessimists happy. Successful seasons makes me happy. Some think only a cup is success.