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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 8 @ 8:00 AM ET
pretty comprehensive response....
- wcorvette


Well, I wanted to throw in something about Giroux being awful, but that's more of a 2Real-specific response.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Jul 8 @ 8:03 AM ET
Well, I wanted to throw in something about Giroux being awful, but that's more of a 2Real-specific response.
- jmatchett383



we can get to that in the next BLOG TITLED; PLEASE FIX THE BIGGEST MISTAKE IN FRANCHISE HISTORY
peesinwind
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: columbia, MD
Joined: 06.27.2015

Jul 8 @ 8:03 AM ET
here have fun with this one, hoping this can bring team negative and team postiive together for a day


Hayes can help. He has done a lot of his damage at even strength with 72 such goals, more than guys like Adam Henrique (71 — $5.825 million AAV), Evgeny Kuznetsov (70 — $7.8 million AAV) and Ryan O'Reilly (67 — $7.5 million AAV) since 2014-15. Hayes' 179 even-strength points are more than guys like Nazem Kadri (173), Tomas Hertl (172), Ryan Nugent-Hopkins (172) and Anders Lee (170) over the past five seasons.

and this

The Flyers will need Hayes to do a lot. After all, they did a lot to get him because of that.

- wcorvette


He will make this team better. The Flyers needed a 2C and he filled that hole. Not many options to fill that hole. Getting a 2C is not easy in this league. They were lucky to be in the running to get one.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 8 @ 8:22 AM ET
He will make this team better. The Flyers needed a 2C and he filled that hole. Not many options to fill that hole. Getting a 2C is not easy in this league. They were lucky to be in the running to get one.
- peesinwind

Yup. I don’t love the length of the deal, far from it in fact. However, right now, adding Kevin Hayes makes the Flyers a better team. This is indisputable.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 8 @ 8:40 AM ET
we can get to that in the next BLOG TITLED; PLEASE FIX THE BIGGEST MISTAKE IN FRANCHISE HISTORY
- wcorvette


Going off the board to draft Fraud Giroux over Cory Emmerton should be right at the top.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Jul 8 @ 9:01 AM ET
Going off the board to draft Fraud Giroux over Cory Emmerton should be right at the top.
- jmatchett383


Cory who?


jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 8 @ 9:09 AM ET
Cory who?
- NC Flyers Fan


The #10 ranked N.A. skater in 2006. Fell to the lucky Red Wings.

Giroux was ranked 38th.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Jul 8 @ 9:22 AM ET
The #10 ranked N.A. skater in 2006. Fell to the lucky Red Wings.

Giroux was ranked 38th.

- jmatchett383


Absolute steal! I didn’t pay as much attention to prospects back then but oh man, it felt like destiny when Clarke forgot Giroux’s name. The last time anyone forgets his name. A career no Flyers fan will forget.
daryl stanley
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.12.2019

Jul 8 @ 9:37 AM ET
who is the biggest 1st round pick bust they flyers have ever selected?
sjk540
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hoboken, NJ
Joined: 01.28.2016

Jul 8 @ 9:43 AM ET
who is the biggest 1st round pick bust they flyers have ever selected?
- daryl stanley


Jeff Woywitka
iroc4me2
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Spring Mount, PA
Joined: 06.17.2007

Jul 8 @ 9:56 AM ET
who is the biggest 1st round pick bust they flyers have ever selected?
- daryl stanley


Downie?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 8 @ 9:57 AM ET
Jeff Woywitka
- sjk540


Woywitka actually had a decent career, just not with the Flyers. The worst is probably Ryan Sittler, but that had nothing to do with his skill, it was injuries; he never played 1 game in the NHL. Same for Glen Seabrooke, played in just 19 games before suffering a career-ender. at just 21.

If we're eliminating everything pre-Cup days, it's probably between Danny Lucas, Mike Stothers, and Steve Smith. I think Sam Morin already has the 3 of them beat.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 8 @ 9:58 AM ET
who is the biggest 1st round pick bust they flyers have ever selected?
- daryl stanley


Sam Morin, probably, since his draft year was so deep.

Sittler never played an NHL game, I guess he's up there too.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jul 8 @ 10:06 AM ET
Bill, how is Farabee slide rule eligible in the AHL? I thought you only don’t burn a year if you’re in juniors or overseas but the AHL would start your entry level contract like how Sanheim completed his 3 years but only 2 with the Flyers.


18 and 19-year old seasons in the AHL can slide. They also don't count as pro seasons for expansion draft purposes. That is why Hagg was exempt in 2017 despite having completed three AHL seasons.

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/robert-hagg
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jul 8 @ 10:07 AM ET
He will make this team better. The Flyers needed a 2C and he filled that hole. Not many options to fill that hole. Getting a 2C is not easy in this league. They were lucky to be in the running to get one.
- peesinwind

It would have been easy for us but we decided to be picky. I still believe Giroux, Couturier and Patrick are three great centers on any team in the league.
daryl stanley
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.12.2019

Jul 8 @ 10:07 AM ET
Sam Morin, probably, since his draft year was so deep.

Sittler never played an NHL game, I guess he's up there too.

- Tomahawk

would have to be sittler I believe.

that draft set them back as 2 1st rd bust just when they added lindros. They couldn't even have been traded for something useful. Though I believe they screwed up Bowens development by switching him back and forth to wing. Should have left him at D.

That whole 92 draft was pitiful.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jul 8 @ 10:08 AM ET
I would like to see NAK get a real shot but I just don't see it. He played 9 NHL games last year. I believe all 9 were under Hex/Hak reign. After Fletcher took over he got in no games. He couldn't break the lineup over Bailey and Knight. Maybe he'll get the 13/14th forward spot.
- FlyerFan16


He was injured a couple of times after Jan 1st, and I wouldn't read too much into Bailey being used as the extra forward on the roster over Aube-Kubel considering NAK got a QO and they just let Bailey walk.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jul 8 @ 10:09 AM ET
Downie?
- iroc4me2

I liked what Steve Downie has offered then Scott Laughton. It’s been a long road for Laughton.
sjk540
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hoboken, NJ
Joined: 01.28.2016

Jul 8 @ 10:12 AM ET
would have to be sittler I believe.

that draft set them back as 2 1st rd bust just when they added lindros. They couldn't even have been traded for something useful. Though I believe they screwed up Bowens development by switching him back and forth to wing. Should have left him at D.

That whole 92 draft was pitiful.

- daryl stanley


yeah that was way before my time, i was only 6, and though I know the name Sittler and how big of a bust was, doesn't come to mind right away. It also is a shame every time you go back and looks at those lists, you see Forsberg, and know that we drafted correctly but didn't get to enjoy his entire career, sans 100 games.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jul 8 @ 10:12 AM ET
It would have been easy for us but we decided to be picky. I still believe Giroux, Couturier and Patrick are three great centers on any team in the league.
- SuperSchennBros


Only one of them has had a great season playing at center in the past three years.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 8 @ 10:13 AM ET
who is the biggest 1st round pick bust they flyers have ever selected?
- daryl stanley

Take your pick:
Bob Currier
Claude Boivin
Ryan Sittler
Maxime Ouellette
Jason Bowen
daryl stanley
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.12.2019

Jul 8 @ 10:13 AM ET
It would have been easy for us but we decided to be picky. I still believe Giroux, Couturier and Patrick are three great centers on any team in the league.
- SuperSchennBros

how on earth at this point and time can you say Patrick is a great center?
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jul 8 @ 10:13 AM ET
I liked what Steve Downie has offered then Scott Laughton. It’s been a long road for Laughton.
- SuperSchennBros


And a short road for Downie who was out of the league aged 29.
iroc4me2
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Spring Mount, PA
Joined: 06.17.2007

Jul 8 @ 10:13 AM ET
I liked what Steve Downie has offered then Scott Laughton. It’s been a long road for Laughton.
- SuperSchennBros


I just looked at his stats, he had a 22 goal campaign with Tampa, I didn't know that. I guess he's just the biggest douche we've drafted in the first round
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jul 8 @ 10:15 AM ET
I just looked at his stats, he had a 22 goal campaign with Tampa, I didn't know that. I guess he's just the biggest douche we've drafted in the first round
- iroc4me2


Being an bumhole doesn’t help but he was underratedly skilled. No matter what Feanor believes.
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