I don't think they need to add a G for the future

I think they need 2 D, one on each side, an entire top pairing really

After Weber is done playing those 3-4 good years he has left and retires, the cap hit goes back to Nashville, not an issue

I get it, he got them into the original mess to begin with, he should have been fired then, but why now? He sold his pitch to Molson about a retool, cant say for sure about any timeline he gave him, but I would bet that hes ahead of schedule, so you have done better than we anticipated and you are fired?
- obie

Also...Petry is likely gone in a year or two so it's almost an entire top 4 D needed depending on what Mete ends up being.

Do we know Primeau will be a real #1 G? They're really hard to project and develop. Looks great but as of today I'm not betting my retirement on it. Prospects are full of potential which is great but until potential turns into results it's just another way of saying you haven't done poop yet.

For what it's worth I actually put more blame on Molson than MB as I'd imagine a lot of the decisions over the years involved Molson and he is the one who hasn't had the fortitude to move MB out...but saying I blame the owner more than the GM doesn't produce any more encouragement...rather a lot more discouragement

Yes you can trade a player after he's filled for arbitration (re:Taylor Beck/Jamie Devane trade) and the player can be traded after the result of the hearing.
- Habsway

Thank you sir!

What do you think Brandon, if the Habs miss the playoffs, you fire Bergevin?
- obie

Honestly, I think Bergevin has the full support of Molson. The way they have retooled the roster and prospects over the last couple seasons is trending the right way. They turned a decade + roster need into a upcoming strength (Center) and I think Molson def had a say in MB going hard at a young star player to add to the core.

I don't think Bergy is on the hot seat at all really with the moves and drafts he's had the last couple years. I know many want him gone as if that will magically bring the Habs the ability to fleece teams for great players and draft all studs all the time, but that's unrealistic. Also consider they would likely replace him from within anyways so it's going to be a similar mindset taking over anyways.

Just my thoughts on that, no inside info to justify it or anything

I think I saw Provorov mentioned as well in these pages. I was tweeting with some ppl about that the other day. I would be 110% on board with OS'ing Provorov or Werenski.

Honestly, I think Bergevin has the full support of Molson. The way they have retooled the roster and prospects over the last couple seasons is trending the right way. They turned a decade + roster need into a upcoming strength (Center) and I think Molson def had a say in MB going hard at a young star player to add to the core.

I don't think Bergy is on the hot seat at all really with the moves and drafts he's had the last couple years. I know many want him gone as if that will magically bring the Habs the ability to fleece teams for great players and draft all studs all the time, but that's unrealistic. Also consider they would likely replace him from within anyways so it's going to be a similar mindset taking over anyways.

Just my thoughts on that, no inside info to justify it or anything
- Brandon Smillie

Ugh...this sums up my blaming Molson more than MB and the fact that it doesn't make it any better. How somebody can fail so often and so hard and still be supported is nonsensical. Missing the playoffs 4 out of 5 years should get you fired in Arizona, let alone Montreal

Also...Petry is likely gone in a year or two so it's almost an entire top 4 D needed depending on what Mete ends up being.

Do we know Primeau will be a real #1 G? They're really hard to project and develop. Looks great but as of today I'm not betting my retirement on it. Prospects are full of potential which is great but until potential turns into results it's just another way of saying you haven't done poop yet.

For what it's worth I actually put more blame on Molson than MB as I'd imagine a lot of the decisions over the years involved Molson and he is the one who hasn't had the fortitude to move MB out...but saying I blame the owner more than the GM doesn't produce any more encouragement...rather a lot more discouragement
- Takemedrunkimhome

Petry should be traded next off season, don't resign him and dont let him walk... he needs to add a top pairing to Mete, Romanov, Juulsen and Brook, hoping maybe one suprises and takes one of those spots... and theres a few wildcards for the bottom spots as well... he wanted to grab a D at the draft for sure but he couldn't pass up Caufield and I'm glad he didn't

And about Primeau, is there any 18-21 year old goalies that are a sure thing? Point is, they have a good one, McNiven is still young also, I wouldn't say a G prospect is a need at all

I think I saw Provorov mentioned as well in these pages. I was tweeting with some ppl about that the other day. I would be 110% on board with OS'ing Provorov or Werenski.
- Brandon Smillie

Werenski isn't moving. They have tons of space and lost too much already. They can't risk losing their other 14 fans

Honestly, I think Bergevin has the full support of Molson. The way they have retooled the roster and prospects over the last couple seasons is trending the right way. They turned a decade + roster need into a upcoming strength (Center) and I think Molson def had a say in MB going hard at a young star player to add to the core.

I don't think Bergy is on the hot seat at all really with the moves and drafts he's had the last couple years. I know many want him gone as if that will magically bring the Habs the ability to fleece teams for great players and draft all studs all the time, but that's unrealistic. Also consider they would likely replace him from within anyways so it's going to be a similar mindset taking over anyways.

Just my thoughts on that, no inside info to justify it or anything
- Brandon Smillie

And just to add that it also depends on what he does over that time, I mean if he trades Poehling for James Neal tomorrow than my opinion changes completely

Petry should be traded next off season, don't resign him and dont let him walk... he needs to add a top pairing to Mete, Romanov, Juulsen and Brook, hoping maybe one suprises and takes one of those spots... and theres a few wildcards for the bottom spots as well... he wanted to grab a D at the draft for sure but he couldn't pass up Caufield and I'm glad he didn't

And about Primeau, is there any 18-21 year old goalies that are a sure thing? Point is, they have a good one, McNiven is still young also, I wouldn't say a G prospect is a need at all
- obie

That's kinda my point. He's a great prospect but goalies are a different breed as prospects and are hard to project let alone to suggest will be a #1 worthy of taking over for Price

And just to add that it also depends on what he does over that time, I mean if he trades Poehling for James Neal tomorrow than my opinion changes completely
- obie

agreed

I think I saw Provorov mentioned as well in these pages. I was tweeting with some ppl about that the other day. I would be 110% on board with OS'ing Provorov or Werenski.
- Brandon Smillie

Yup... or trading for one of them, Provorov would be more likely I think.... or Valimaki or Nurse and there's more! Not saying any of these are available but with what Bergy has done, he has the pieces to make it happen, just a matter of finding the right guy available at the right price... and it's ok with me if it doesn't happen this summer, at least he didn't handcuff himself in any wait so that it cant happen later

That's kinda my point. He's a great prospect but goalies are a different breed as prospects and are hard to project let alone to suggest will be a #1 worthy of taking over for Price
- Takemedrunkimhome

And my point was that no matter what prospect they add at that position it will be far from a guarantee, so what are you gonna do? Have faith in your own and watch his development

Yup... or trading for one of them, Provorov would be more likely I think.... or Valimaki or Nurse and there's more! Not saying any of these are available but with what Bergy has done, he has the pieces to make it happen, just a matter of finding the right guy available at the right price... and it's ok with me if it doesn't happen this summer, at least he didn't handcuff himself in any wait so that it cant happen later
- obie

I agree with almost all of this but...something still needs to happen before the season. What that is and what's available is impossible to say and mostly speculation...but something needs to happen.

But I'm glad he hasn't done anything painfully stupid and handcuffed himself like with Alzner

And my point was that no matter what prospect they add at that position it will be far from a guarantee, so what are you gonna do? Have faith in your own and watch his development
- obie

Agreed...but also why I don't want to waste Price. It's the most important position in the game and one that can push a mediocre to slightly above average team to great heights

I agree with almost all of this but...something still needs to happen before the season. What that is and what's available is impossible to say and mostly speculation...but something needs to happen.

But I'm glad he hasn't done anything painfully stupid and handcuffed himself like with Alzner
- Takemedrunkimhome

Even if it's a bad deal? Something just needs to happen? I cant agree with that... you see, trades are not hard, the ones where you come out ahead are the tricky ones! I'll stand pat over making a bad trade or signing!

Even if it's a bad deal? Something just needs to happen? I cant agree with that... you see, trades are not hard, the ones where you come out ahead are the tricky ones! I'll stand pat over making a bad trade or signing!
- obie

I'm not suggesting at any cost or making a bad deal. At the same point you have to be willing to give to get, especially if it's the right piece. Even assuming Laine or Provorov for example were available, the cost is going to be painful, they aren't assets that'll just be handed away

I think Marner is a good player but the best on the leaf's no way Brandon and I think you would regret giving away 12million and 4 #1.s in the long run. Plus I believe Marc Bergevin is looking for a trade more than an offer sheet again. Take it easy on the canes fans Bergevin offer sheeted their best player who is still on the rise and he signed the sheet those fans are mad they will say anything. I do agree with you in the sense that Bergevin is not done with the moves yet I expect a trade (probably one that will anger the habs fan base and actually turn out great.( ie: Domi for Galchenyuk.)

I'm not suggesting at any cost or making a bad deal. At the same point you have to be willing to give to get, especially if it's the right piece. Even assuming Laine or Provorov for example were available, the cost is going to be painful, they aren't assets that'll just be handed away
- Takemedrunkimhome

Sure but at this point in the game if the cost is Poehling, Romanov and a 1st, you wait... like I said, he's ahead of schedule, lots of cap space, draft picks to burn and a solid group of prospects, what's the rush? I think he put himself in a very good position going forward

You're talking about the Canes being bitter? Yet you sound like someone that just had their prom date bail on them.

To go big game hunting you need ammo not blanks
- sliprock65

zzzzzzzz

Sure but at this point in the game if the cost is Poehling, Romanov and a 1st, you wait... like I said, he's ahead of schedule, lots of cap space, draft picks to burn and a solid group of prospects, what's the rush? I think he put himself in a very good position going forward
- obie

Agreed on the costs again but the rest is spinning positive. The Habs are in a good position going forward, but a better position would include filling the obvious holes

Agreed on the costs again but the rest is spinning positive. The Habs are in a good position going forward, but a better position would include filling the obvious holes
- Takemedrunkimhome

He has added so much to the forward group, went from a bare cupboard to what could be a very well balanced, high scoring threat... does he need to add to the backend? Sure but not at all cost.... you want it done fast or you want it done right?

He has added so much to the forward group, went from a bare cupboard to what could be a very well balanced, high scoring threat... does he need to add to the backend? Sure but not at all cost.... you want it done fast or you want it done right?
- obie

While I understand your point, can't we get both?

Yes I'm happy about the prospects, but is it so much to ask to want to be happy about the NHL roster? Or at least to see a clear plan towards the current and long term NHL roster?

Pretty much everything said in this post is delusional...i can’t possibly get to everything but...

Actually...bergevin can’t give another offer sheet until the first one is resolved...you need YOUR picks in the upcoming drafts (ie you would need your team’s 2020 1st round)

Ahh when did MTL become really stacked with prospects? So that’s a fantasy.

Lastly, i sense your level of desperation...bergevin has a gun to his head to win now...they can’t even make the playoffs...they’re not even as good as the islanders and they SUCK!!!

I hope bergevin does offer sheet again...he’ll never get the player but if he wants to push other teams but the flyers deeper into cap hell...i’m all for it!!!

Bergevin is a joke .

Let’s go FLYERS
- bruceflyers

And then?

While I understand your point, can't we get both?

Yes I'm happy about the prospects, but is it so much to ask to want to be happy about the NHL roster? Or at least to see a clear plan towards the current and long term NHL roster?
- Takemedrunkimhome

To be honest I think we saw both in the last year when it comes to the forwards... just look at what he's added since the day he traded for Domi, pretty impressive I think

I care more about 2 years from now than right now... of course I always want to see this team succeed but I see the real potential in 2 years

Pretty much everything said in this post is delusional...i can’t possibly get to everything but...

Actually...bergevin can’t give another offer sheet until the first one is resolved...you need YOUR picks in the upcoming drafts (ie you would need your team’s 2020 1st round)

Ahh when did MTL become really stacked with prospects? So that’s a fantasy.

Lastly, i sense your level of desperation...bergevin has a gun to his head to win now...they can’t even make the playoffs...they’re not even as good as the islanders and they SUCK!!!

I hope bergevin does offer sheet again...he’ll never get the player but if he wants to push other teams but the flyers deeper into cap hell...i’m all for it!!!

Bergevin is a joke .

Let’s go FLYERS
- bruceflyers

Go educate yourself before writing some stupidities...