The dollar amount is for the player being bought out which in JJs case he doesn't meet it.

A Guddy buyout would work though (very very unlikely of course)

https://www.capfriendly.c...r/erik-gudbranson#results
- Feds91Stammer

Ok got it thanks.

The dollar amount is for the player being bought out which in JJs case he doesn't meet it.

A Guddy buyout would work though (very very unlikely of course)

https://www.capfriendly.c...r/erik-gudbranson#results
- Feds91Stammer

Dammit.....

GMJR should have paid JJ MORE......

My argument was always he needed to change something at 5v5. BTW, when he was with Malkin, they were only +3. Seems low for 2 ppg players. Of course they were -4 the previous year when JJ wasn't there to drag them down.

I think they'd have been better off with a good ES player, unfortunately they got Galchenyuk. But I also saw Phil declining, so that takes some of the sting away from me.
- Tojo.

Chucky has produced 40 ES points without Malkin, Sid, or McDavid. I think he can and will do it. Neal-lite 2.0 minus the suspensions

That's because Sidney Crosby is a top 3 two-way center in the NHL. I don't believe anyone is claiming that Kessel is anywhere near Sid in terms of 2-way hockey.
- j.boyd919

I think some people are still in denial that Phil's defense drags down his offensive impact at ES, and if he declines... I see plenty of people just use points of pts/60.

I'm also not saying they're better on ice with Galchenyuk than Phil they're not. 2nd line was a key area I wanted them to improve, but now it's worse.

Chucky has produced 40 ES points without Malkin, Sid, or McDavid. I think he can and will do it. Neal-lite 2.0 minus the suspensions
- WSCTeton17

I'm hoping you're right, but he only had 20 last year, and even if he does, what will be his PP numbers, so I'm doubtful.

I'm hoping you're right, but he only had 20 last year, and even if he does, what will be his PP numbers, so I'm doubtful.
- Tojo.

I posted an article a few days ago and I forget who, but someone posted it as well. It really put that playing with Sid and Geno stuff into perspective. I wouldn't expect a huge bump in Galch's numbers, but I could see 50 points.

I posted an article a few days ago and I forget who, but someone posted it as well. It really put that playing with Sid and Geno stuff into perspective. I wouldn't expect a huge bump in Galch's numbers, but I could see 50 points.
- Rinosaur

Twas I good sir.

Twas I good sir.
- j.boyd919

Ah yes.

McCann - Crosby - Guentzel
Kahun - Malkin - Galchenyuk
Simon - Bjugstad - Hörnqvist
Tanev - Blueger - Rust

Aston-Reese (I don’t know how much he expects to get but I wouldn’t go above $1-1.2M)

I like our lines. 3rd and 4th look pretty good defensively.

It makes sense to sign Sully, they chose and have to move to support that choice.

After closer inspection to it all and a few days to digest, I've found i've flip flopped on my earlier opinions.

Galchenyuk will be the x factor in most of this year's movements and signings for the Pens. I still think that particular deal stunk on paper, but Arizona was willing to deal, and Phil is happy. I'll root for him and AZ, my wife grew up in AZ. I'm a huge Rick Tocchet fan as well. It's possible that Galch can play up and over his level, he's done it before. The guy is definitely talented! It will be interesting to see him with cup experienced, elite talent as well. He can slot C/LW according to yahoo qualifications ( fairly certain it means he logged enough OIT at both positions to get the qualification is all really in yahoo fantasy).

Galchenyuk common stats: https://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/players/5683/
Advanced: https://www.hockey-refere.../players/g/galchal01.html
Highlights: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mC7MBPV6Oc

Olli for Kahun is a great trade, simply put. Kahun is a speed demon and slots instantly playing with Cup caliber talent. Sheary pt 2, without all the Frodo Baggins falling and more Crosby like attributes. He's strong on his feet, fast and skates well and isn't afraid of the puck or high danger puck areas. His stick skills are pretty deadly as well. He can slot anywhere up front, and likes the puck. Win here for sure. We didn't lose anything in Olli really that isn't present now on the back end and gained a lot in Kahun. He stays healthy, I think he'll impress!
C/LW/RW rating in yahoo.

Kahuns common stats: https://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/players/7872/
Advanced: https://www.hockey-refere...undo01-advanced-5on5.html
Highlights: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ki3IUBpNprM

The Tanev signing is puzzling at first glance maybe, but his value is there. He's durable enough for how hard he plays, and a lot of what the Pens have been missing since the loveable Bill Guerin retired.
Blue collar, speedy, used to long winters and fireplaces, long walks on Lake Erie shore... "sings" too = Fan favorite. Rumor has it, half the Big Haired Yinz-bunnies in the Big Haired Yinz-Bunnies fan club already have his lifesized Fathead on the wall. I think he'll be a welcome addition here as well, regardless of the subraction of Phil's stats. I think the value lost in Phil talents, is gained here in different areas more so than with Galchenyuk. Tanev can slot LW/RW based on yahoos qualifications last year as well.

Common Stats: https://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/players/7083/
Advanced: https://www.hockey-refere...t/tanevbr01-advanced.html
Highlights: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GITWHyYmTM4

Overall, now, I believe the team got better in ways we weren't, but maybe got weaker in areas that ownership maybe thought they could afford and probably make up for by adding a few parts that equaled PK output, gain speed, puck aggressiveness, get younger, and "grit". #hockeyplay #goodstick

One must also still keep in mind:
Murray's Dad dying last January was still fresh. Malkin's son is 3 now. Sully's dad died last September.

New season, and I'm excited and hopeful for it!! I think these Pens will have a hungrier, recharged identity for sure.

McCann - Crosby - Guentzel
Kahun - Malkin - Galchenyuk
Simon - Bjugstad - Hörnqvist
Tanev - Blueger - Rust

Aston-Reese (I don’t know how much he expects to get but I wouldn’t go above $1-1.2M)

I like our lines. 3rd and 4th look pretty good defensively.
- Barnaby36

Kahun - Crosby - Guentzel
Tanev - Malkin - Galchenyuk
Simon - Bjugstad - Hörnqvist
McCann - Blueger - Rust

A little more top heavy, but makes two really hard to play against 3/4 lines as well as your formula. Either way, that's a much tougher team with experience, speed, youth and scoring throughout.

Twas I good sir.
- j.boyd919

But did the article take into account changing your most common linemate from a 4th liner to one of the best centers in the game? Not only that but I think he’ll see a bump in TOI. He’s moving from a center who averages like 24 points a season to one who averages like 95. It’s not the same as going from Getzlaf and Perry or Mike Fisher (54 point pace) and David Legwand (51 points)

Kahun - Crosby - Guentzel
Tanev - Malkin - Galchenyuk
Simon - Bjugstad - Hörnqvist
McCann - Blueger - Rust

A little more top heavy, but makes two really hard to play against 3/4 lines as well as your formula. Either way, that's a much tougher team with experience, speed, youth and scoring throughout.

I'm also betting
- Little Katarina

I haven’t seen a ton of Tanev but I’ve seen a bit of him and I don’t want him in our top 6. I’m confident he’ll be a solid player for us but Chucky likes to play left and Rust likes to play right. I think Sullivan will enjoy that line. I think Rust, McCann, Kahun, and ZAR get looks on that RW ahead of Tanev anywhere with Malkin

Kahun - Crosby - Guentzel
Tanev - Malkin - Galchenyuk
Simon - Bjugstad - Hörnqvist
McCann - Blueger - Rust

A little more top heavy, but makes two really hard to play against 3/4 lines as well as your formula. Either way, that's a much tougher team with experience, speed, youth and scoring throughout.

I'm also betting
- Little Katarina

How is that more top heavy? You bumped a 1st ling winger from last season to the 4th line... and pushed a career 3rd/4th liner onto the 2nd line.

How is that more top heavy? You bumped a 1st ling winger from last season to the 4th line... and pushed a career 3rd/4th liner onto the 2nd line.
- Guile

Malkin likes Tanev types. Neal comes to mind. Dude draws penalties well as well, according to Rossi. Fast and can possess. Why wouldn't he get a look with Geno?

Regardless of what anyone here thinks or wants, they're all gonna get looks with each other. I'll dig a bit and see where and with whom Tanev slotted with all year in Winnepeg. His underlying stats suggest he's waiting for a breakout opportunity.

Malkin likes Tanev types. Neal comes to mind. Dude draws penalties well as well, according to Rossi. Fast and can possess. Why wouldn't he get a look with Geno?

Regardless of what anyone here thinks or wants, they're all gonna get looks with each other. I'll dig a bit and see where and with whom Tanev slotted with all year in Winnepeg. His underlying stats suggest he's waiting for a breakout opportunity.
- Little Katarina

He’s already seen some time with Little and Scheifle. He draws penalties because he’s running around hitting the opposition which is the same reason why he doesn’t drive play. Tanev is not James Neal. Neal was an elite shooter, like Galchenyuk is now. Tanev really isn’t that capable of a shooter. It’s not impossible but I would be surprised if he ends up in our top 6.. because he’s not that good

If someone were trying to make the argument that Tanev can score with elite talent I think Burrows would be the comparable they would want to use. It’s possible he turns into Burrows, but I doubt it

Is ZAR worth 1.2m given he’s going to arbitration? Who else would be a suitable replacement on the market. Just curious.

Malkin likes Tanev types. Neal comes to mind. Dude draws penalties well as well, according to Rossi. Fast and can possess. Why wouldn't he get a look with Geno?

Regardless of what anyone here thinks or wants, they're all gonna get looks with each other. I'll dig a bit and see where and with whom Tanev slotted with all year in Winnepeg. His underlying stats suggest he's waiting for a breakout opportunity.
- Little Katarina

Tanev and Neal are complete opposite players but okay.

Malkin likes Tanev types. Neal comes to mind. Dude draws penalties well as well, according to Rossi. Fast and can possess. Why wouldn't he get a look with Geno?

Regardless of what anyone here thinks or wants, they're all gonna get looks with each other. I'll dig a bit and see where and with whom Tanev slotted with all year in Winnepeg. His underlying stats suggest he's waiting for a breakout opportunity.
- Little Katarina

You legit didn't answer the question... and have a massive misunderstanding of what Tanev and or Neal is as a player.

Neal was the one GETTING penalities, not drawing them. Dude was a cheap shot artist, and not fast.

Malkin likes Tanev types. Neal comes to mind. Dude draws penalties well as well, according to Rossi. Fast and can possess. Why wouldn't he get a look with Geno?

Regardless of what anyone here thinks or wants, they're all gonna get looks with each other. I'll dig a bit and see where and with whom Tanev slotted with all year in Winnepeg. His underlying stats suggest he's waiting for a breakout opportunity.
- Little Katarina

I don't think Neal and Tanev are much alike at all...but Tanev will most definitely get a look with Geno at some point because Sullivan has a big line blender he tosses his players into quite frequently.

Tanev and Neal are complete opposite players but okay.
- j.boyd919

I think GMJR created a HB account.

MoJo to Buffalo 4.5 for 2 years. Wouldn’t surprise me if he gets a look as 2C unless they eventually get a Granlund/Turris in there. I think that would be a savvy Nashville move if they could pull that off and bring in Dzingel

Is ZAR worth 1.2m given he’s going to arbitration? Who else would be a suitable replacement on the market. Just curious.
- pghbirdman

Without ZAR, you still have a bottom 6 of Rust, Hornqvist, Bjugstad, Blueger, Tanev, and Simon. Really no need to sign any more 4th line players, especially when you have a few AHL kids who should get some NHL time at some point this season. There’s also a TON of fringe nhl players left in the market that could be signed at 2-way contracts, which I expect JR to sign a couple

Without ZAR, you still have a bottom 6 of Rust, Hornqvist, Bjugstad, Blueger, Tanev, and Simon. Really no need to sign any more 4th line players, especially when you have a few AHL kids who should get some NHL time at some point this season. There’s also a TON of fringe nhl players left in the market that could be signed at 2-way contracts, which I expect JR to sign a couple
- drummer829

ZAR seems to only be good with Malkin... so if they want to keep him, they 'need' to give him time with Malkin imo.

But, they aren't doing that so to me he is a sign and trade at this point.